New York Legalizes Same-Sex Marriage!

NY has become the 6th (and the largest) state to legalize gay marriage.
MaxWildersays...

I want to highlight that last statement the reporter made: "... the state includes New York City, with its worldwide prominence."

That's what makes this such a significant win. In a lot of ways, New York is the capitol of the world. (As a resident of Los Angeles, I hate to admit that.) Unlike with economic theory, cultural trickle-down is a real thing, and this will accelerate the process of bringing marriage equality to other regions.

Now if we could only settle the issue in California...

RadHazGsays...

I'm amazed that the woman speaking against the motion wasn't immediately crushed to death at the irony of a black person speaking against a minorities civil rights.

braindonutsays...

Wish I could hear the rest of Mark Grisanti's statement. A republican voting yes on gay marriage, because they believe in freedom and don't want to tell people how to live their lives... That's the kind of republican I want to see more of.

quantumushroomsays...

Is gay 'marriage' a bad idea? Probably.

When will the next Grisanti come along who 'sees nothing wrong' with polygamy? Soon.

If there are negative consequences for society resulting from gay 'marriage', will they be hidden and downplayed by the libmedia? Without a doubt.

Do marijuana users deserve more consideration than these scant few gays who even want to marry? Hells yes.

xxovercastxxsays...

I'm quite proud of my home state this weekend; or at least I was until I saw them chanting "USA! USA! USA!" like a bunch of neocon warmongers. That was a bit embarrassing.

I kid, though. Great day for NY. If they can ever get their cost of living under control, maybe I'll move back.

shinyblurrysays...

The more of Gods laws this country openly flaunts, the more it hastens itself towards destruction. God has richly blessed this nation, and because of that, He requires much of us..

"From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked."

The more this nation becomes like Sodom and Gemorrah, the more we earn its punishment. We have a president that openly mocks the bible, who has a cult of personality that worships him as a secular Messiah..which alone makes this government Satanic. We have a nation filled with apostate Christians and unbelievers. We have a morally bankrupt culture that worships the false idols of money and celebrity. Even our youth have become vain and prideful, and no wonder..because in America it's the united states of me, myself and I. Unless we change our ways, and soon, God is going to change them for us. I doubt anyone is going to be putting on sackcloth and ashes, so it may well be too late:

Matthew 7:26-27

"Everyone who hears these words of Mine and does not act on them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand.

"The rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and slammed against that house; and it fell--and great was its fall."

berticussays...

i went to the pride parade today and the level of happiness was so astounding i was overwhelmed
it was pure joy, i couldn't stop smiling and laughing and reveling in it

i want to feel pity that people like qm and sb are being left behind, but i can't today
today i am just so happy -- and i don't even live in this country, let alone this state

ForgedRealitysays...

HAHAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAAHAHA

If you don't have GOD in your life... The second someone brings fucking religion into anything as their basis for opinion, I immediately disregard them as irrelevant, brainwashed filth, and ignore everything else they have to say.

Faggots.

quantumushroomsays...

I have no problem with polygamy, however our complex society of laws might. I'm standing by as the legal chaos of gay 'marriage' begins its ascent. This is mob rule by a mob smaller than the majority.

The real danger is what these morally-questionable decisions mean in the long run. Today the defenders of gay marriage scoff at polygamy ever becoming legal when they have no moral grounds to deny polygamists anything. Beyond both of those endeavors the moral relativists will attempt to dismantle laws protecting children (put another way, they have no moral basis for opposing the decay of such laws).

Today the liberal shakes his head and laughs at such possibilities, because presently children are legally incapable of consenting to sexual relationships or marriage. But what are laws to judicial activists who circumvent them? Just 50 years ago homosexuality was defined as a mental disorder; now it's celebrated.

You'd think prostitution would be legal before gay 'marriage'. What a shortage of proper values!



>> ^xxovercastxx:

>> ^quantumushroom:
When will the next Grisanti come along who 'sees nothing wrong' with polygamy? Soon.

What do you see as morally wrong or problematic with polygamy?

ForgedRealitysays...

>> ^shinyblurry:

The more of Gods laws this country openly flaunts, the more it hastens itself towards destruction. God has richly blessed this nation, and because of that, He requires much of us..


HAHAHAHA!!! What the FUCK?! How has some mythical, nebulous idea invented by man that you call "god" done ANYTHING for this country, or any other thing that exists, for that matter?


To deny the power, determination, and ingenuity of mankind is to truly walk life blind. The lie that is god did not do anything to "bless" this country. Anything and everything that we have is solely because of US. Us fellow humans get things done on our own. We live and survive and let live without the need for archaic misbeliefs.

