VideoSift 2nd Presidential Debate Liveblog Party
I've taken an early lunch (late morning tea) and I'm settled in to my local wi-fi enabled cafe with a nice flat white. Getting read for the historic debate.
My predictions:
The RNC will have smuggled a mole into the "undecided voters" asking questions
John won't mention the word "Maverick" once because it has become such a joke. Expect Obama to use it though.
I'll update later with the best streaming links to the debate. I found the New York Times to have the best infographic-unadorned stream last time.
MSNBC's feed is up:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/
NYTimes feed is my favorite:
http://www.nytimes.com/
My predictions:
The RNC will have smuggled a mole into the "undecided voters" asking questions
John won't mention the word "Maverick" once because it has become such a joke. Expect Obama to use it though.
I'll update later with the best streaming links to the debate. I found the New York Times to have the best infographic-unadorned stream last time.
MSNBC's feed is up:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/
NYTimes feed is my favorite:
http://www.nytimes.com/
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Way to camp out for the first comment K0mmie.
K0MMIEIt was a coincidence I swear! Could have been worse, I could have written FIRST! OK seriously... onto the debate... I'm excited.
Grab your bingo card:
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Wow, MSNBC's feed is up, and they are just kind of talking pre-broadcast. Not meant for consumption I don't think, but interesting.
NordlichReiterhere we go
K0MMIETom Brokaw has a soothing voice... he could talk me out of my panties.
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Brokaw sounds like he is suffering from acid reflux.
NordlichReiterBarack.. no more passive voice. come on man.
blankfistYay, we're all compulsory stockholders!
blankfistThese are some terrible economic plans. "We need to do stuff"
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They walk so close to the audience it looks like they are going to sit on their laps.
NordlichReiterbuy up the bad house loans... that does not sound good.
K0MMIEJohn McCain wants to be a Real Estate agent for old people.
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"Not you Tom!" WTF?
NordlichReiterMccain is nervous.. I car hear him breathing, its raspy like his heart is kicking fast
K0MMIEWhy not Tom?! WHATS WRONG WITH TOM!?
blankfist>> ^NordlichReiter:
buy up the bad house loans... that does not sound good.
It's not. The propping up of the housing market is partly what got us into this mess. Why are we wanting to do more of the same?!
marinarai think mccain is more like a politician
blankfistIf I wanted to hear all of this I would've visited obama.com and mccain.com.
K0MMIEDo you think McCain is having trouble paying mortgages on one of his 7 houses?
davidraine"Gentlemen, this is a *debate*. Here there are *rules*."
blankfist"Main street"
DRINK!
K0MMIEWait... it's not a Bailout, it's a rescue? There is a difference?
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Oliver Clarke, McCain supporter.
NordlichReiterwhat the fuck... suspended campaign
NordlichReiterhe keeps saying warshington
K0MMIEDoes McCain have a fucking gap in his teeth? I keep hearing a whistling sound when he speaks!
marinaraobama trying to float on by, hmmmm
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I think the gain is turned up a bit high on the mics.
NordlichReiter" I have to correct a little bit of mccains history... not surprisingly" hahahaha
blankfist>> ^K0MMIE:
Does McCain have a fucking gap in his teeth? I keep hearing a whistling sound when he speaks!
♫ Warshington ♪
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Bernanke wasn't the FED chairman 2 years ago was he?
NordlichReiterhe needs to just mention keating 5
davidraineJust a side note -- Watching this on CNN is a trip. "Oooh, that comment didn't play well with 25 people we don't know!"
davidraine>> ^dag:
Bernanke wasn't the FED chairman 2 years ago was he?
He was, but just barely. Wikipedia puts him at assuming office on 2/1/2006.
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NyTimes and MSNBC feeds are failing for me, switching to CNN.
grinterwtf? "townhall". There are like 30 people in that room. How is that a town hall!
blankfistMcCain wants to be racist. Look at him. Closet racist.
gorillamanMSNBC dropped a couple of times for me, but it seems alright now.
K0MMIE"Me and my buddies wrote a letter, Senator Obama's name was not on that letter"... and the sky is blue and water is wet.
blankfist"I can read good"
T-manMcCain is a housing market. He should just buy a few more houses and we'll all be fine.
NordlichReiterBoom that ladies question was powerful
VOTE INDEPENDENT
K0MMIEVoting Independent makes it easier for the greater of 2 evils to be elected. Sad but true.
