Ant will hate it. And you, for suggesting it. But I consider myself to to use the downvote more often than not on crap, rather than just letting everyone else "not vote" on it. But this wouldn't bother me a bit. A day sounds fine to me. Something like this will really help keep this a *quality place.

[EDIT] Hmmm. I thought I had one... Now who the hell did I give that last one to?. Oh well. I owe you one in about 8 hours.

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I think it's basically a good idea, but I don't think the period should be as long as 30 minutes. I think once every 2 minutes should be good enough. If you make it longer than that then you'll really cramp ant's style. I know that sounds like a joke, but it's not. It would be easy for ant to see 2 videos in a row that he didn't like, and I don't think he should be punished because of the abuse of others. I know some people here would like that, but ant always votes honestly so he shouldn't have to changing his voting behavior.

Two minutes between downvotes should be good enough.

How about we stop trying to dream up new ways to control what people do with their votes, and just let everyone vote the way they want. Downvote everything that doesn't appeal to you like Ant?...fine. Never use the downvote because you think it makes you a better person?...fine. Downvote everything I have ever sifted because you don't like my holier then thou attitude in this post?....well that's where I draw the line. Just kidding. It's fine as well.

>> ^TheSofaKing:
How about we stop trying to dream up new ways to control what people do with their votes, and just let everyone vote the way they want.


It wouldn´t control what you vote for at all!

And I don´t think the ability to vote for 10 clips a second is an argument in this case.

How about making the timelimit for all below diamond?
That way ant can still skip through the meadows of downvote as he pleases...

I think it's better to let these people abuse the downvote as much as they like so we can catch them out and ban them. Community quality control.

Is ant going to make his position known?

gorillaman,sofaking=great suggestions

All else is masturbatory whining-sift talk clutter
"Vote as thou wilt, shall be the whole of the law."

I don't care for wait period between downvotes. It seems needlessly restrictive.

I don't think this is a good idea. If we just prevent this one method of abuse they'll just try to find some other way to get their bitter revenge and maybe in a way that no one will easily detect.

By allowing it to happen, we can discover the abuse easily without any doubt of their intentions and then react accordingly.

Haven´t thought about it that way, good point!

Let´s hope they all take the bait!

we could start with a test run, MATTTATTACK!!!

If someone thinks he is singled out... maybe an option to post the video as anonymous. If the poster's name is not shown on the post, you can't possibly retaliate against someone.

IMHO this is a MAJOR and COMPLEX feature but I don't want people to feel like they are being attacked. We all benefit watching the best videos without having to watch the lousy or shocking ones.

Obviously some people take down-votes as an emotional assault, but should I write an apology in the comments each time I down-vote a video?

It all resides in the ego-abuse is not the same as down-voting....if you think so, abuse the priv-and continue to recoil from the shit you think it best to.....

A chill-out feature like, "whoa cow-boy, wait a minute" could significantly curtail abuse.

No need to be draconian and impose 30 minute time-outs. Just something simple would help.

Let's say you queued up 3 videos, watched them all, THEN (down)voted. Weird habit, but if that's your style, the 1-minute limit wouldn't be too extreme, and you wouldn't be needlessly stifled from expressing your opinion.

And the most damage someone could do if they went mental with the downvotes would be 100 downs after 100 minutes.

There's almost a downside to it: since they're doing it over an extended period of time, if it is malicious, it'll be much more insidious and harder to spot than, dare I name it as such, a "downvote of passion".

>> ^lucky760:
I don't think this is a good idea. If we just prevent this one method of abuse they'll just try to find some other way to get their bitter revenge and maybe in a way that no one will easily detect.
By allowing it to happen, we can discover the abuse easily without any doubt of their intentions and then react accordingly.


Hmm, actually that's exactly the point I was making - good to read the whole first, eh?

The counter-argument in favour which I didn't make was that if you slow someone down, they'll in theory "cool off" and think twice. Hmm.

let's just make out with the offenders' mothers...

why can't I be serious for one second?

Maybe it's because my uncle molested me...

...maybe it's because I molested my uncle.

I'll let you decide.

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We would rather not enforce rules through software - it's more fun to use social pressure.

Ok, I see the point and it makes sense.

I just thought it might lead to a few less bodies lying around if we cool the itchy trigger fingers. After all something similar is done when downvoting a comment.

phew.. I thought my downvote sprees were going to come to an end.

I would downvote Raytrace a lot more often if i wasn't mesmerized by the Asian babe avatar...

>> ^TheSofaKing:
How about we stop trying to dream up new ways to control what people do with their votes, and just let everyone vote the way they want. Downvote everything that doesn't appeal to you like Ant?...fine. Never use the downvote because you think it makes you a better person?...fine. Downvote everything I have ever sifted because you don't like my holier then thou attitude in this post?....well that's where I draw the line. Just kidding. It's fine as well.


Nice to see someone is thinking. Once you start interfering with votes you create something that is so much worse than the problem its supposed to fix. Wikipedia being the perfect example.

Downvote, schmownvote. I'll do what ant did in the day, downvote for any reason I see fit. It's my own downvote and my decision.

Of course downvoting on any reason beyond the video itself is bollocks, but if anything, ANYTHING in the video is in any way negative to me, I'll withhold the right to downvote. If your arbitraty rules withhold me from rightly downoting a video, the community is going to die.

Dag, social pressure is fine, but organised, systematic restrictions are bad. Amen, brother.

Peroxide: LOL!

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