Proletariat Air.

Seems more likely to become unbolted in the case of an emergency...then again, there isn't usually much hull left in the case of an emergency.

That's a *terrible design. What about disabled people?

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Terrible... Absolutely Terrible.

And you don't have to be a fat person, or even disabled to suffer from these seats. All it takes is that you happen to be tall or wide.

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I like how the spokesperson defends it as a way to shame people into losing weight.

Don't get me wrong, I'm against coddling obese people, but there is a difference between people who are simply overweight which is normal, and the morbidly obsese, which is NOT normal.

6'1" and 230lbs is not obese. It's overweight, sure, but being overweight isn't the problem, its the truly obese people that are the problem. I like how even the tiny girl right away said that while she liked it, it just wouldn't work in reality.

Besides, this isn't about shaming fat people into losing weight, it's about maximizing profits. The obesity epidemic is just a convenient excuse for airlines to hold passengers hostage for more money.

If only there was some kind of system where people chould choose whether or not to buy tickets. We could call it a "free society" or something like that, and people could optimize their decisions for their needs.

Where's the dirtbike stunt?

Seems like a good idea to me for short <2h trips. Ryan air has predicted, that these seats would lower the cheapest flights down to 6€, which'd be immensely cheap.

I dont see any problem with this, cheaper flights is great, who gives a shit if your slightly uncomfortable for a few hours to travel distances that would be unimaginable without planes. Its great, fuck these people complaining. Pay more then. take a jog, stop overeating. Run there instead of flying. As for people with disability, well there are options there, like giving them regular seats at the same low prices. Like Louis CK says: "Your'e in a CHAIR, in the SKY!! Everybody on every plane should be constantly going "Oh my GOD, Oh my GOD!!" New York to San Fransisco in five hours and you had to wait 20 whole minutes on the tarmac, well that used to take 30 YEARS getting there, now you watch a movie and take a dump and you're home."

I call bullshit until an actual airline carries a flight with it for cheaper.

Those companies would strap you to the wing for the same price if they could get away with it.

@Kevlar, then they would go bankrupt and another company would outcompete them by offering normal service. That's the trouble with Darwinian systems.

There's a special place in hell reserved for people who come up with ideas like this.

Also, I want this dickhead designer to board a flight thinking "Oh, it's only 1.75 hrs." And then sit on the tarmac for another hour or four.

What is wrong with this? I've been in cars that fat people won't fit in, so why aren't people pissed off about that?

Some of us like options and prefer to vote with our wallets. If you don't want to fly on small seats, don't.

I'm 6'4.5" (1.94m) and 195lbs (88.6kg) semi-muscular built. I'd like to see his response when I tell him I'm too tall to ride. Would he tell me to loose a few inches? pfffttt. This guy needs to think of something else, sorry son.

^ If you know you won't fit in the seat then why would you buy a ticket?

@Psychologic because we're a species of 6 billion solipsists?

Oh, come on, dude. The issue here is making people almost deliberately uncomfortable, claustrophobic and immobile for the sake of some extra profit. It's not a matter of taste, or people thinking every design should suit them/their physiology, it's just fundamentally horrible design.

I was relieved to hear that it's only for flights of two hours or less in duration. The idea of being in that position for 22 hours on the Birmingham/Sydney route is almost as terrifying as a waterboarding session.

>> ^Psychologic:
What is wrong with this? I've been in cars that fat people won't fit in, so why aren't people pissed off about that?
Some of us like options and prefer to vote with our wallets. If you don't want to fly on small seats, don't.


People will always get pissed off when someone screws with something they think is mandatory to their lives. A tiny shitbox car isn't mandatory, you can always get something larger for the same price. Maybe not as new, but you still aren't showhorned into the same thing as everyone else. Most fat people get that way because they can't afford to eat well, and yes, eating shitty is far cheaper on this continent. Paying the extra for first-class isn't an option.

>> ^Gallowflak:

Oh, come on, dude. The issue here is making people almost deliberately uncomfortable, claustrophobic and immobile for the sake of some extra profit. It's not a matter of taste, or people thinking every design should suit them/their physiology, it's just fundamentally horrible design.
I was relieved to hear that it's only for flights of two hours or less in duration. The idea of being in that position for 22 hours on the Birmingham/Sydney route is almost as terrifying as a waterboarding session.


It's optional. As far as I can tell, no one is being put in that situation against their will (that would be fairly dishonest).

Bicycles aren't exactly comfortable either, but people choose to spend hours on those. You may not want to, and that's fine, but I'm glad the option exists.