NordlichReiterwarshington! DRINK!
blankfist>> ^K0MMIE:
Voting Independent makes it easier for the greater of 2 evils to be elected. Sad but true.
Fear-monger.
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Good answer by Obama to the cynic.
T-man>> ^dag:
NyTimes and MSNBC feeds are failing for me, switching to CNN.
You need to get a Slingbox.
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Does McCain have a dowager's hump? He's turning into Monty Burns.
K0MMIE>> ^blankfist:
>> ^K0MMIE:
Voting Independent makes it easier for the greater of 2 evils to be elected. Sad but true.
Fear-monger.
Fear Monger? Eat my poop.
NordlichReitermccain is a marionette
K0MMIEPork Barrel! So close to Bingo! SAY MAVERICK!
NordlichReiterim not your friend mccain so get off my lap
blankfistpoop-monger.
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Oh god back to the pork-barrel ear marks. Projector for a planetarium sounds like a good earmark to me.
eric3579Overhead projectors are expensive
K0MMIE>> ^blankfist:
poop-monger.
Touche, I submit.
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McCain cannot remember a list with 3 items.
davidraine>> ^dag:
Oh god back to the pork-barrel ear marks. Projector for a planetarium sounds like a good earmark to me.
Adler Planetarium needs the help. I remember taking a field trip there in 3rd grade and being bored out of my mind, and I like science!
blankfist>> ^dag:
Oh god back to the pork-barrel ear marks. Projector for a planetarium sounds like a good earmark to me.
Neocons always bring up things like that as "big spending", but they never complain about the trillions their party spends on terrible foreign quagmires.
blankfistThere we are... Venezuela, Russia and Iran! Next will be Afghanistan and Pakistan. Boo.
K0MMIEOBAMA INVOKED JFK AND THE MOON. Nail in the coffin?
NordlichReitergood question from internet there
Bullshit, he took on Boeing and that was it.
Substituted it for Lockheed.
blankfist"earmarks"
DRINK!
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God McCain's whistle is almost unbearable. He sounds like the Beaver from Winnie-the-Pooh.
K0MMIEHe just said Earmarks 3 times in 20 seconds... my liver can't take this.
NordlichReiteryou mean rabbit... but thats beside the point
blankfistObama just whistled?! Anyone hear that? God, I must be five years old because that was exciting!
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>> ^NordlichReiter:
you mean rabbit... but thats beside the point
Actually no, I think it was a gopher - but the same voice that did the beaver in The Lady & the Tramp.
my15minutesyou're so mavericky, you created another chat page!
K0MMIEThat last one is for squares, this is the happenin' room.
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What's the point of even having an audience in a debate like this? It's like Madame Tussaud's out there.
grinterI know I got drunk
eric3579Safe way to store nuclear energy? Did he mean nuclear waste?
T-manA lotta drunks.
K0MMIE>> ^dag:
What's the point of even having an audience in a debate like this? It's like Madame Tussaud's out there.
They agreed to be silent... I'd rather see a Pro-Wrestling crowd that cheers and throws chairs in the ring.
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>> ^my15minutes:
you're so mavericky, you created another chat page!
That was the pre-party announcement thread. Sorry I should have put a link in there.
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"Senator Obama, I served with Herbert Hoover, and you're just like him"
blankfistObama looks like he's falling in love with McCain. Just staring at him from afar with his come hither eyes.
gorillamanBINGO!
my15minuteslol @ the herbert hoover attempt there
eric3579Nailing jello to the wall.
grinter(700,000,000,000)/(700,000 lost jobs) = ?
K0MMIEBREAK THE RULES OBAMA! DO IT! TALK ALL YOU WANT!
T-manI've got some newsy news for you, newsboy - the news is bad news.
blankfistMcCain/Obama tickle fight!
NordlichReiterFuck that he should let Obama attack mccain back.
But now obama should let it go.
davidraineNow Brokaw's bending the rules! What a maverick!
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Nice segue back to the tax plan, yay!
marinara>> ^K0MMIE:
BREAK THE RULES OBAMA! DO IT! TALK ALL YOU WANT!
getting pushed around by brokaw isn't presidential
K0MMIEOh McCain will "answer" the question... old man BURN!
youdiejoe"I'll answer your question, Tom"
Nice ass kissing McCain...
K0MMIEHe invoked Regan! OMG OMG! Say Pre-Condition for my Bingo!
grinterI'll bet McCain isn't "too popular" at A Lot of parties.
