Secret military experiments during the cold war.
LarsaruSsays...

How is this shocking news? The US government has a long standing history of doing illicit research on its own or other countries citizens. Just look at MKULTRA and the whole infecting guatemalan prisoners with STDs debacle. These are just the known ones... I'd be surprised if there aren't actually hundreds of cases like these.

Sniper007says...

Hey, some people still believe building seven collapsed due to fire.

LarsaruSsaid:

How is this shocking news? The US government has a long standing history of doing illicit research on its own or other countries citizens. Just look at MKULTRA and the whole infecting guatemalan prisoners with STDs debacle. These are just the known ones... I'd be surprised if there aren't actually hundreds of cases like these.

chingalerasays...

If all were known in the "if we only knew" category firstly, videos here would be much more entertaining and all the toxic mental gymnastics in which so many here engage would quickly shift from banal spitting-matches on topics of politics, religion, and "why Johnny should ban guns" to something completely different and ultimately more beneficial to communal sanity.

Sniper007said:

Hey, some people still believe building seven collapsed due to fire.

NicoleBeesays...

Don't worry guys, they didn't just do this to US cities, but the cities of some of their allies, too!

"1950 - 1953: The U.S. Army releases chemical clouds over six American and Canadian cities. Residents in Winnipeg, Canada, where a highly toxic chemical called cadmium is dropped, subsequently experience high rates of respiratory illnesses (Cockburn and St. Clair, eds.)."

bcglorfsays...

The 'official' government story is that the spraying was testing. They however claim it wasn't testing the negative impacts of the spray, the spray was believed to be completely harmless, but easily detectable. They wanted to test the dispersion patterns and spread of potential chemical and biological weapons. That is weapons research( both defensive and offensive) but if you take it as true(I know) not intentionally meant to cause harm.

poolcleanersays...

Lies begin when a non-omnipotent consciousness forms and that consciousness seeks, let's say, truth, yet finds only half truths that require mental gymnastics in order to believe. Sand exists. How? I don't know. God? It's only natural to invent things concept to fill in the gaps.

A civilization of people formed out of collective half truths has unfulfillable expectations in this world which creates the security breach which breeds more lies. Thus it becomes state authority creating lies to appease those that their ancestors lied to since the beginning of our time. Brother kills brother. How did your brother die? A member of the opposing tribe did it! Opposing tribe dies. Known "truth" then becomes fact and history remembers that a violent tribe of brother-killers was sacked.

Truth will ALWAYS be an illusion to mortal beings of limited perspective. Always. Even if you perceptively died and met God in Heaven, it still remains suspect that your experience could be a lie guided by carefully controlled stimuli. If there's a modicum of truth that we have observed with science, it's only truth within the system of our understanding of the universe, therefore not Truth.

Yes, science allows us to observe and our observations have allowed us to record "laws" of the universe, but even someone like Richard Feynman admits to making shit up and then, Presto! it makes the equation make sense. Lies. No matter how small, they can fill in the gaps just enough to create perceived truth. But that's mechanical truth. A mechanism just needs to work or not work. It doesn't matter if you did everything right using precise truth.

So you may think: If life is an illusion, then what about all of the scientific experiments which have allowed us to create civilization as we know it? Well, every game, or sandbox, follows rules, so experiments within that world can be valid in that world according to the laws that govern it, but it doesn't mean those laws are the Truth.

If the world we are in was akin to something like Minecraft, observation would indicate that the world is functional and that there are observations which can be repeated over and over again with the same or similar results, leading to the creation of technology. But what about the concept of a .JAR or .DLL? Checksum? How about a network? If we only know the observed laws of the current server we have access to observe, how do we record the Truth? Black box observation and nothing more. My kingdom for a scientist that can perform unit testing. A string theory unit tester might be a good start.

Anyway, just rambling for communal sanity, as always. Not all of us have picked a side, let alone a position of understanding in the universe to cling to like a crucifix or a meme.

chingalerasaid:

If all were known in the "if we only knew" category firstly, videos here would be much more entertaining and all the toxic mental gymnastics in which so many here engage would quickly shift from banal spitting-matches on topics of politics, religion, and "why Johnny should ban guns" to something completely different and ultimately more beneficial to communal sanity.

Fletchsays...

More cat videos?

chingalerasaid:

If all were known in the "if we only knew" category firstly, videos here would be much more entertaining and all the toxic mental gymnastics in which so many here engage would quickly shift from banal spitting-matches on topics of politics, religion, and "why Johnny should ban guns" to something completely different and ultimately more beneficial to communal sanity.

not_blankfistsays...

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