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I think part of it must have been cut off. Christians are the most anti-pro-environmental people around, they are the ones most defending the giant corporations fight against the science of climate change. Fox News and the Republican party say it is junk, so they say it is all junk. Which I find odd for the same reason Louis CK notes in the video, if He was real and came back, He'd be upset that they didn't take better care of the Earth. They seemed to have forgotten how good stewardship works... it wouldn't matter if climate change science was BS, taking better care of the environment would be the right thing to do from a Biblical perspective, yet many if not most don't care. I've been told, "It doesn't matter anyhow as Jesus is coming again soon"... as if that is reason enough not to be a good steward of what He apparently gave them to watch over... It just boggles my mind how far disconnected from any sort of logical thought train that the vast majority of them seem to be on... and I don't mean where it contradicts the Bible, but where logic would follow the Bible and yet is still ignored as the vast right wing media machine tells them to...

I would think that if the Bible says to be a good steward of the Earth and the right wing media machine and Republican party says profits matter more, then I'd question the Republican party and right wing media machine. I would think that if Jesus said the rich won't inherit the kingdom of God, that we were to take care of the sick and the poor and needy, and the Republican party and right wing media machine said, no, we need to let the rich keep more of the money they made by not paying their workers a living wage and punish those working for them by taking away benefits that help them survive, then I would question that message... oh wait, I did. Which is why I changed from a Republican to a Libertarian (defending Fox News and bashing evolution and the whole bit) and eventually to the Liberal I am today. Everything the right wing folks do in the so called name of God is in contradiction to the teachings of the Bible... save perhaps abortion, the solution of which isn't laws restricting it, but affordable health care and education, two things they are against providing...

Profits are important because w/o profit, nothing else is possible. If you want to affect change in the world, it takes money to do so.

Funny, but is about as deep as a piece of paper. Does Louis plant his own corn? Fuck no, motherfucker! He's talks for a living, it's a job, motherfucker! (just using his vernacular)

I think he has a point. If I believed in the imminent return of an angry & judgmental God to the current western world I'd be absolutely shitting myself all the time.

*religion win. All those times Jesus is quoted as lambasting hypocrites? Louis CK is all over that in the modern era. Well done.

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I think there is some definite hyperbole in your statement but I agree with what you've said on the main. Christians are called to be good stewards and we have largely ignored that command. As a former hardcore environmentalist I have a first hand understanding of what the tension is on either side. On one hand, the thought process behind the environmental movement is that this is the only Earth we have, and we must zealously protect its treasures because they cannot be replaced. Once they're gone, they are gone forever. On the other hand, the thought process behind more than a few Christians is that this Earth was given to us by God, and we have dominion over it. There is no reason to worry about destroying it because God Himself will be destroying it upon the second coming of Christ. The Earth will then be recreated and it will be overseen by God going into eternity.

These points of view are exactly contrary to one another and can hardly be reconciled. For the Christian, the tension the bible gives us is between steward and subdue. We are not only instructed to be good stewards, but also to subdue the Earth. Environmentalists hate the very thought of that and would prefer that human interference in natural affairs would approach zero. In the extreme of environmentalist thought, human beings are entirely expendable and should be culled until they do not significantly impact the biosphere. This is of course is entirely foreign to the mind of the Christian, who understands that the very point of the Earth is to be a habitation for human kind. Christians on the main are much more interested in the welfare of other human beings rather than animals and see animals as expendable. An animal has no eternal destiny spoken of in the bible, but human beings do.

