Using a 1960ies modem to dial into the internet

Watch how a 45 year old modem is used with a modern laptop to dial into the internet. Proves that standard protocols go a long way.
sholesays...

"modern laptop"-fail
i bet you can't find a single laptop built this year with a serial port
get the usb->serial port adapter working and you'd be set for any hardware though
better yet, get it working on an andoid phone's usb interface
just for the redundancy of it

siftbotsays...

Tags for this video have been changed from 'antique modem, acoustic coupler, terminal server, linux, internet, bbs' to 'antique modem, acoustic coupler, terminal server, linux, internet, bbs, 300 baud' - edited by MarineGunrock

arghnesssays...

>> ^shole:
"modern laptop"-fail
better yet, get it working on an andoid phone's usb interface
just for the redundancy of it


Can the G1 (or any other Android phone) currently act as USB host? I've found people asking, but no complete responses.

I know that some Windows Mobile phones support USB host though, so could do this.

AeroMechanicalsays...

The serial port standard has been updated a bunch of times since then--my book here says the first official version RS-232C was in 1969, (prior to that "current-loop" signaling was used...I dunno either)--and the serial port jungle was notoriously mangled and complicated at that, so it's very impressive that it works period. Being able to just use a 9-25 pin adapter to hook it up to a modern laptop is incredible.

The standard damn well lasted a long time. I think the computer I have now was the first one that doesn't have a serial port, and I still have some newish instruments with serial port interfaces.

The point of this though is that I WANT A WOODEN MODEM.

snooznsays...

That old modem tone makes me feel all nostalgic-y. Yeah, I know he wanted to make a point about getting on the new-fangled "internet" with its modern-day "wikipedia," but I was hoping he'd call some ancient server and play "Adventure!"

pmkierstsays...

He is not "on the net" on the modem. He has simply made a terminal connection to a machine that is on the net. Now if he fired up something like SLIP and brought back IP to that machine, and fired up a browser (totally possible), I'd be more impressed.

sholesays...

>> ^arghness:
>> ^shole:
"modern laptop"-fail
better yet, get it working on an andoid phone's usb interface
just for the redundancy of it

Can the G1 (or any other Android phone) currently act as USB host? I've found people asking, but no complete responses.
I know that some Windows Mobile phones support USB host though, so could do this.


the way i understood it, the hardware is capable, but the code to run the host is not in current version of android.
and you would also need an adaptor cable to fit the standard usb connector into the small hole - which is a minor issue as i'm sure that is already for sale somewhere.

ReverendTedsays...

Well, today I learned where the term modem comes from. I was thinking to myself, "oh, this isn't really a modem, it's more like a simple modulator\demodulator...

...oh, heh. Duh." *facepalm*


>> ^pmkierst:
He is not "on the net" on the modem. He has simply made a terminal connection to a machine that is on the net. Now if he fired up something like SLIP and brought back IP to that machine, and fired up a browser (totally possible), I'd be more impressed.

I fail to see how that would be any more impressive. This device does two things: it turns bits into beeps, and it turns beeps back into bits. It wouldn't be doing that any differently regardless of the specific application.

pmkierstsays...

Because getting one modem to talk to the other is actually pretty easy, in spite of his trying to make it sound complex. Getting actually networked (as opposed to just being a TTY) is a serious PITA, albiet a software PITA (as opposed to plugging in cables).

I am quite surprised that drift in component specs didn't do it all in, though.

MaxWildersays...

I'm surprised that my modem from the 80's was the same speed! 20 years later! That would be inconceivable now.

BTW, if you want to get a shock, just find a magazine from the early 2000's and look for technology ads. Cell-phones, computer specs, TVs, whatever... they all look archaic. And less than 10 years old.

antsays...

>> ^MaxWilder:

I'm surprised that my modem from the 80's was the same speed! 20 years later! That would be inconceivable now.
BTW, if you want to get a shock, just find a magazine from the early 2000's and look for technology ads. Cell-phones, computer specs, TVs, whatever... they all look archaic. And less than 10 years old.


Got to love those brick cellphones.

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