Fucking amazing. His voice is a bit high pitched though....running a bit faster than it should be..

^vote for the GILF @6:11

"EDITOR’S NOTE: While they have way too much in common, the actual Taliban uses political violence to achieve its ends and the Tea Party doesn’t — and that’s an important distinction." --moveon.org

This show is so good. If you're not watching it yet you should be

>> ^SWBStX:

This show is so good. If you're not watching it yet you should be


This.

The Democrats are Socialist
The Republicans are Democrats
The Tea Party is the future of America.


The Tea Party desires to follow the Constitution more than Democrat or Republican parties.


This show brought to by Democrats, Socialist of of tomorrow.

>> ^bobknight33:

The Democrats are Socialist
The Republicans are Democrats
The Tea Party is the future of America.

The Tea Party desires to follow the Constitution more than Democrat or Republican parties.

This show brought to by Democrats, Socialist of of tomorrow.


Facts don't mean much to you, do they?

Ooooh, I love this game. Let me try:



The Democrats are Republicans
The Republicans are Fascists
The Tea Baggers are fucking lunatics
Bobknight is delusional


How'd I do?
>> ^bobknight33:

The Democrats are Socialist
The Republicans are Democrats
The Tea Party is the future of America.

The Tea Party desires to follow the Constitution more than Democrat or Republican parties.

This show brought to by Democrats, Socialist of of tomorrow.

>> ^volumptuous:

Ooooh, I love this game. Let me try:

The Democrats are Republicans
The Republicans are Fascists
The Tea Baggers are fucking lunatics
Bobknight is delusional

How'd I do?

You got the format correct, but for true bobknightyness, nothing you say should have a basis in reality.
You made the mistake of being accurate.

I approve of this message. Was he high during this broadcast? =)
>> ^brycewi19:

>> ^SWBStX:
This show is so good. If you're not watching it yet you should be

This.

>> ^oOPonyOo:

I approve of this message. Was he high during this broadcast? =)
>> ^brycewi19:
>> ^SWBStX:
This show is so good. If you're not watching it yet you should be

This.



I don't know--but I was.

*promote

Promoting this video back to the front page; last published Wednesday, August 29th, 2012 9:14am PDT - promote requested by eric3579.

This can't be overstated. Abhorrent as the Tea Party may be, they aren't actively executing their political opposition, they aren't trying to keep girls out of school by throwing acid in their faces and they aren't trying to institute death by stoning for women convicted of adultery(eg. being rape victims).

>> ^messenger:

"EDITOR’S NOTE: While they have way too much in common, the actual Taliban uses political violence to achieve its ends and the Tea Party doesn’t — and that’s an important distinction." --moveon.org

>> ^bcglorf:

This can't be overstated. Abhorrent as the Tea Party may be, they aren't actively executing their political opposition, they aren't trying to keep girls out of school by throwing acid in their faces and they aren't trying to institute death by stoning for women convicted of adultery(eg. being rape victims).
>> ^messenger:
"EDITOR’S NOTE: While they have way too much in common, the actual Taliban uses political violence to achieve its ends and the Tea Party doesn’t — and that’s an important distinction." --moveon.org



But they sure made a point of ensuring that everyone knew they were gathering up their guns now, didn't they? Or are we forgetting all those weapons turning up at political rallies a few years ago?

I'd say that was pretty clearly intended as intimidation through threats of violence. Different, maybe in scale...but still terrorist actions.

Undermining the freedoms of a culture/society through violence or through political manipulation does not change the fact that you are still a device of social segregation.

The point is that there are certain people that are obsessed with trying to exert control over others they perceive to be inferior. I would argue it is out of fear and personal insecurities, which is perhaps a different topic.

Why is this a facet of our species in this day and age? We have the power to perceive and evaluate ourselves and our actions as they affect the people around use. What is it in our society or culture or upbringings that is affecting our lack of introspection so much?

There are some people that are not reaching a basic level of personal enlightenment that are negatively affecting so many around them. I am worried, our destination as a species is not so clear nor bright when I look forward in time.

Nice clip, greate message, but lets face it: nowadays we don't hear about "The Tea Party" any more: it has become the GOP.

>> ^brycewi19:

>> ^SWBStX:
This show is so good. If you're not watching it yet you should be

This.


The only problems I have with this show are 1) Aaron Sorkin's juvenile interpretation of adult romantic relationships and 2) the cutesy way he makes his characters talk. If I could alter those two elements of the Newsroom, it might be perfect.

So... protesting against government's excessive spending and taxes, and wanting to reduce the national debt, and budget deficit with a constitutionally limited government = Taliban


Yeah... makes sense.


Let's gather the most abhorrent quotes from people never involved with the foundation of the movement, and make loose associations that have little to do with its expressed agenda, and voilà... TALIBAN!

