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Phew! Good thing that God is alive, visible and tangible today, or else the world would sure be a mess...

*looks up from human corpse JJ is devouring*

WHAT?!?! you mean god didn't dissapear?!?!
SHIT!

Ohhh i get it now! Christians have no inherent ethics or morality, they only behave because of the fear of hell.

Anything outside the commandments is ok to be cold blooded and ruthless.

That explains right-wing conservatives then.

Boy all that talk of wanton killing, rampage and cannibalism got me all worked up...

I sure wish god would disappear!

Wow. The delusion is strong in this one. It defies words how absolutely pathetic and propagandist this is.

I love the before / after shots..

You guys know that this guy is being facetious, right? Or did I just get double-whooshed?

I made it exactly 33 seconds into this... had to turn it off at the whole "we christians can feel god's presence within us..."

Edit: I upvoted for absolute idiocy... is that wrong?

>> ^direpickle:
You guys know that this guy is being facetious, right? Or did I just get double-whooshed?


Wow, you know, I was convinced from the beginning it was real and just re-watched the whole thing and I think you may be right...

That's the problem, though. I'm sure there are some whacko's who voted for Palin that think this is 100% legit...

Only if you upvoted for the idiocy without realizing it's satire. Now if you upvoted for the sheer idiocy because it's poorly done, too over the top satire, and incredibly drawn out arguments then, maybe.

If people could worship atheism, they would.

Magic,Jesus, Demons and Angels are real. Because I believe it to be so.
I also believe that center of the Earth is filled with molten chocolate.


He who hears voices is declared schizophrenic and institutionalized.
He who hears the voices of God and Jesus, is blessed.

Imagine it... airplanes would crash randomly sometimes because God wasn't there to hold their wings up!

>> ^honkeytonk73:
He who hears voices is declared schizophrenic and institutionalized.
He who hears the voices of God and Jesus, is blessed.


This is why I call all 9 of my inner voices either God or Jesus. Keeps the man off my back.

>> ^dirtythirtyix:
>> ^honkeytonk73:
He who hears voices is declared schizophrenic and institutionalized.
He who hears the voices of God and Jesus, is blessed.

This is why I call all 9 of my inner voices either God or Jesus. Keeps the man off my back.


Same.

i'm a devout catholic. i believe in god and his son jesus. i believe that everything that happens, good or bad, is, to quote the joker, "all part of the plan." i dont presume to know that plan, but i believe there is one.

and yet i upvoted. why? because it's funny. too many times, atheists (and i'm not saying all atheists. i'm not bigoted.) expect us to respect them while at the same time, insulting our religion. (yes i realize that catholics do this too, but not all of us. thats the same problem) none of them seem to realize that religion is just one of someone's defining characteristics. god i'm sick of the God/no God debate. why can't people believe what they want?

>> ^Dignant_Pink:
god i'm sick of the God/no God debate. why can't people believe what they want?


Because of things like this maybe?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/oct/09/aids

Exchanges of this kind will always be there, why? simple. Because not one person has the same experiences, experiences that help form our perception, and ideas of reality. After a certain amount of experience and time, each person develops a core system of worldviews and the huge amount of variation of worldviews makes friction among beliefs guaranteed to occur.

This video is just a bunch of generalizations put together, but they are not generalizations based on nothing. Countless times I have heard religious people describe atheists as someone lacking any sense of morality, etc. So it is not only 'atheists disrespecting religions' the miseducation of some religious people also contributes to people making these videos.

There are a lot of misconceptions from both sides. Dogma is universal.

I considered myself to be an a-political agnostic before the religious right started pushing creationism in schools again. That issue, as well as a few smaller issues like displaying the Ten Commandments in courthouses, pushed me to take a harder look at my stance, and read a few more books about science and atheism.

So I guess one could say that if it weren't for outspoken religious nutjobs, I would never have become an outspoken atheist.

By the way, most atheists aren't claiming that there is no God, just that religions created by humans are all absurd.

sarcastic smart ass = down vote (even if he has a point)

I believe that Tay-Sachs disease, which causes immense pain and agony by clogging nerve tissue with lipids until the five-year-old child finally dies, is part of the plan. Especially since God gives it mainly to his Chosen People.

I also believe the Plan is FUNDAMENTALLY FUCKED UP.

I believe.

See, I don't mind that you believe. Humans believe many things. What I don't understand is how they can believe that everything is part of a divine plan. And when something doesn't make sense, they shrug it off and say, "Well, I don't get it, but God's higher than I am, so I guess he has some reason."

That is devolved thinking, capable only in the mind of unenlightened beings. No rational and reasonable person could ever think that something as horrifying as Tay-Sachs could ever be included in the plan of a benevolent higher being.

If anyone thinks that any debilitating disease has any place in the plan of an omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscient higher being, that person is deluded and WRONG.

It's not the idea of God that bothers me, it's the idea of a loving God who would allow us to live in this world.

