Thanks @
eric3579 for the video.
On June 8, 2011 the following unfortunate arrest took place in Canton, OH. Notifying the policy when you have a firearm is required by Ohio Law, but when this individual with a thirty-day old license tries to do that he is repeatedly ordered to look away, shut up, or interrupted and "forced" to change what he is speaking about by the actions of an aggressive cop who maintains verbal control of the situation.
A two man car dealing with three people put itself at risk when one officer started what appears to be an illegal search of the rear of the car without extracting or securing the driver - which would have given him an opportunity to notify.
What follows is horrific example of a police officer losing all self-control, threatening to beat the female, threatening to beat the driver and eventually saying he should have executed him "and wouldn't have lost any sleep over it" that night.
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31 Comments
blankfistsays...*provoke
siftbotsays...Self promoting this video and sending it back into the queue for one more try; last queued Thursday, July 21st, 2011 12:40pm PDT - promote requested by original submitter blankfist.
Morganthsays...I upvoted this (after reading the description) because I believe that these kinds of abuses by cops need to be seen so that there is change. However, I didn't actually watch it. I've found that I can't watch any of these videos just because they make me too angry. I don't like where my mind goes after I watch these and they can sometimes ruin the rest of my day.
Aniatariosays...F**king disgraceful, the poor man was both respectful and completely complaisant the entire time. Basically there was absolutely nothing he could have done, whether he spoke up or not, the officer was going to give him shit either way.
IronDwarfsays...From the video: "If the driver were to ignore orders not to speak to state that he had a firearm the consequences could have been deadly."
That's the excuse they are giving that the driver didn't mention it right away? Come on.
No doubt the cop is a hothead and overreacted, but information like "I have a weapon on me legally at this time" should be given directly.
quantumushroomsays...The bad eggs are out there, but that's all they are, bad eggs. This is not the norm.
I was most surprised they searched the car without permission. Unlike the clueless Taser tards, this poor guy has a good case for suing.
smoomansays...oooooooh, gimme fucking five minutes with this dickshit, and we'll see who gets lumps.
RittWittsays...Speaking as a former LEO, not only does the primary officer grossly overreact to the situation (though I would tell you that unless you've been in his shoes, it's not fair to pass judgement), there is a serious officer safety here. Consent issues aside, there is absolutely *no* reason the secondary officer should have searched that vehicle with the driver still inside.
I don't believe the driver's story for a second. It seems pretty clear that he's in a high-crime area, and is involving himself with a known pimp and prostitute. However, that situation has little to do with the arresting officer's actions. My primary outrage here is that this pair of officers put themselves in a position, either through poor training or complacency, to provoke a potentially lethal situation had the suspect intended it. Then, instead of recognizing that the failure to identify the firearm was on their hands, the officer reacted out of rage (and probably a bit of justified fear at how close he and his partner could have been to a lethal force situation) by lashing out at a largely cooperative suspect.
citosays...I hate pigs, I have a friend of mine who became a cop out of highschool, he was in there about 2 years but he quit and turned whistleblower for GBI. The local cops were hitting up drug dealers, would threaten them with arrest unless they turned over their drugs and money. If they refused or ran they got beat. The cops would then smoke the pot, and sell the rest. Then use the dealers money to augment their own salaries.
My friend was actually shown how he could get 2 or 3 dealers of his own, and run the racket to give himself a pay raise by using threats of arrest to take all the money of the dealers for himself.
anyhow he turned whistleblower and they fired 32 police and the sheriff in town. Since we are a smaller town there was no chief, the sheriff ran it all.
Anyhow I could write a book on corrupt pigs from all the stories I was told from the inside.
people seriously need to rise up and drag these pigs into centers of streets and beat them until they can only crawl home. And do it on a mass scale across the country.
MrFisksays..."It's not where your going, it's what your doing."
csnel3says...The cop was so upset he didnt know if he should cave in the guys head, shoot him in the mouth, or step back and put 10 bullets in him. Are those the choices he has been trained to make in a stressfull situation?
He rants like a pro wrestler. Steroids? Also , is this cop ex military?
chilaxesays...BTW, there's no rational reason to outlaw purchasing sex, is there?
possomsays...w o w
ChaosEnginesays...>> ^cito:
I hate pigs, I have a friend of mine who became a cop out of highschool, he was in there about 2 years but he quit and turned whistleblower for GBI. The local cops were hitting up drug dealers, would threaten them with arrest unless they turned over their drugs and money. If they refused or ran they got beat. The cops would then smoke the pot, and sell the rest. Then use the dealers money to augment their own salaries.