Now we can hate them without critical thinking, THANK YOU NEWSROOM!

I never quite got this. Can't these 20 million disenfranchised voters just pay 10 bucks or so to go get a photo ID that would allow them to vote?

Sure, the Taliban is a bit of an extreme comparison, so here's one closer to the truth:

Protesting against government's excessive spending (while supporting extended tax cuts for the wealthy and 2 pointless wars) makes you a hypocrite.

Crying about freedom from big government (while working to limit the freedoms of people you don't agree with on a federal level) makes you a hypocrite.

The Tea Party is a bought-and-paid-for astro-turfing campaign to subvert actual conservatism with something else entirely. It's not grass-roots when your "movement" is paid for by the Koch brothers and Karl Rove. It's a farce, a joke.

How'd I do?

Here's a quick quiz... Two activist groups are accused of being "astroturf". One is the Tea Party - which is accused of being a bought & paid for astroturf campaign of the right. The other is Occupy Wall Street - which is accused of being a bought & paid for astroturf campaign of the left.

Occupy Wall Street is guilty of documented cases of arson, assault, drug use, drug dealing, fraud, murder, public disturbance, rape, sexual assault, sedition, suicide, theft, vandalism, property destruction, bigotry, police harassment, and various other felonies and misdemeanors. The Tea Party is guilty of ZERO documented cases of any crime. Sounds like OWS is far more similar to the Taliban than the Tea Party.

The simple fact is that neolibs want a bad guy to demonize. Neolibs and leftists in general are simple, shallow, and vapid - very much like Sorkin and his on-air wet dream that he calls a 'show'. To these narrow-minded creatures, it is unacceptable to see honest, well-intentioned, reasonable everyday citizens opposing their radical agenda items. The Tea Party as a whole has been inoffensive and has as simple, basic message: cut spending. They aren't racists, or violent. They aren't anything close to the Taliban. But truth and reality don't matter to blinkered neolibs who NEED... who desperately CRAVE a man in a cloak with a twirling moustache to hate...

Can't these 20 million disenfranchised voters just pay 10 bucks or so to go get a photo ID that would allow them to vote?

That's not the point. A large portion of the so-called 'disenfranchised' are illegal aliens who should not be allowed to vote. Voter ID laws prevent illegal aliens from voting. Such a simple, common-sense law cannot be allowed by the liberal left as they'd lose out on literally millions of illegal alien votes. Protesting voter ID laws has nothing to do with "disenfranchisement". It has everything to do with preventing illegal voting activity - which all civilized nations do rigorously. I have to have a voter ID card to vote, and display an ID. It in no way disenfranchises ANYONE except those who shouldn't be voting in the first place. Everyone who should legally be allowed to vote already has all the ID that any ID law requires.

Demanding that citizens pay money to vote is unconstitutional as is stated in the 24th amendment to the constitution.
>> ^kurtdh:

I never quite got this. Can't these 20 million disenfranchised voters just pay 10 bucks or so to go get a photo ID that would allow them to vote?

>> ^volumptuous:

Demanding that citizens pay money to vote is unconstitutional as is stated in the 24th amendment to the constitution.
>> ^kurtdh:
I never quite got this. Can't these 20 million disenfranchised voters just pay 10 bucks or so to go get a photo ID that would allow them to vote?



So couldn't they put something in place that would allow people to get a free picture ID for voting purposes? Doesn't seem too difficult.

Or you could do the economically sane option of not having these photo Id laws in the first place since they are obviously not needed.
>> ^kurtdh:

>> ^volumptuous:
Demanding that citizens pay money to vote is unconstitutional as is stated in the 24th amendment to the constitution.
>> ^kurtdh:
I never quite got this. Can't these 20 million disenfranchised voters just pay 10 bucks or so to go get a photo ID that would allow them to vote?


So couldn't they put something in place that would allow people to get a free picture ID for voting purposes? Doesn't seem too difficult.

That. >> ^brycewi19:

>> ^SWBStX:
This show is so good. If you're not watching it yet you should be

This.

Or register as an absentee voter and get the ballot mailed to them. That just costs 44 cents plus a piece of paper and tape.


>> ^kurtdh:

I never quite got this. Can't these 20 million disenfranchised voters just pay 10 bucks or so to go get a photo ID that would allow them to vote?

upvote for Jeff Daniels
downvote for over the top mischaracterization of tea party

that is all.

Yet.



And I mean that. >> ^bcglorf:

This can't be overstated. Abhorrent as the Tea Party may be, they aren't actively executing their political opposition and they aren't trying to institute death by stoning for women convicted of adultery(eg. being rape victims).
>> ^messenger:
"EDITOR’S NOTE: While they have way too much in common, the actual Taliban uses political violence to achieve its ends and the Tea Party doesn’t — and that’s an important distinction." --moveon.org

>> ^MarineGunrock:

Yet.