If there is one thing that religion does, it's motivate through fearmongering, not anything worth subscribing to or openly admitting you believe in. To do so, is to admit mental illness, and the rest of us who are sane will eagerly cast you aside to be left behind with the rest of the backward thinkers. Religion does more long term damage than it does good, and you're lying to yourself by being fearful to live life without some mythical deity holding your hand and babysitting you all along the way.

shinyblurrysays...

Look man, you don't know what you're doing. You're celebrating the fall of mankind..all of these people you think deserve civil rights are just unrepentant sinners who are in rebellion against God. This is a terrible sign that America is headed for destruction. Don't pity me, pity the ones who are perishing without any hope.

>> ^berticus:
i went to the pride parade today and the level of happiness was so astounding i was overwhelmed
it was pure joy, i couldn't stop smiling and laughing and reveling in it
i want to feel pity that people like qm and sb are being left behind, but i can't today
today i am just so happy -- and i don't even live in this country, let alone this state

shinyblurrysays...

What are you, 13?

>> ^ForgedReality:
HAHAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAAHAHA
If you don't have GOD in your life... The second someone brings fucking religion into anything as their basis for opinion, I immediately disregard them as irrelevant, brainwashed filth, and ignore everything else they have to say.
Faggots.

ForgedRealitysays...

>> ^shinyblurry:

What are you, 13?
>> ^ForgedReality:
HAHAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAA
HAHA
If you don't have GOD in your life... The second someone brings fucking religion into anything as their basis for opinion, I immediately disregard them as irrelevant, brainwashed filth, and ignore everything else they have to say.
Faggots.



Why yes, yes I am. I am also sane and ten times more intelligent than you, sir. Thanks for playing!

Go read your little book of lies and get the hell off the internet.

edit - Oh, and by the way, my first comment here, the one that you just quoted was not directed at you, it was directed at the idiot bitch in the video, so kindly shut the fuck up. Thank you.

berticussays...

http://bit.ly/91jDLi

>> ^shinyblurry:

Look man, you don't know what you're doing. You're celebrating the fall of mankind..all of these people you think deserve civil rights are just unrepentant sinners who are in rebellion against God. This is a terrible sign that America is headed for destruction. Don't pity me, pity the ones who are perishing without any hope.
>> ^berticus:
i went to the pride parade today and the level of happiness was so astounding i was overwhelmed
it was pure joy, i couldn't stop smiling and laughing and reveling in it
i want to feel pity that people like qm and sb are being left behind, but i can't today
today i am just so happy -- and i don't even live in this country, let alone this state


shinyblurrysays...

If you were intelligent you would know there is a God..also, those who know all but lack within are utterly lacking.

>> ^ForgedReality:
>> ^shinyblurry:
What are you, 13?
>> ^ForgedReality:
HAHAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAA
HAHA
If you don't have GOD in your life... The second someone brings fucking religion into anything as their basis for opinion, I immediately disregard them as irrelevant, brainwashed filth, and ignore everything else they have to say.
Faggots.


Why yes, yes I am. I am also sane and ten times more intelligent than you, sir. Thanks for playing!
Go read your little book of lies and get the hell off the internet.
edit - Oh, and by the way, my first comment here, the one that you just quoted was not directed at you, it was directed at the idiot bitch in the video, so kindly shut the fuck up. Thank you.

shinyblurrysays...

bit.ly links are unsafe so ill just have to imagine it was something *really* profound

>> ^berticus:
http://bit.ly/91jDLi
>> ^shinyblurry:
Look man, you don't know what you're doing. You're celebrating the fall of mankind..all of these people you think deserve civil rights are just unrepentant sinners who are in rebellion against God. This is a terrible sign that America is headed for destruction. Don't pity me, pity the ones who are perishing without any hope.
>> ^berticus:
i went to the pride parade today and the level of happiness was so astounding i was overwhelmed
it was pure joy, i couldn't stop smiling and laughing and reveling in it
i want to feel pity that people like qm and sb are being left behind, but i can't today
today i am just so happy -- and i don't even live in this country, let alone this state



ForgedRealitysays...

>> ^berticus:

http://bit.ly/91jDLi
>> ^shinyblurry:
Look man, you don't know what you're doing. You're celebrating the fall of mankind..all of these people you think deserve civil rights are just unrepentant sinners who are in rebellion against God. This is a terrible sign that America is headed for destruction. Don't pity me, pity the ones who are perishing without any hope.
>> ^berticus:
i went to the pride parade today and the level of happiness was so astounding i was overwhelmed
it was pure joy, i couldn't stop smiling and laughing and reveling in it
i want to feel pity that people like qm and sb are being left behind, but i can't today
today i am just so happy -- and i don't even live in this country, let alone this state




hahah!!

ForgedRealitysays...

Wait, let's analyze this comment...