My friend was actually shown how he could get 2 or 3 dealers of his own, and run the racket to give himself a pay raise by using threats of arrest to take all the money of the dealers for himself.
anyhow he turned whistleblower and they fired 32 police and the sheriff in town. Since we are a smaller town there was no chief, the sheriff ran it all.
Anyhow I could write a book on corrupt pigs from all the stories I was told from the inside.
people seriously need to rise up and drag these pigs into centers of streets and beat them until they can only crawl home. And do it on a mass scale across the country.
"Pigs"? Seriously? Grow the fuck up. Idiot.
MarineGunrocksays...Granted, the moron driver should have "fought" to inform the officer that he was carrying, but that guy (the main officer) must have a 2 inch dick to be shouting like that the entire time. LEOs should always be courteous and professional unless they need a commanding voice to issue lawful orders. This guy needs some SERIOUS training, or a simple removal from duty. No one with this much unwarranted aggression should be a cop. Also, (illegally) searching a vehicle with people still in it? Is he fucking retarded?
Maurusays...Well, if this was indeed a high crime area i can somewhat understand the officer for getting worked up.
All the more astonishing that these policemen weren't properly trained to handle such a situation in a professional manner though.
shagen454says...Haha, fucking scaredy pig is laughably scary.
rottenseedsays...>> ^quantumushroom:
The bad eggs are out there, but that's all they are, bad eggs. This is not the norm.
I was most surprised they searched the car without permission. Unlike the clueless Taser tards, this poor guy has a good case for suing.
it's just disheartening that they bestow such power upon the "bad eggs". In fact, it seems like such a power may even be a magnet for bad eggs.
siftbotsays...Tags for this video have been changed from 'officer, dash cam, psychopath, 2nd amendment, police state' to 'officer, dash cam, psychopath, 2nd amendment, police state, racism' - edited by jwray
draak13says...Thanks a lot for your comment. Your perspective as a former officer really brings something worthwhile to the discussion, and you stating your position as such really changed how I considered your comments. I'm a bit of an admittedly gullible person, so your assessment of the guy's story changed my perspective of the situation significantly. Your assessment of the officer's actions really shed a lot of light on the subject as well.
I feel that most of the people who try to leave 'cop-hate' comments on the sift try to boast more than they actually understand about proper law enforcement practices. Some of these people are merely 'anti-establishment,' and the mature ones recognize that law enforcement will inevitably exist the way that it does. But others just go nuts about getting upset about these videos, to the point of righteously emotionally masturbating.
Please continue lending your assessment on these kinds of videos, as I think they expand my world a bit. I'm sure there are others on here who feel similarly =).
>> ^RittWitt:
Speaking as a former LEO, not only does the primary officer grossly overreact to the situation (though I would tell you that unless you've been in his shoes, it's not fair to pass judgement), there is a serious officer safety here. Consent issues aside, there is absolutely no reason the secondary officer should have searched that vehicle with the driver still inside.
I don't believe the driver's story for a second. It seems pretty clear that he's in a high-crime area, and is involving himself with a known pimp and prostitute. However, that situation has little to do with the arresting officer's actions. My primary outrage here is that this pair of officers put themselves in a position, either through poor training or complacency, to provoke a potentially lethal situation had the suspect intended it. Then, instead of recognizing that the failure to identify the firearm was on their hands, the officer reacted out of rage (and probably a bit of justified fear at how close he and his partner could have been to a lethal force situation) by lashing out at a largely cooperative suspect.
GenjiKilpatricksays...What he meant was "Corrupted Bureaucrat". ..I think.
>> ^ChaosEngine:
>> ^cito:
I hate pigs, I have a friend of mine who became a cop out of highschool, he was in there about 2 years but he quit and turned whistleblower for GBI. The local cops were hitting up drug dealers, would threaten them with arrest unless they turned over their drugs and money. If they refused or ran they got beat. The cops would then smoke the pot, and sell the rest. Then use the dealers money to augment their own salaries.
My friend was actually shown how he could get 2 or 3 dealers of his own, and run the racket to give himself a pay raise by using threats of arrest to take all the money of the dealers for himself.
anyhow he turned whistleblower and they fired 32 police and the sheriff in town. Since we are a smaller town there was no chief, the sheriff ran it all.