And I mean that. >> ^bcglorf:
This can't be overstated. Abhorrent as the Tea Party may be, they aren't actively executing their political opposition and they aren't trying to institute death by stoning for women convicted of adultery(eg. being rape victims).
>> ^messenger:
"EDITOR’S NOTE: While they have way too much in common, the actual Taliban uses political violence to achieve its ends and the Tea Party doesn’t — and that’s an important distinction." --moveon.org




I do agree with this sentiment as the Taliban does it's "thing" differently, it should be made known though that tonight (and other talks too) at the RNC convention there was a large outcry for: making sure we have the best military ever and forever, ever; and, Iran and Syria, we may attack you at random if we have Republicans in office, so just keep yourselves on your toes. Oh and if you didn't know, we didn't need to really talk to anyone in the world about anything because, America is NUMBER FUCKING ONE AND YOU BETTER FUCKING KNOW YOUR PLACE!!!

Atleast, that is how it came across to me as a whole... So, as we have a VERY powerful military I'd say that we are a very active terrorizer of other countries (NOT just Syria and Iran; Mitt decided that Cold War part two was an excellent idea/threat to make). They may not be the Taliban, but they have a Pandora's Box that I imagine if opened and used, kills FAR more than the Taliban could ever hope to accomplish, both good and bad guys...

But, basically that was the entire gist of the "foreign policy" talked about. I'm sure the world is enamored with us right now, we can just ask people on here: If you thought the RNC speech's were extremely pro-American "Empire'ish" making many of the talks rude, condescending, and downright scary... Please vote me up. Otherwise, go for the opposite (remember this should be for the foreign crowd, if your the U.S. just reply or you can vote down, and then I'll just assume your a Teabagger).

@MarineGunrock not really going against anything you said (what you said was right anyhow and feeds into what I'm saying), I just wanted to grab all the quotes you had.

I really like this show. I acknowledge that it is still a tv drama, but if I put my political side aside. There are some very valid points in this show, such as candidates should be held accountable to their answers. It also makes a point that both political sides should work together to accommodate the people who voted for them. How information is miss-gathered and manipulated for the masses. I do like how the show calls out that the government is being bought by businesses. Also, that it calls out rino's and dino's, which I discussed at work the night before. It also tries it best to be the "news" to inform the public to let them make their own decisions.

I really wish this was a real channel. I'm okay if someone makes a mistake, but I respect them more when they admit it.

Jane Fonda?!?

This fictitious character explains rather exactly why I stopped voting republican more than a decade ago. The last republican I voted for? John McCain in my states 2000 primary. I wouldn't 'dream' of voting for him today.

You're simple, vapid, and shallow. Are we having a dialog yet?>> ^Winstonfield_Pennypacker:

Here's a quick quiz... Two activist groups are accused of being "astroturf". One is the Tea Party - which is accused of being a bought & paid for astroturf campaign of the right. The other is Occupy Wall Street - which is accused of being a bought & paid for astroturf campaign of the left.
Occupy Wall Street is guilty of documented cases of arson, assault, drug use, drug dealing, fraud, murder, public disturbance, rape, sexual assault, sedition, suicide, theft, vandalism, property destruction, bigotry, police harassment, and various other felonies and misdemeanors. The Tea Party is guilty of ZERO documented cases of any crime. Sounds like OWS is far more similar to the Taliban than the Tea Party.
The simple fact is that neolibs want a bad guy to demonize. Neolibs and leftists in general are simple, shallow, and vapid - very much like Sorkin and his on-air wet dream that he calls a 'show'. To these narrow-minded creatures, it is unacceptable to see honest, well-intentioned, reasonable everyday citizens opposing their radical agenda items. The Tea Party as a whole has been inoffensive and has as simple, basic message: cut spending. They aren't racists, or violent. They aren't anything close to the Taliban. But truth and reality don't matter to blinkered neolibs who NEED... who desperately CRAVE a man in a cloak with a twirling moustache to hate...
Can't these 20 million disenfranchised voters just pay 10 bucks or so to go get a photo ID that would allow them to vote?
That's not the point. A large portion of the so-called 'disenfranchised' are illegal aliens who should not be allowed to vote. Voter ID laws prevent illegal aliens from voting. Such a simple, common-sense law cannot be allowed by the liberal left as they'd lose out on literally millions of illegal alien votes. Protesting voter ID laws has nothing to do with "disenfranchisement". It has everything to do with preventing illegal voting activity - which all civilized nations do rigorously. I have to have a voter ID card to vote, and display an ID. It in no way disenfranchises ANYONE except those who shouldn't be voting in the first place. Everyone who should legally be allowed to vote already has all the ID that any ID law requires.