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Ooh, "a commission" I hope Obama zings him on that.
T-manHe's getting excited. He didn't accidentally take a Viagra before it started, did he?
youdiejoeGreen = Nuclear! RNC ftw!
K0MMIE"Obama wants Nuclear power to be safe or something like that..." ORLY? Has McCain ever heard of Chernobyl
T-manEnvironment!?! What do I care. I'll be dead when it goes to crap!
davidraine>> ^T-man:
He's getting excited. He didn't accidentally take a Viagra before it started, did he?
*I'm* not going to check his pants.
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"Obama says nuclur power has to be safe for disposable or somethin' like that"
classic.
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>> ^K0MMIE:
"Obama wants Nuclear power to be safe or something like that..." ORLY? Yeah don't take your time on that one dickhead.
Jinx.
T-manUh oh. He meant internet.
davidraineYou're talking ARPAnet there, not the computer itself...
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Oh zinggg on the "voted 23 times against alternative fuels".
T-manHeh heh! He talks a lot about drilling! heh heh!
K0MMIEJINXED! Doh!
K0MMIETOM BROKAW SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT THE TRAFFIC LIGHTS ON THE FLOOR!
K0MMIE"You know who voted for it? You might not guess... him! Who was against it? Me!"
Dude is like the creepy ol' uncle who would steal your nose.
T-manI was hoping he would say "festooned"
NordlichReiterMCCAIN I AM NOT A SMALL CHILD DO NOT TALK TO ME LIKE I AM.
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I like goodies.
my15minutesthanks, mr shoutypants.
you're the one who was just bitching about them going over time?....
eric3579"Its not got its have." Thats what my mom use to tell me.
T-manNext time - fewer questions and longer answers. Problem solved.
davidraine>> ^T-man:
Next time - fewer questions and longer answers. Problem solved.
A longer time-slot would be nice, maybe.
grinterit is really starting to seem like McCain needs a nap.
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McCain doesn't mention anything about people with pre-existing conditions. What are those people supposed to do?
K0MMIEHair Transplants? Really? Is that the best you got?
youdiejoeHair transplant....that ship has long sailed, returned and then been decommissioned
davidraine>> ^dag:
McCain doesn't mention anything about people with pre-existing conditions. What are those people supposed to do?
"No, Mr. Bond. I expect you to die!"
T-man>> ^dag:
McCain doesn't mention anything about people with pre-existing conditions. What are those people supposed to do?
Die
T-manJinx back at ya.
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Camera keeps catching the back of Obama's head.
theaceofclubzIt seems like O is debating against McCain and Brokaw
NordlichReiterI like his health care thing
K0MMIE>> ^dag:
Camera keeps catching the back of Obama's head.
LOL I just noticed that!
davidraineDamn, I owe T-man a coke.
HaricotVertWhy does John McCain keep making utterly unfunny quips?
davidraine"Tom, can I just add one last zinger?"
K0MMIE"Did we hear the size of the fine?" WTF is this "Gotcha" debating? He's an immature ol' frat boy.
T-man>> ^DavidRaine:
Damn, I owe T-man a coke.
Aren't we even?
dystopianfuturetodayThe time limits are stupid.
NordlichReiterScrew mccain's foreign policy screw the current us foreign policy
K0MMIEUh Oh, we're going over on time!
T-man>> ^HaricotVert:
Why does John McCain keep making utterly unfunny quips?
Because he has no sense of humor.
youdiejoeCRIPES! Peace makers?!?! really?!?! McCain...dude, you are utterly clueless.
davidraine>> ^T-man:
>> ^DavidRaine:
Damn, I owe T-man a coke.
Aren't we even?
Oh hey, you're right. Good call.
HaricotVertHow come McCain doesn't berate Georgia for aggression against South Ossetia? OH THAT'S RIGHT, THEY ARE OUR ALLY.
Fuckin' moron.
T-manBuyah!
BillOreillyObama Bin Laden keeps stuttering his way past his alloted time, promising that our government will solve all our problems. If only Hillary was the candidate...
NordlichReitero great here come the doctrines
K0MMIE>> ^BillOreilly:
Obama Bin Laden keeps stuttering his way past his alloted time, promising that our government will solve all our problems. If only Hillary was the candidate...
Awww come on, I expect a better burn from you!
T-manI think BillO's avatar winked at me!
Starbursts!!!
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Guys, work calls enjoy the rest of the debate!