>> ^Dignant_Pink:
i'm a devout catholic. i believe in god and his son jesus. i believe that everything that happens, good or bad, is, to quote the joker, "all part of the plan." i dont presume to know that plan, but i believe there is one.
and yet i upvoted. why? because it's funny. too many times, atheists (and i'm not saying all atheists. i'm not bigoted.) expect us to respect them while at the same time, insulting our religion. (yes i realize that catholics do this too, but not all of us. thats the same problem) none of them seem to realize that religion is just one of someone's defining characteristics. god i'm sick of the God/no God debate. why can't people believe what they want?

makes sense only if hell is other people... juries still out on that 'un.

none (ok astronauts briefly) of us are getting out of here alive.

life goes on.

Another angry (bald) atheist. I see the pattern.

>> ^Dignant_Pink:
god i'm sick of the God/no God debate. why can't people believe what they want?


I agree and I'm not sure why your comment was downvoted...

There are militant atheists that go out of their way to pick fights with religious people. There are religious people who try to force their point of view on the atheist/agnostic.

If we had our own beliefs and didn't try to force them on others (whether that is religious or lack thereof believe, political belief or any other form of "you must think my way or else" situation), the world would be a much better place regardless of whether the creator exists or not.

Upvote not only for content but for pitching it well enough that people bought it... =)

God stopped talking to people once lobotomies and thorazine were invented.

http://www.videosift.com/video/Reason-for-God

Meh, worthless snarky argument. It's as rare to find an atheist who can make a rational argument against God as a Christian who can make rational arguments for God. Actually, probably a lot less.

ive never heard a rational agrument for (judeo christian) god. Ever.

i've heard a plethora of what you assume to be a rare presentation of logic against 'god'. on this site, in fact.

Wasn't it Billy Connolly that stated, and I'm paraphrasing here, "We could be a teacup or the leg of a chair. The make up of atomic structure is like a solar system with everything spinning about a nucleus."

I've never heard a rational argument that stated what caused the creation of the universe other than a great big bang. Fantastic. That makes total sense. The only difference between Genesis 1 and The Big Bang Theory is the author of Genesis credits a single being with the creation of everything.

You have to have a pretty strong faith in either science or religion to believe that one or the other is completely right.

don't know why people downvoted my comment (i thank those that brought it back to null). i really wasn't trying to attack anyone. i guess i was just saying that it's stupid to judge an entire person solely by their religious beliefs. not all christians are militant religious nutbags, and to quote someone on this very website (don't remember who, sorry) "atheist =/= anti-theist"

Believing in God enhances my life. If not believing in God enhances yours, then go for it.

Thank God I'm an Atheist!! (Previously stated by Aleister Crowley)

>> ^ShakaUVM:
Meh, worthless snarky argument. It's as rare to find an atheist who can make a rational argument against God as a Christian who can make rational arguments for God. Actually, probably a lot less.


This video didn't seem like a refutation to me. That's been done already by others ad infinitum! Personal experience with others has no bearing whatsoever on where the known evidence points to. If a large swath of people can't make up a decent explanation(or come to grips) for exactly why/if something is so, it doesn't somehow imply that it isn't for that reason alone, proclaimed atheist or not. The existence of those misinformed "atheists" who are just following the trend to be edgy or different is irrelevant.

Besides the fact that the idea of a god (something that would be just a little HIGH on the complexity scale) is something additive to our general perception that requires proof positive and most likely would NOT be the default position of anyone. Seems to be obvious that the absence of a belief in a god(s) is innate in everyone who's not indoctrinated from a very young age. Substantiate the belief for one's own self or fail to be satisfied in this life, the one we KNOW exists.

Never mind all the ad hoc bullshit, ritual prostration/dehumanizing displays of self-hate before a grumpily bipolar deity, and clearly man-made, self-defeating fatalism that comes with specific religions like Islam or Christianity.

go ahead and believe in god if you can somehow logically seperate that profound belief from your decisions.

i assume gay marriage is ok with you... how about creationism in public schools... and explain republicans if there is a god...

>>AnimalsfromCrackers wrote:
Never mind all the ad hoc bullshit, ritual prostration/dehumanizing displays of self-hate before a grumpily bipolar deity, and clearly man-made, self-defeating fatalism that comes with specific religions like Islam or Christianity.

I'm sorry, I think you're confusing Christianity with the nihilism that comes from being a materialistic atheist.

This video didn't seem like a refutation to me.

The video is just trying to be clever by implying that people would still be missionaries to Africa even if they weren't Christian (appealing to the idea that people are inherently good or evil and religion doesn't change it - which is trivially false, BTW). The problem with this claim is that it is precisely the people who are devout believers in Christianity that find the ability to go live in the slums of Calcutta for their entire life, helping others. Not atheists. In general, Christians are much, much, much more likely to serve as a missionary or charitable equivalent than an atheist, and also give much more strongly out of their time and money to charities.

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Promoting this video back to the front page; last published Tuesday, March 3rd, 2009 12:44pm PST - promote requested by KnivesOut.