If someone is intelligent.... They believe in a god.

And yet, god only exists BECAUSE of the LACK OF KNOWLEDGE humans possessed when they invented gods as a means of explaining that which they did not understand.

But then you could argue that that does not necessarily mean they weren't intelligent, just ignorant or uninformed.

Okay, but then let's take the typical argument from religionists when confronted about their beliefs and why they believe the way they do: "BECAUSE THE BIBLE SAYS SO!"

Oh, okay, so you believe everything you read. That's not very intelligent, or at least it's not very SMART. The bible was written hundreds of years ago, and has since been translated and re-translated to and from dozens of different languages. Individuals and groups in power throughout different points in history have taken it upon themselves to modify the bible, adding and omitting pieces here and there to suit their agenda. They knew that gullible sheep, unable to think for themselves, are easily swayed by religion, and what better way to control a populace than by attacking their very basis for the way they live their lives?

Additionally, if one is intelligent, and they believe in ancient myths, obviously they're going to be some of the greatest minds the world has ever known, right? That's why all the geniuses of the world are devout Christians or whatever religion you want to name, right? WRONG.

NASA is not run by rocket scientists who go to church on Sunday. Great inventors and genius-level individuals such as Stephen Hawking are not religious specifically BECAUSE they are intelligent. They are able to think for themselves, not be told what to think.

Of course, religion and science are completely unrelated topics, and one does not have to be non-secular in order to be a scientist, but typically, the two mindsets would conflict, as religionists base their beliefs off of emotion and other irrational concepts. Scientists use a thought process, experimentation, and ruling out possibilities in order to come to conclusions and figure out FACTS about the universe around us. There are scientists who believe in the possibility of a god, but it takes a different form than that of some all-seeing being that created everything. I'll never try to explain that to you, though, as you're too blinded by foolish nonsense that has been force-fed to you since childhood.

I will leave you with this though: Adam and Eve. Here's some fruit. I'm going to tempt you with it, and then create a snake to TALK to you and tell you you should eat some of it, and THEN I'm gunna come back and be all "OH SHIT WHAT THE FUCK?! I SMITE THEE FOR ALL ETERNITY!!!" just to fuck with humanity. Wow. You worship a pretty evil, and vindictive force. Why would you want to do that? The fucker's up there just fucking with us like a little kid with a magnifying glass over an ant hill. Jesus christ, you must really enjoy misery. I'll take the reality of humanity surviving on our own acquiescence and compassion over that bullshit any day!

But please, continue. I can do this all night!

>> ^shinyblurry:

If you were intelligent you would know there is a God..also, those who know all but lack within are utterly lacking.
>> ^ForgedReality:
>> ^shinyblurry:
What are you, 13?
>> ^ForgedReality:
HAHAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAA

HAHA
If you don't have GOD in your life... The second someone brings fucking religion into anything as their basis for opinion, I immediately disregard them as irrelevant, brainwashed filth, and ignore everything else they have to say.
Faggots.


Why yes, yes I am. I am also sane and ten times more intelligent than you, sir. Thanks for playing!
Go read your little book of lies and get the hell off the internet.
edit - Oh, and by the way, my first comment here, the one that you just quoted was not directed at you, it was directed at the idiot bitch in the video, so kindly shut the fuck up. Thank you.



>> ^shinyblurry:

If you were intelligent you would know there is a God..also, those who know all but lack within are utterly lacking.
>> ^ForgedReality:
>> ^shinyblurry:
What are you, 13?
>> ^ForgedReality:
HAHAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAA

HAHA
If you don't have GOD in your life... The second someone brings fucking religion into anything as their basis for opinion, I immediately disregard them as irrelevant, brainwashed filth, and ignore everything else they have to say.
Faggots.


Why yes, yes I am. I am also sane and ten times more intelligent than you, sir. Thanks for playing!
Go read your little book of lies and get the hell off the internet.
edit - Oh, and by the way, my first comment here, the one that you just quoted was not directed at you, it was directed at the idiot bitch in the video, so kindly shut the fuck up. Thank you.


shinyblurrysays...

Oh, okay, so you believe everything you read. That's not very intelligent, or at least it's not very SMART. The bible was written hundreds of years ago, and has since been translated and re-translated to and from dozens of different languages. Individuals and groups in power throughout different points in history have taken it upon themselves to modify the bible, adding and omitting pieces here and there to suit their agenda. They knew that gullible sheep, unable to think for themselves, are easily swayed by religion, and what better way to control a populace than by attacking their very basis for the way they live their lives?