As to where I stand, I care about animals and the environment. The issue of global warming is irrelevant to me; it's a doomsday scenario with no teeth. Even if it is somewhat true, it is not how the world is going to end. But I do care and so do many Christians. I don't think we should just run roughshod over this world and inflict undue suffering on creatures to exact some kind of profit. Rather, I think we should intelligently manage our resources and distribute them equitably. I think we could probably learn a lot from the Indians who managed to live harmoniously with their environment. On the other hand, I am not against drilling or logging or anything else that environmentalists hate, within reason. Unfortunately, human beings are not reasonable creatures; they are sinful and greedy to exploit anything they can for personal benefit. There is irrational hatred on both sides, and they are both being played by the adversary. I know people on the inside of the environmental movement and the infighting that goes on because of the gigantic egos and hypersensitivity is almost comical. Most seem to be in it for their own glory and they get in the way of anyone who actually wants to make a difference.

Christians should be setting the example but some of what you're dealing with isn't born again, spirit filled people, but apostate, carnal Christianity. Around 80 percent of the country professes to follow the Savior, but when you ask very specific questions like are you born again, justified by grace, etc the number goes down into the 30's. This isn't an excuse but it is the reality.

Really? Really? Nothing is possible without monetary profit. You really going to stand by that statement?

...or the threat of losing it.

Just to help clarify something here, Christian, Republican and hard core conservative is not necessarily an interchangeable label. Just like I would say that Democrat, Satanist or Atheist is not an interchangeable label. (I'm joking about the Satanist part, but you can't tag just a section with sarcasm)
You can be one and not the other. As for me... I'm the worlds only Republicratic CathoSataneist!

Gandhi was rich?

There's a whole shitload of tribal societies that would like to debate you on that point.

Thanks Lantern53 for another gem.

Louie C.K. never really amazed me until Carlin finally passed. Now he is one of the few who border between offensive and genius.

ou boy, religion and politics on a comments board #walloftext amirite people?

Let me help you reconcile these points:

One is both common sense and likely to lead to our children and descendants having the chance to live happily in their time.

The other is narcissitic infanticide, sacrificing the unborn's chance for peace to the current individual's cowardly failure to accept the obvious realities of existence.

Think of it like all those thousands of child rape victims of the Catholic Church: is it better they scream and weep in dark corners so weak housewives can continue to find 'solice' in the Roman policitian with the giant hat? Should jewish & muslim children be forcibly genitally mutiliated for the mental delusions of their parents?

Only a religious or psychotic person would even dare pontificate over how to reconcile these questions.
For the rest of us it's so, so easy: stop wrecking the planet and raping the kids.

Well, you mention the unborn, yet on the main the thinking in environmental circles is that we have too many humans and that the Earth is unable to support them. Therefore, abortion (over 70 million unborn children murdered in the US since the 70s) is to be embraced, and even more extreme methods of population control are not only openly pondered, but have resulted in mass sterilization programs which have been mercilessly implemented in third world countries. Here are some of the greater atrocities committed in the name of preserving "mother earth":

http://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/the-population-control-holocaust

Among the intellectual elite, human lives are reduced to being paid the same consideration as one might the lowly cockroach. Contrary to your assertion, it is the Christian who affirms the sanctity of life and the inherent value of every person, whereas it is the opponents of Christianity that affirm infanticide:

Dawkins approves of infanticide

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFWt9cj3uj4

If you would reread my prior comment, you will see that I am in agreement with @RFlagg that we should be good stewards of the Earth. However, the mania of the environmentalists is to devalue human life and subordinate it to their misguided notions of preservation. The sickness of this world is sin, and the only one who can cure it is God. This world will continue to degenerate until the Lord returns because it is in rebellion against its Creator:

2 Chronicles 7:14

if my people who are called by my name humble themselves, and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land.

The tension between steward and subdue...

Well, let's put it this way, in 50 years time when the sea comes and subdues most of the coastal land, when we run out of oil and our air is choked and toxic, when we face the real possibility of eating bugs instead of beef (insects have a much higher protein ratio for investment then cattle do) or pan-global starvation, you might want to think about which of the two is more important if you can pull your head out of your self righteous ass...

The bible talks about the sins of the father, well the lack of environmental concern these days is a sin and it will be visited upon our children.