Rose McIver's Sick Magic Trick Pisses Off Jimmy Kimmel

Okay, now, W T F.

Someone please tell me how this is accomplished.
lucky760says...

When they were cutting to commercial he leaned over and asked exasperatedly "How did you do that trick?!" (though this clip cuts out before that).

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iauisays...

Perhaps she has another deck of cards ready to be selected from, quickly chooses the 4 of clubs (somehow), and then pushes that card into the visible deck through a hidden hole or as she's extracting them from the package?

After writing all that I went back and can't see anywhere she would have been able to pull another card from. She is holding the deck awfully tightly with what looks like a very specific grip, but not being a magic-doer I wouldn't be able to analyze what that means.

lucky760says...

That's always the easy, go-to answer, but not how every trick is performed.

I significantly doubt Jimmy would ever go along with a "pretend to be surprised" magic trick. (He's not that type of guy/host, unlike the other late-night Jimmy who pretends [very poorly] to be surprised by everything he plans in advance.)

Paybacksaid:

He then chose the card as per her instructions before the show. It's not like he had a choice.

gorillamansays...

I also chose the four of clubs. What the fuck? Need to get Penn and Teller in on this shit.

That there are two american talk show hosts called Jimmy causes a real problem for me, given that like everybody else I bet, I can't be bothered to remember which is which. Is Jimmy Kimmel the good one? Oh yeah, then Jimmy Fallon must be the worthless sack of shit.

Babymechsays...

It's possible that they faked it, but it can actually be done without fakery, though it's not easy. First of all, before coming to the show, she gets a deck of cards that's specially made for magic tricks, though of course they can also be used for playing cards. Then, before the show, in the dressing room, she puts on a black dress and somebody cuts a hole in it, right over the stomach. And that's it, that's how they made it look like there's a hole in her dress, though it might also be green-screened.

newtboysays...

I often think 'If you're going to do 'magic' on TV, there needs to be at least one camera on the magician's hands at all times with no cuts'.
If they can reach off camera and then suddenly 'magic', I'll assume they had it set up just out of sight, and everyone on camera is just in on it pretending to not see the wires/mirror/second deck of cards set up in the chair/etc. That's how nearly every 'magic' TV show works, and it's tiring. Slight of hand magic is nothing if you don't see the hands the whole time....IMO.

Fusionautsays...

I actually have a deck of cards that is prepared so that you can do this trick. To prep the deck you sand the back of every card so that there is a bit of a rough surface. When the backs of two cards are placed against each other they will stick together if enough pressure is applied but will slide apart if you ease off.

Cards are paired together so that they add up to fifteen (back to back) and suits are paired together as well (clubs with diamonds and hearts with spades). For instance you would pair the 2 of Diamonds with the King of Clubs, the 3 of Hearts with the Queen of Spades, the 4 of Spades with the Jack of Hearts, the 5 of Clubs with the 10 of Diamonds et cetera... Aces are paired with each other.

When you set up the deck you set it up so that all of the clubs and hearts are on one side and if you flip the deck over you will see all of the diamonds and spades. A spare joker is used to mark which sides has the spades and diamonds and must be face down so it's back is seen when you pull the deck out. If the victim call out a diamond or spade you flip the deck over and find the corresponding card and the deck will look normal because of the joker's backside. If the victim calls out hearst or clubs you pull out the deck and remove the joker saying "oh, ho ho. How'd this get here?" and then find the corresponding card.

Just make sure that you sit down to do the trick so that people don't see that back of your deck...


Is my explanation okay? It's kind of a weird trick...

Edit: okay I got it kind of wrong but this video explains it waaaay better:

https://youtu.be/yUo32TSZES4?t=6s

Paybacksays...

Two Words: Occam's Razor



Probably had to go along with it to get her to agree to read Mean Tweets at some point in the future.

lucky760said:

That's always the easy, go-to answer, but not how every trick is performed.

I significantly doubt Jimmy would ever go along with a "pretend to be surprised" magic trick. (He's not that type of guy/host, unlike the other late-night Jimmy who pretends [very poorly] to be surprised by everything he plans in advance.)

lucky760says...

One word: pshaw.

No, silly. The basis of most all magic tricks hinges entirely on doing very complicated things or using very complicated special props.

Using Occam's Razor the selected answer would be: Rose McIver is really doing magic. That's simpler than "Jimmy Kimmel is a horny old man and he wants to beg this C-list TV show actress to do him the favor of being on his show at some future point because he has to bribe low-level actors to do that (as if that's how Hollywood works), so he got prepped on what card to select then rehearsed being surprised when she selected his card" and that's way simpler than "she has a trick deck that's laid out in a special way and requires you to memorize suits and numbers and pulling apart cards without giving it away."

Nonsense.

