Alligators? Those big doggies would keep me from going in.

I don't think it qualifies as snuff, you don't see anything.

I think the thing that is upsetting most people is that the cops claimed they tried to go in and save them. If they would have just been honest and said that it was a swampy area full of alligators, so they called for rescue and waited, people would have been more understanding.

Not saying they shouldn't have jumped in, but if they weren't trained to deal with rescue in a swamp environment it could have just led to more deaths. From everything I have read, the pond was more like a mire, full of muck and sludge.

The YouTube comment section on this video is like a full blown clan rally.

Perhaps none of the officers could swim?...

I don't know what happened, but I kinda think calling the cops murderers because they didn't feel like dying a hero's death is a bit off.

They heard the girls screaming for help....they did NOTHING but wait for them to stop screaming before calling for help, and then they LIED and claimed they tried to help but couldn't. They know they murdered those children, that's why they lied and claimed they tried to save them. It was a clear, bold faced lie intended to cover up their lack of required lifesaving action.
Attempting to help drowning children is not dying a hero's death...it might possibly lead to that if the cops are idiots and go about it the wrong way, but claiming that attempting a rescue is dying a hero's death is just absolute bullshit. If water is too scary for cops these days, we should shoot them all in the head and put them out of their terrified living nightmares, because the only logical excuse is they have rabies and uncontrolled hydrophobia, so it would be a mercy killing, not murder to put them all down. I think you should re-think your position.

I think if this was a family member, you would feel 100% differently. These murderers chased the girls into the water, sat by and watched them die, then only afterwards called for 'help' ('help' that they knew could not come in time to help) and tried to hide that murder by claiming they tried but couldn't help themselves....when in fact they clearly didn't try to save them in any way. That's depraved indifference/murder at best, intentional premeditated murder in all reality. If those cops had driven into the water and citizens sat back and watched them die screaming, every citizen there would be charged with the murder of a police officer. Cops have a HIGHER duty than normal citizens to protect others, not a lesser duty.

I guess this means we'll never again hear the bullshit line that 'cops do a dangerous job and should get some leeway' if 4 ft of water is so terrifyingly dangerous that they let children die rather than step into it. If they are such sniveling cowards that any possible danger paralyzes them, they are absolutely useless and need to be fired.

As I said, I don't know what happened, but yeah, this "murderous pigs chase teenagers into 4ft of water and drown them" thing seems a tad extreme. I'm not saying that it isn't possible they are culpable in some way, I just can't make any determination about it from this dashcam/audio alone.

And yeah, if they were my family I probably would think differently about it - but then if they were family I wouldn't be allowed to sit on the jury, so, yah.

OK, 2 things we do know for certain....
1)they came out publicly claiming that "deputies took off their belts and tried to rush into the water to save the girls." but "didn't get far".
2) we know they didn't enter the water at all, and made absolutely zero attempt to save the screaming girls (unless you count loitering around until the screaming stopped before considering even calling for a tractor as some kind of attempt to save them...I don't).

Had #1 been true and the officers had actually had trouble reaching the car, or getting the girls out, fine. It was in no way true, though. In fact, we hear them discussing the screaming girls and waiting around until "they're done" before even considering any action.

You are welcome to your own opinion about that, but TRYING to save people from drowning is one of the things we pay first responders to do. When they completely, intentionally, and unequivocally shirk that duty (and the lie is proof that they knew it was wrong), and people die, that's murder...they have a DUTY to try. When they lie about it in an official capacity, that should be compounding special circumstances and get them a needle.

@newtboy

Actually , you only know that this deputy on this dashcam stayed out of the pond. Link below has the rest of the story, namely that there is additional dashcam footage, all of it released to the media. Somebody decided to put out just this clip on social media to claim the police lied about trying to save the girls. I'll post a link to the other dashcams if I come across it, but the link below came up within 5 minutes of checking the accuracy of this account.

https://m.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/4g8p71/sheriff_lays_into_media_for_misleading_reporting/

Well...

I don't know what to make out of this press conference, then, 2 days ago---where the Sheriff says the deputies you can see NOT doing anything aren't the ones who waded into the pond---

And that the ones who did wade in can be seen in other dash cam videos without belts and later without their pants (he has a pretty clear moment where he points out that deputies don't take off their belts or pants randomly for no reason at all...)

So---this might be a more unclear story...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZkDSXmhQe0

Yes, the Sheriff SAYS that, but I did notice they don't produce a video of damp deputies anywhere, they just CLAIM it's out there. I looked, it's not. They're liars....but I expect nothing less from murderers.