>> ^Psychologic:

>> ^Gallowflak:
Oh, come on, dude. The issue here is making people almost deliberately uncomfortable, claustrophobic and immobile for the sake of some extra profit. It's not a matter of taste, or people thinking every design should suit them/their physiology, it's just fundamentally horrible design.
I was relieved to hear that it's only for flights of two hours or less in duration. The idea of being in that position for 22 hours on the Birmingham/Sydney route is almost as terrifying as a waterboarding session.

It's optional. As far as I can tell, no one is being put in that situation against their will (that would be fairly dishonest).
Bicycles aren't exactly comfortable either, but people choose to spend hours on those. You may not want to, and that's fine, but I'm glad the option exists.


With the condition that it's optional, then there's surely no problem. However, an important consideration is what percentage of seats will be comprised of these new designs in the airlines that install them.

I should also say that I have no idea what bicycles have to do with anything.

>> ^sillma:

Seems like a good idea to me for short <2h trips. Ryan air has predicted, that these seats would lower the cheapest flights down to 6€, which'd be immensely cheap.

As a frequent flyer, I can tell you that most "<2 hour flights" often involve an additional hour of sitting on the runway. This is a terrible idea.

I read somewhere that the British air safety people have said they wont allow any civilian carriers to fly in or out of the UK with this system.

Which pretty much screws ryanair.

Couple of points, your face would be awful close to the seat back in front of you if you do happen to be in for some serious turbulence or bumps, even non emergency events could have you "simulate" a face plant.

Secondly, at the British Midland crash in the mid eighties in northern england (Kegworth??), a common occurrence was sitting passengers legs flailing forward on impact and being broken on the seat in front. Seems that would be more pronounced if your standing. Also, the passengers on that flight who were able to fold down the seat in front (if it was empty) were more likely to survive, others suffered serious head injuries or were killed outright by hitting the seatback in front.

>> ^Gallowflak:

>> ^Psychologic:
>> ^Gallowflak:
Oh, come on, dude. The issue here is making people almost deliberately uncomfortable, claustrophobic and immobile for the sake of some extra profit. It's not a matter of taste, or people thinking every design should suit them/their physiology, it's just fundamentally horrible design.
I was relieved to hear that it's only for flights of two hours or less in duration. The idea of being in that position for 22 hours on the Birmingham/Sydney route is almost as terrifying as a waterboarding session.

It's optional. As far as I can tell, no one is being put in that situation against their will (that would be fairly dishonest).
Bicycles aren't exactly comfortable either, but people choose to spend hours on those. You may not want to, and that's fine, but I'm glad the option exists.

With the condition that it's optional, then there's surely no problem. However, an important consideration is what percentage of seats will be comprised of these new designs in the airlines that install them.
I should also say that I have no idea what bicycles have to do with anything.


Unless every single plane installs this and only this - that's still optional.

I *can* fit in one of these seats, i don't *want* to sit on one, so i won't. Where's the beef? No one's forcing anyone to use them, so why the fuck would anyone complain?

If you're too fat to fit on a rollercoaster, you find another ride that you can fit on. That rollercoaster is not mandatory.

YO! I've been around aviation all my life and know the solution: Stop trying to pack people onto tubes attached to perpendicular wings! The flying wing is the most efficient, safe and practical way to build an aircraft. I don't know why we got this idea that our airplanes have to look like trucks with wings but I do know it sucks.

Upvote only for the painfully honest product spokesman `Lose the weight, fatass American`

There sure is a lot of bitching going on here. As they said, this is for a flight class below economy. Buy an economy seat when you fly and you wont have to sit in these seats.

Ryanair already did a survey asking if people would stand on flights (of 1-2 hours) if it meant they were cheaper and the overwhelming response was yes.

I'm not a little guy, but if it meant I could get an hour-long flight for $40 I would happily use that seat. If that's not your style then pay a little more for a bigger seat and stop bitching.

It's obamacare in the sky.

>> ^sillma:

Seems like a good idea to me for short <2h trips. Ryan air has predicted, that these seats would lower the cheapest flights down to 6€, which'd be immensely cheap.

Ahahaha, Italians. And yes, where are the dirtbikes?

Pfft, I've flown the 6 euro flights with Ryannair - before fees pile on top of course. And on normal seats. But yeah, crazy.

@dannym3141

I can fit in one of these seats. I don't want to, so I won't. The beef is with the misanthropic, sociopathic crackpot who came up with the idea. If people want to use it, more power to them, but the designer is still a cunt.

And I'm not fat. I'm just chunky.

@Gallowflak

So find a seat you want to use, don't moan about it. If you're buying an easy chair and the first one doesn't fit you properly, you find another easy chair.

>> ^quantumushroom:

It's obamacare in the sky.


The next time a natural disaster video is sifted, refer to it as Obamageddon. That would be a great way to stick it to the Sift.

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