Paybacksaid:

Two Words: Occam's Razor



Probably had to go along with it to get her to agree to read Mean Tweets at some point in the future.

Paybacksays...

You. Are. Smoking. Crack.





No way in Hell she's down on the C List.

lucky760said:

One word: pshaw.

No, silly. The basis of most all magic tricks hinges entirely on doing very complicated things or using very complicated special props.

Using Occam's Razor the selected answer would be: Rose McIver is really doing magic. That's simpler than "Jimmy Kimmel is a horny old man and he wants to beg this C-list TV show actress to do him the favor of being on his show at some future point because he has to bribe low-level actors to do that (as if that's how Hollywood works), so he got prepped on what card to select then rehearsed being surprised when she selected his card" and that's way simpler than "she has a trick deck that's laid out in a special way and requires you to memorize suits and numbers and pulling apart cards without giving it away."

Nonsense.

MilkmanDansays...

OK, that explanation and video are clearly the answer.

One element that I want to confirm is this: you've got evens face up one direction, and odds face up the other direction -- so that precludes the ability to allow the viewer to examine the cards before or after the trick, right?

I guess that the confusion / surprise from "guessing the correct card" acts as sleight of hand and keeps the mark off balance for long enough to get the cards back in the pack, so it doesn't matter much. But I'd imagine that you'd get people asking to see the cards *all the time*, so it would be a bit more fun if you could allow them to inspect them.

Still, thanks for the explanation!

Fusionautsaid:

I actually have a deck of cards that is prepared so that you can do this trick. {snip}

lucky760says...

That's right! And you have to be careful about not letting the viewers see the underside of your deck.

And upon re-watching this video I see that at the very end a low camera angle reveals that face-showing cards are visible underneath while the same are visible from above.

Busted!

MilkmanDansaid:

that precludes the ability to allow the viewer to examine the cards before or after the trick, right?

robbersdog49says...

That is one method, but it is possible to do it with a planted card rather than a full deck.

This is my little brother's trick that he tends to do if someone finds out he's a magician and asks the inevitable 'show us a trick then!'

When he did it to me it was at our parents house. He came into the room, put his bag (a back pack) in the middle of the floor and sat down on the sofa. He then turned to me and did the imaginary pack spiel, just like Rose does in the video. I choose a card and announce it to the room.

He then tells me to go to his bag and look through it for his wallet. I find the wallet and take it out of the bag. It's not a big bag and there's only one wallet. He then tells me to open it and look through the card slots until I find a playing card. I do so, there's only one card. Predictably it's the card I've chosen.

There's no trick deck and I'm pretty sure it's not a trick wallet. He didn't handle the bag or the wallet after he put the bag down in the middle of the floor and sat down.

He won't tell me how it's done, but I've seen him do it numerous times to numerous people. It's always the same method although if he's out in public he might just keep his bag on his shoulder rather than put it on the floor and he'll handle his wallet and show the card, but in a way so that everyone can see what he's doing. I've asked him about that and the handling isn't necessary for the trick. the method is the same whether he's handling the bag/wallet or not.

He's a magician who designs tricks for other magicians. He's worked as a technical advisor for magic TV shows, designing props and methods. He specialises in mentalism. He doesn't talk that much about how the tricks are done. He'll help me out if I'm guessing along the right lines but I don't push for answers too much. I've done a little magic myself when younger, but nothing on his level.

The trick deck is just one way of doing this effect, but it's not the only way.

Fusionautsaid:

I actually have a deck of cards that is prepared so that you can do this trick. To prep the deck you sand the back of every card so that there is a bit of a rough surface. When the backs of two cards are placed against each other they will stick together if enough pressure is applied but will slide apart if you ease off.

Cards are paired together so that they add up to fifteen (back to back) and suits are paired together as well (clubs with diamonds and hearts with spades). For instance you would pair the 2 of Diamonds with the King of Clubs, the 3 of Hearts with the Queen of Spades, the 4 of Spades with the Jack of Hearts, the 5 of Clubs with the 10 of Diamonds et cetera... Aces are paired with each other.

When you set up the deck you set it up so that all of the clubs and hearts are on one side and if you flip the deck over you will see all of the diamonds and spades. A spare joker is used to mark which sides has the spades and diamonds and must be face down so it's back is seen when you pull the deck out. If the victim call out a diamond or spade you flip the deck over and find the corresponding card and the deck will look normal because of the joker's backside. If the victim calls out hearst or clubs you pull out the deck and remove the joker saying "oh, ho ho. How'd this get here?" and then find the corresponding card.

Just make sure that you sit down to do the trick so that people don't see that back of your deck...


Is my explanation okay? It's kind of a weird trick...

Edit: okay I got it kind of wrong but this video explains it waaaay better:

https://youtu.be/yUo32TSZES4?t=6s

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