NordlichReiterlata
davidraineOnce again, I am regretting not having a stash of Nerf darts to throw at the television.
K0MMIEHe just said Regan was his hero! WTF? Not Michael Jordan?
HaricotVertAmerica lost the war on terror. Back when our basic freedoms were violated and removed by the Patriot Act, warrantless wiretapping, suspension of habeas corpus... we lost the war right then.
There is no way to "win" in Iraq anymore.
T-manI knew Teddy Roosevelt. Teddy Roosevelt was a friend of mine. Senator, you're no Teddy Roosevelt.
davidraineGet the support of the people? I thought the winning strategy in Iraq was THE SURGE!
dystopianfuturetodayI'd love to see a real debate - a genuine back and forth between the two candidates without a moderator. This is the equivalent of a Tiger Beat Q&A feature.
KreegathThis is pathetic. They're not debating each other, they're spouting talking points and reciting attack ads. They're saying the same things they said in the last "debate".
How about they actually talk to each other? You know, like in a debate? There's no reason to stay up any longer to watch this rerun, we've seen it before.
my15minutesthey shoulda' both said simply "No." to the evil empire thing, imho.
HaricotVertHey, let's play a guessing game. Let's guess the name of another world superpower that has dangerous nationalistic tendencies!
davidraine>> ^my15minutes:
they shoulda' both said simply "No." to the evil empire thing, imho.
Yes or no questions are the politician's kryptonite.
T-manMcCain's a bit of a close talker.
my15minutes>> ^DavidRaine:
>> ^my15minutes:
they shoulda' both said simply "No." to the evil empire thing, imho.
> Yes or no questions are the politician's kryptonite.
that's why brokaw asked it that way.
and exactly why they shoulda' answered it directly.
dystopianfuturetodaySome say McCain masturbates to fantasies of dismembered Iranian children.
my15minutes^ * dark
and a little * wtf
davidraineIf U.S. Americans had more maps, maybe we'd know where these unknown countries were.
T-manIf he doesn't know where it is on the map he can just ask Palin.
gorillamanCountries Americans couldn't find on the map? There's a lot to choose from.
T-manOverall. Not a game changer which means McCain loses.
davidraine>> ^T-man:
Overall. Not a game changer which means McCain loses.
Agreed. That's all folks -- See you at the third debate.
dystopianfuturetodaySorry for the dark comment, it's just that McCain has such an appetite for destruction in Iran. He is a sick fuck. He learned all the wrong lessons from his POW days.
mauz15Senator McCain, I am not your 'friend'
my15minutes^dft - which is why i thought that obama's reminder of the 'bomb bomb iran' quote was the proper response, when mccain was trying to shovel that shit about "walking softly" and not "telegraphing" our response.
mauz15>> ^my15minutes:
^ which is why i thought that obama's reminder of the 'bomb bomb iran' quote was the proper response, when mccain was trying to shovel that shit about "walking softly" and not "telegraphing" our response.
Dont forget the Jello on the wall thing...
my15minutes^ which might have been a decent comeback, if he were willing to be less vague than obama. but they both failed that test, i thought.
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Thanks everyone, really enjoyed this. We'll do it again for the next one. *unsticky
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NetRunnerThis apparently wasn't much of a discussion.
McCain's best moment was when he touched the petty officer's shoulder near the end and said "I learned everything I know from Petty Officers..."
His worst moment was referring to Obama as "that one" in reference to the energy vote.
Obama's worst moment? Hard for me to gauge, but I was worried when on a question about leaving Afghanistan he started with "We have to have the Iraqi government step up..."
His best? Either his very positive closing statement (I'm a sucker for those), or his "What I don't understand about foreign policy is why we invaded Iraq..."
Before the first debate, I said I'm hoping this is like 1980. People want to vote Obama, but they aren't comfortable with him. Seeing how polls have swung massively in Obama's direction since that 1st debate, I think anytime Obama comes off looking Presidential (and he did here), he wins.
So, Obama won, because he stayed unruffled by McCain's lies, attacks, and silliness, and was inspirational and competent.
Blankfist, the drinking phrases for the last debate will be: "I know how to <insert topic here>" for McCain, and "What we need to do is <insert some action here>" for Obama.
RedSkyhttp://www.videosift.com/video/Second-Presidential-Debate-October-7th-08-ObamaMcCain
Posted it up!
Most of it anyway, I'll replace it with a full one when I find it.
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