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sfjockosays...A "trophy" video appearing to show security guards in Baghdad randomly shooting Iraqi civilians has sparked two investigations after it was posted on the internet, the Sunday Telegraph can reveal.
The video has sparked concern that private security companies, which are not subject to any form of regulation either in Britain or in Iraq, could be responsible for the deaths of hundreds of innocent Iraqis.
The video, which first appeared on a website that has been linked unofficially to Aegis Defence Services, contained four separate clips, in which security guards open fire with automatic rifles at civilian cars. All of the shooting incidents apparently took place on "route Irish", a road that links the airport to Baghdad.
do a google search for :
'Trophy' video exposes private security contractors shooting up Iraqi drivers
author of text:
Sean Rayment, Defence Correspondent
(Filed: 27/11/2005)
michiesays...this makes me fucking sick and angry. our western reputation of being this shining beacon of justice , democracy and civility is going down the toilet so quickly because of these ignorant hick assed morons.
dagsays...Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag.(show it anyway)
Very interesting when linked to this video:
http://www.videosift.com/story.php?id=1285
The question asked is very relevant to the above video.
dougzillasays...dag - good link.
This stuff is sickening and paid for by US taxpayers.
Farhad2000says...I hate those Blackwater bastards...
djsunkidsays...Ummm... did we just see a bunch of innocent iraqis get shot to death? Isn't that against policy on VideoSift?
Gmailsays...Go Bush Go! Blackwater rules lets go to Iraq and kill kill kill yehaw!
michiesays...Die (of natural causes) Bush Die (of natural causes)!
djsunkidsays...fucking fuck fuck. i forgot about this video. i'm downvoting it, but i think it shouldn't be on the sift. fuck. *blog
i say this is snuff, and i say discard, but some prominent members have voted on it. does anybody else agree?
siftbotsays...Sending this video to Sift Talk for discussion (sent by gold star member djsunkid)
eric3579says...The more exposure this kind of stuff gets, the quicker it may come to an end.
LadyBugsays...it's a disgusting display of humanity, but i don't think that we can technically call it snuff since we don't know if anyone's life was ended in this vid.
i would let the community decide on this one through votes! *return
siftbotsays...Returning this video from Sift Talk (Returned by gold star member LadyBug)
budzossays...These guys should be executed.
ravensays...not snuff... I still stand by the assessment that for a video to be snuff it has to have been produced with the intent to somehow profit financially from the death shown in the vid. Accidental deaths, wartime death, assassinations, etc should not fall into this category.
Besides, the more people who see this kind of shit the better, because yeah, it just might change how things are being done in Iraq.
michiesays...^ what the raven said.
sirexsays...or maybe if anyone stopped to think they'd realise they shoot anyone following them too closely, after warning shots and they have a sign which reads to the effect of "dont follow within x meters or we'll shoot you". - they have to assume the people following them are suicide bombers (which does happen). -- dont get me wrong, alot of bad shit does happen in iraq, and alot of it is digusting, but this video isnt one of them.
djsunkidsays...ok, if that's what you people think, but i still hate it. guh.
Fletchsays..."The more exposure this kind of stuff gets, the quicker it may come to an end."
This video is well over a year old and has been all over the internet. We are now halfway through a "troop surge" that is doing nothing. If people don't know what is going on by now, they don't want to know, or are just too lazy to find out. There are a whole SHITLOAD of Americans who are very happy and comfortable remaining accommodatingly ignorant (hello, sirex). I wanted to downvote this because I found the behavior of the troops despicable. I upvoted it for the very same reason. I've seen so many examples of crap like this, some here at VS, that I wonder if many of our troops just aren't as well-trained and disciplined as we'd like to believe. If that pisses you off... I don't care.
sirexsays...the reason you need to understand why they do this is because its portrayed in the media with extreme bias. Bad stuff does happen there, but dont get to thinking every guy with a gun over there is itching to shoot up some civies for their kicks.
and im not that ignorant. One of my friends has been a merc who went to iraq (not with blackwater), so go ask one of them what they make of this video.