God pre-exists everything. We know God exists because He lets us know, and He would let you know that if you sought Him out. The New Testament was written 2000 years ago. The Old Testament is at least 1000 years older than that. We have copies of the early manuscripts so we know what the original bibles looked like. So the translations today are accurate, and this idea that they are corrupt is just outright false. Yes, man has used the bible for evil ends, but this is no different from anything else man does. The very reason that Jesus Christ came to Earth is because man is so desperately wicked and needs Gods redemption.

Additionally, if one is intelligent, and they believe in ancient myths, obviously they're going to be some of the greatest minds the world has ever known, right? That's why all the geniuses of the world are devout Christians or whatever religion you want to name, right? WRONG.

NASA is not run by rocket scientists who go to church on Sunday. Great inventors and genius-level individuals such as Stephen Hawking are not religious specifically BECAUSE they are intelligent. They are able to think for themselves, not be told what to think.


Some of the greatest minds in history were devout Christians..and some of the greatest scientists:

Francis Bacon - Originated the scientific method
Johannes Kepler - Laws of Planetary motion
Galileo Galilei - Father of modern astronomy
Nicolaus Copernicus - Heliocentric Universe
James Clerk Maxwell - Electromagnetic field
Neils Bohr - the Atom
Louis Pasteur - germ theory of disease
Rene Descartes - Philosopher and mathematician
Issac Newton - Invented classical mechanics
Max Planck - Founder of quantum mechanics

A lot of modern science is built on the backs of Christian thinkers, as you can see, and that is just a short list. Today, around 10 percent of scientists believe in God. At least 50 nobel laureates believe in God. Now, if you want to talk about great thinkers, how about Albert Einstein? He believed in God. Although not a Christian, here is what he had to say about Jesus:

"To what extent are you influenced by Christianity?"
"As a child I received instruction both in the Bible and in the Talmud. I am a Jew, but I am enthralled by the luminous figure of the Nazarene."
"Have you read Emil Ludwig’s book on Jesus?"
"Emil Ludwig’s Jesus is shallow. Jesus is too colossal for the pen of phrasemongers, however artful. No man can dispose of Christianity with a bon mot!"
"You accept the historical existence of Jesus?"
"Unquestionably! No one can read the Gospels without feeling the actual presence of Jesus. His personality pulsates in every word. No myth is filled with such life."7

Of course, religion and science are completely unrelated topics, and one does not have to be non-secular in order to be a scientist, but typically, the two mindsets would conflict, as religionists base their beliefs off of emotion and other irrational concepts. Scientists use a thought process, experimentation, and ruling out possibilities in order to come to conclusions and figure out FACTS about the universe around us. There are scientists who believe in the possibility of a god, but it takes a different form than that of some all-seeing being that created everything. I'll never try to explain that to you, though, as you're too blinded by foolish nonsense that has been force-fed to you since childhood.

I will leave you with this though: Adam and Eve. Here's some fruit. I'm going to tempt you with it, and then create a snake to TALK to you and tell you you should eat some of it, and THEN I'm gunna come back and be all "OH SHIT WHAT THE FUCK?! I SMITE THEE FOR ALL ETERNITY!!!" just to fuck with humanity. Wow. You worship a pretty evil, and vindictive force. Why would you want to do that? The fucker's up there just fucking with us like a little kid with a magnifying glass over an ant hill. Jesus christ, you must really enjoy misery. I'll take the reality of humanity surviving on our own acquiescence and compassion over that bullshit any day!


I base my belief off of personal revelation. I was an agnostic my entire life and raised without religion, and I was a secular humanist and a strict materialist who didn't see any evidence for God or spirit. God woke me up to the truth and let me know He is real. If you want science facts, you only have to examine the first page of the bible:

In the beginning (TIME) God created the heavens (SPACE) and the earth (MATTER)

And God said, “Let there be light (ENERGY),” and there was light.

It took mankind 3000 years to catch up and figure out the Universes foundation is based on these principles. There is also no better description which uniquely fits the big bang theory. Creation ex-nihilio, which is creation from nothing.

The serpent you're referring to was Satan. God put the tree there because He gave mankind free will to follow His commands or not. He also warned them of the consequences if they ate of the fruit. Adam and Eve decided to disobey God and believe the lie because Satan promised them they would have Gods power if they did it. So, instead of trusting God, they lusted after His power and betrayed Him. That's why they were kicked out of the garden. Their sin brought death into the world.

No, God didn't damn us for eternity. It's the very reason God sent His son Jesus to die on the cross, to save us from this fate we created and redeem mankind. So we could have eternal life with God again in the Kingdom of Heaven. We are sinners, and the wages of sin is death. Gods gift of salvation is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

petpeevedsays...

"We have copies of the early manuscripts so we know what the original bibles looked like. So the translations today are accurate, and this idea that they are corrupt is just outright false."

This statement betrays your profound lack of scholarship on the subject of the bible.

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