Here's possibly the clip being referenced, from the sheriffs office directly. Shows two officers, both stripped down from uniform, 1 looks like they are carrying back their vest suggesting it had been stripped off. I'm not sure how much more can realistically be expected. As the Sheriff said, have we really hit the point where unless we have a video of the deputies wading into the water it clearly didn't happen? I guess it's beyond hope to see a retraction of declaring them all liars and murderers for failing to save a bunch of kids from their own stupidity.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krliEVgUQoM

Yes, it is well beyond hope to think that THIS video makes a retraction proper.
The clip does not show a single person go into the water, water that had at LEAST 5-10 cameras pointed at it the entire time...yet they don't have ANY footage of ANY cop going even ankle deep....they have footage of 2 cops that took off their belts, one of which MAY be damp below the waist, or maybe not.
If I see you drowning and I take off my belt and stand around talking to my friends while you die...did I save you? Did I even try?
We have seen multiple angles of the pond with the car sinking in it, but absolutely zero footage of any cop even wading in, much less ALL the cops diving in to save the 3 girls. Every cop that didn't TRY is a murderer IMO. They have a clear legal DUTY to TRY...it's what they're paid to do.

It sounds like this department would benefit from water proof body cameras. The word of the police is less than worthless, they are professional, trained liars that lie as part of their job. I don't trust what liars say. You are free to trust admitted professional liars all you like, but I won't be following you down that rabbit hole.

Yes, we are at the point where, if cops CLAIM they did the right thing but still had terrible results as if they had NOT done the right thing, it clearly didn't happen with out proof that they did the right thing. That's what happens when you do the wrong thing so consistently, you lose the benefit of a doubt.

They are all still liars and murderers...even if what they claim, that one officer waded in and tried to save them, is true (and by no means am I saying it is), the other dozen cops sat back and did nothing but wait for death. EDIT: They could easily have made a human chain from shore to the car and saved all 3 with no 'danger' besides dirty uniforms.

Your prejudice is showing, I'm gonna give up on what is clearly a lost cause on this subject with you.

I get it, you believe, by default, that all police officers, not just this incident, are greater than 50% made up of liars and murderers who will kill people for slighting them and their authority. Just so you know, you are long, long past the point of confirmation bias in the degree which you've entrenched your train of thought in stone.

Close.
I believe they are nearly all liars because they themselves have clearly said that all police officers are liars. They will and have admitted publicly and repeatedly that this is the case, they are trained that lying is acceptable to gain information or compliance. I also believe that they are incapable of finding it acceptable to lie in some circumstances with impunity but at the same time NOT lying about their own bad actions...and time and time again that has proven to be correct. (once a liar, always a liar) It's not >50% that are liars, it's closer to >98%.
That said, I don't think a large percentage of them are actually intentional murderers, likely <1%, but I do think that >98% will support, lie for, falsify evidence for, threaten retaliation for, and actually retaliate for that <1%. That's also been proven by their actions repeatedly. That makes them all (>98%) accessories after the fact...so maybe not murderers, but murderer adjacent.

This admitted bias is borne from decades of repeated and consistent confirmation that it's correct, both from media and personal experience. Yes, it's unfair for that <2% of 'honest cops', but not as unfair as the >98% of dishonest cops are to them by far.

I think it's a sad state of affairs when my position, that those charged with and paid to protect and serve should maybe TRY to protect, is considered prejudice. Any officer that didn't TRY would be guilty with me on the jury. (of course, lucky for them, I am honest and admit I have a bias against police and think they are all liars and completely untrustworthy, so I never serve on a jury)

EDIT: I find it hypocritical that officers demand better pay and legal leeway because they have a 'dangerous job', but when presented with MINOR danger (like water) they cry and whine that 'they shouldn't have to put themselves in danger just to save citizen's lives'. I'm sure glad we had a completely different class of officer in 2001 or hundreds more would have died in the twin towers...but it makes one question, what would they do today in the same circumstance?

I would like to point out that, at 1:05, you can see what looks like the car in the water slowly sinking but still above water, and absolutely no officer anywhere near the water trying to help. Even if I'm mistaken about that being the car, the video covers most of the pond, and there's no officer seen anywhere trying to go in, or climb out. This video apparently contradicts the officers and Sheriff's account that they tried but could not get into the water. Had it happened, it would have been caught on ONE of those dash cams at some point.

Related is the press conference

http://videosift.com/video/The-three-girls-and-the-cops-controversy-and-this-press-conf