and the police were confiscating phones for 6 mos.there are some states where you are required to identify yourself,minn is not one of them.

so what was the problem?
was it lack of compliance which he was not legally required to do?
or was he just being plain uppity?

im sure we shall hear from the cop apologist squad.
but first...
lets see some papers please.

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The police were called in when a local rent a cop complained that he was supposedly sitting in a private "Employees Only" area and refused to leave. They dropped the charges only when several witnesses confirmed that Chris Lollie (our victim) was not in any such area and that the security guard was full of shit.
http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2014/08/st_paul_police_defend_chris_lollie_arrest_lawyers_question_aggressive_use_of_force.php

I smell lawsuit. Better call Saul

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It is a common tactic with police, i believe everywhere in the world that not complying when you have every right to do so will lead to an escalated action.

Here in Finland, they have to have a search warrant for entering and searching your home. But the trick here is, there is an exception in the law. Basically it says that in special circumstances, they don't need a warrant. Refusing a search can be considered as suspicious, a special circumstance and hey presto: they can now search your home. The loophole is there originally to stop destroying evidence or to give possibility to stop domestic abuse. As such, it is logical but how it is being used in conjunction with non-compliance, is just wrong.

I am fucking irate watching this. For fuck's sake...

"You're going to jail."
"Why am I going to jail? What did I do?"
"You didn't talk to me, so you're going to jail."

Seriously?

Now you can go to jail for sitting somewhere by yourself minding your own business. That's unbelievable and just disgusting.

Yes, it might have gone a different way if he'd "complied more" with the nazis, but he didn't have to and they shouldn't have required more of him when he was not accused of doing anything.

Sometimes a little common sense goes a long way. Are you legally obligated to tell your name to a cop? Nope. Would the situation have escalated if the guy had simply told them his name? Most likely not. They would have had a conversation and then left. No handcuffs, no tazing, no arrest. The cops certainly weren't justified in their actions but again, does it really make sense to antagonize someone who can taze/shoot/arrest you? Especially when it can be avoided with minimal effort?

As a father, he should have taken the most reasonable course of action, even if it isn't one that he's legally obligated to take. Sometimes it just makes more sense to swallow your pride and move on. Seems like he was more interested in getting hits on Youtube.

Cops have a lot of discretion when it comes to making arrests. In general, people who act civilly when questioned by the police go on their way. People who make a fuss, even when innocent of any wrongdoing, talk themselves into an arrest on the basis of acting in such a way that a disorderly conduct arrest becomes imminent. Loud, boisterous, foul language will get you arrested plenty fast.

In many cases I would agree with that, nearly always when it's in public, but what about when the person calmly simply does not comply (knowing that's their right as a citizen)? That can also get you arrested. What if it's in a private home, that's been wrongly 'invaded' with massive force? Most people could not control their mouths when their family is being manhandled and threatened, especially when it's by the people paid to 'protect and serve' them. I know it's a 'rare' thing, but does happen repeatedly, seemingly weekly if not more often.

Contempt of cop is not an arrest-able offence, but it's often the reason for arrest. I hope you will concede that's an issue. More so when the cops blatant lies and abuse of power are the reason for the outburst, as in this case.

They have a lot of discretion and in this case they don't deserve it (mainly the big guy who I think was the one who escalated the encounter and tased the victim). The increase in cell phone video cameras are making these wrongful arrest cases more common every day thankfully.

'People who make a fuss' This goes back to the discretion issue, but talking yourself into an arrest when not guilty is really the crime of the officer (unlawful arrest). How about the right to not have police make a fuss with people?

Cops do have a lot of discretion, and in this case it would seem they didn't bother using any of it. I'm willing to bet the cops didn't even bother to find out what was going on, a little asking around and they would have found out that he was in a public place and had every right to be there, this could have been solved in minutes rather than months. And the cop who told him he was going to jail sounded positively excited about it, it was pretty sickening.

Maybe it's just my own naivete, but I would love to imagine that there was a time when being arrested was a little more formal than just having some cop blindside you like they did Eric Garner. Like maybe the cop actually told you you were under arrest, and gave you a chance to submit to the authority that he represented (NOT embodied) and maybe even mentioned what putative offense you might be arrested for, and had some rationale for it that the supreme court might recognize.

Even if that time never existed, it might arrive some day if enough cops exercising their fascistic discretion have their feet held to the fire of public scrutiny.

Godspeed, Chris Lollie.