Glad to know that I am not the only who visits Videosift during my high moments.

>> ^Boise_Lib:

>> ^oOPonyOo:
I approve of this message. Was he high during this broadcast? =)
>> ^brycewi19:
>> ^SWBStX:
This show is so good. If you're not watching it yet you should be

This.


I don't know--but I was.

Stephen Colbert said it best in a video bit that I'll leave it to you to find, if you care, but I'll paraphrase.

The difference between Occupy Wall Street and the Tea Party is that the Tea Party has representation. OWS is a collection of individuals with no representation; individuals acting of their own accord.

Now as far as you saying the Tea Party not being offensive, well... I can look at the last minute of this video and see the list of things that I absolutely can show linked to the Tea Party and I find that extremely offensive and racist and even condoning violence -- close enough without actually pulling the trigger.

>> ^Winstonfield_Pennypacker:
The simple fact is that neolibs want a bad guy to demonize. Neolibs and leftists in general are simple, shallow, and vapid - very much like Sorkin and his on-air wet dream that he calls a 'show'. To these narrow-minded creatures, it is unacceptable to see honest, well-intentioned, reasonable everyday citizens opposing their radical agenda items. The Tea Party as a whole has been inoffensive and has as simple, basic message: cut spending. They aren't racists, or violent. They aren't anything close to the Taliban. But truth and reality don't matter to blinkered neolibs who NEED... who desperately CRAVE a man in a cloak with a twirling moustache to hate

To be fair. OWS was really a shitty attempt to rally progressives.

I'm sorry, as much as I might agree with their sentiments. Most people cannot relate to a bunch of college aged activists who don't have to work and can afford to camp out in a tent for weeks on end. They also attracted the homeless, who couldn't give a crap one way or the other for politics, they just wanted a place to crash.

I work for state gov't and a local OWS group camped out on the lawn outside our office for months. And yeah, for a few weeks they were active and protesting, but very quickly they got bored and left, except they left their tents and their shit all over the lawn. I remember walking back to my car after going to the gym after work...as I'm walking through the area they were camped out in. Someone was also walking through the area saying "Any occupiers here? anyone here?" she walked through the whole camping area calling out for anyone. no response.

Now as I understand it, the bigger OWS groups were a bit more mindful and respectful of the areas they occupied. But our local group was a complete and utter joke.

OWS just attracted college hipsters living off their parents dime. Say what you will about the Tea Party and their legitimacy (which would be zilch) but the Tea Party was far more successful at attracting the average joe.

Let me know when progressives want to have a rally/protest that actually makes sense and appeals more to the average human being with an 8-5 job and actual real responsibilities.

IF they want to spend money on elections? spend it on banning punch-style ballots so we don't have another 2000 Election situation.

I also just don't see the point of electronic voting. It would become a huge target for exploitation. Besides, if you have the scantron-style voting ballots, isn't that electronic enough? take your number 2 pencil and mark your damned ballot and let the scanner read it in. It's as simple as it needs to be.

I just don't see the benefit of having some sort of all electronic system. the more complicated it is, the more easily it can be disrupted.

Or if you MUST have a completely computerized voting system, at the very least, make it a closed system, no wireless, no transmission over the internet. electronic storage of the votes is fine, but if you transmit it over an open system, it's just going to get hacked eventually, There's no reason the results can't be sneaker-netted to where they need to go.

>> ^zeoverlord:

Or you could do the economically sane option of not having these photo Id laws in the first place since they are obviously not needed.
>> ^kurtdh:
>> ^volumptuous:
Demanding that citizens pay money to vote is unconstitutional as is stated in the 24th amendment to the constitution.
>> ^kurtdh:
I never quite got this. Can't these 20 million disenfranchised voters just pay 10 bucks or so to go get a photo ID that would allow them to vote?


So couldn't they put something in place that would allow people to get a free picture ID for voting purposes? Doesn't seem too difficult.

Who still uses socialist as an attack? If you are truly a christian then you are a socialist for example. You want to share with people and help each other out? oh noes!

The only problem with this is that there aren't any of what he calls "real" Republicans anymore, at least not in the Republican party.

I mean, he correctly counts Mitch McConnell as one of the Tea Party extremists. Given his position in the Republican party, that's pretty much the ball game.

Jesus: Jewish Socialist>> ^swedishfriend:

Who still uses socialist as an attack? If you are truly a christian then you are a socialist for example. You want to share with people and help each other out? oh noes!

The Newsroom - Why Will is a Republican has been added as a related post - related requested by RFlagg on that post.