..im not american, either.
reedsays...It's not clear in the video if anyone is actually killed, or if their cars are just shot up for no reason. So it's not neccesarily snuff. In fact it looks like this behavior is standard practice just to force cars to keep distance! And sometimes just for fun. It's insane.
Farhad2000says...Mercs don't fall under Army ROE and don't need to follow any set conventions on human rights.
Ivegotthebendssays...Sirex, I thought something similar to what you said at first. However, that doesn't explain why they slow to a stop and wait for people to catch up with them only to shoot at them then.
pass.the.grog.says...did anything ever come out of this? meaning... did they find out who it was and why they were shooting?
djsunkidsays...HOW THE HELL IS THIS TOP 15?!??!?!? GRARGH!!!!
djsunkidsays...fuck OFF it was from over a year ago! it shouldn't even be ON the sift. *head explode*
SaNdMaNsays...Some of you people obviously can't read. First of all they're not troops, but private contractors. Second, they're not Americans but British.
phelixiansays...This is disgusting....
chicarsays...There the ''democracy'' we bring to irak.
Estuffingsays...Just another reason I wish I were not an American during this time.
deathcowsays...I need a Canadian or Australian work visa...
deputydogsays...wow, what an awesome video.
top 15?! fucking wank.
antonyesays...This video is nothing without context.
Memoraresays...This is why we have lost in Iraq,
just the way we lost in Vietnam.
grspecsays...*sad
choggiesays...If we knew, all the complexities, the ACTUAL reasons and realities of why the US went to Iraq, then we would not at all be in any kind of disagreement....simply put, one can't make a valid observation without all the facts, and you and I will never have them, no matter what-
War will not end, until a new and improved paradigm unfolds-
Why do you think the French, Russians, etc., can get away with selling supplies and technology to the highest bidder?
Why do you think that the majority of humans on the planet being against armed conflict, does not manifest itself as peace?
Why do you think, that with the resources and enlightenment of countries who have been through reformation and industrial cycles, WON'T bring the rest of the world up to speed??
Why, in the honorable Elijah Mohammed's name, is starvation still a major issue, when the resources are in place to feed the planet?
How many more obvious questions can be ignored, while blame is placed conveniently on the backs of "pick a world leader"???
Yeah yeah yeah, Bush sucks...blah blah blah....He ain't The reason for the season, idgits....but somebodies are.....
Change comes with sacrifice, and all the editorializing in the world amounts to dick at this stage in the game.....and it is a game, be very sure of that......we's all pieces on a chess board....
Hail Eris, the Empire never died....
choggiesays...oh and, people who use other people's actions as an example of why a greater injustice exists, are idiots.
ravensays...*waronterror
siftbotsays...Adding video to channels (Waronterror) - requested by raven.
Arsenault185says...This is exactly the kind of thing people should see. No its not Snuff. For anyone who down votes it or tries to get rid of this video, all you are doing is promoting ignorance and censorship. People should be aware of what goes on over there.
No its not a perfect world. War happens People die needlessly. If no one ever knew about this than they would never have been investigated or brought to justice. The fact that this video is out here show other people who might see it that a message. And I think that message is that power corrupts. these people had military backing to be there. they were also civilian.
They had rights that the soldiers did not. They also had military protection. these assholes thought they had a right to do that shit. Obviously they were wrong. And they just furthered the image of western pigs to the locals. For all we know they added a year onto that war. Way to go guys.
Ekleksays...*military
*wheels
siftbotsays...Adding video to channels (Military, Wheels) - requested by Eklek.
Boise_Libsays...*dead
siftbotsays...This video has been declared non-functional; embed code must be fixed within 2 days or it will be sent to the dead pool - declared dead by Boise_Lib.
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