Anyhow I could write a book on corrupt pigs from all the stories I was told from the inside.
people seriously need to rise up and drag these pigs into centers of streets and beat them until they can only crawl home. And do it on a mass scale across the country.
"Pigs"? Seriously? Grow the fuck up. Idiot.
RedSkysays...I don't understand why the law would not instead require officers to simply ask this question as a disclaimer rather than the suspects being required to state it. Clearly it leads to circumstances like this, not to mention cases where individuals are unaware of, or have forgotten the law.
enochsays...with righteous indignation the officer dictates to the handcuffed man how he would have justifiably executed him without remorse and not lost any sleep.
thats not a well trained law enforcement officer...
thats a sociopath with a badge.
littledragon_79says...As sympathetic as I am to cops, these guys are a disgrace. If the driver had wanted to hurt them, they would probably both be dead due to their incompetence. I can't help but think, "Pot, meet Kettle" as officer nasty tells the driver how stupid he is and how he is not ready for such a responsibility.
Administrative leave... I would probably sue for rights violations and push to have him/them criminally prosecuted for assault, threats, etc. I'm sure this is an isolated incident for this dept., but what about that specific officer? The sheer magnitude of his unprofessional behavior/attitude should warrant a firing or at best be confined to some non-public facing duty.
quantumushroomsays...Well, they're not bestowed abusive power with the State's blessing. Yes, it sucks to see this, but how great that many people can see this thanks to the cams.
>> ^rottenseed:
>> ^quantumushroom:
The bad eggs are out there, but that's all they are, bad eggs. This is not the norm.
I was most surprised they searched the car without permission. Unlike the clueless Taser tards, this poor guy has a good case for suing.
it's just disheartening that they bestow such power upon the "bad eggs". In fact, it seems like such a power may even be a magnet for bad eggs.
therealblankmansays...Make mine a large Farva.
messengersays...Cops certainly are not all bad eggs, in the sense that they don't all abuse their power over civilians, but a distressing proportion are, and they are not kept in line by anyone, so they tacitly are given this power by their supervisors, and on up the chain. It obviously hasn't even occurred to this officer that there might be consequences for the way he's treating this suspect. Cops all protect one another, good and bad. Even the "Role model cop" would circle the wagons around this guy, who's clearly abusing his power. THAT's the problem.
If abusive cops were brought to justice the same way abusive non-cops are brought to justice, these videos would be insignificant, or just sad, or even funny, like watching stupid thieves getting caught in ventilation shafts. Until that time comes, we need more public awareness and action towards fair, repsectul policing.>> ^quantumushroom:
The bad eggs are out there, but that's all they are, bad eggs. This is not the norm.
I was most surprised they searched the car without permission. Unlike the clueless Taser tards, this poor guy has a good case for suing.
kceaton1says...We had the good cop video and now this. Nice counterbalance. THIS is why the cameras are rolling people...
For each good apple there is a bad one.
messengersays...Sadly, your numbers may be accurate, or even generous. My feeling is it's in the nature of the job to take normal, healthy, well-meaning people who just want to help their community, and slowly turn most of them into egomaniacal bullies with persecution complexes.
I'm not sure it's the training that "Role model cop" received or gives, as much as it's his own inner strength of character that has kept him that cool, a strength which 99% of us lack. Faced with jerks like they have to face all the time, being lied to, taunted, threatened and attacked daily, I think I'd develop an unhealthy hate-on for basically all people who weren't cops. I'd even empathise with and protect the bad eggs because I know what they're looking at and what it can do to a person.
So, empathy is a great thing, but we all, including cops, have to learn it for people other than those like ourselves.
And we need to prosecute abuses of authority.>> ^kceaton1:
For each good apple there is a bad one.
blankfistsays...>> ^rottenseed:
>> ^quantumushroom:
The bad eggs are out there, but that's all they are, bad eggs. This is not the norm.
I was most surprised they searched the car without permission. Unlike the clueless Taser tards, this poor guy has a good case for suing.
it's just disheartening that they bestow such power upon the "bad eggs". In fact, it seems like such a power may even be a magnet for bad eggs.
Ding! Ding! Ding!
MrFisksays...http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/26/ohio-cop-curses-out-gun-owner_n_910367.html
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