Keith Olbermann's WTF!?! - "DON'T CALL ME LIZ!!"

MSNBC's Keith Olbermann's WTF!?! - "DON'T CALL ME LIZ!!" - 06/18/09 - Washington, D.C., political insiders were treated Wednesday morning to an unforgettable exchange of 19 e-mails. The players: an aide at McBee Strategic, a major lobbying firm, and one Elizabeth Becton, scheduling secretary to Rep. Jim McDermott, D-Wash.
longdesays...

I find that when people don't have much of a life or career, they develop an oversized ego, or exagerrate the importance of the mundane.

E.g., the other day, I stopped at a gas station, and picked up a bottle of water. I paid with my checkcard, which has my picture. Rather than accept my payment and hand me my goddamn bottlewater, she made a big production out of the fact that I did not sign my checkcard.

Sigh, to placate the ******, I signed my card, then promptly erased it when I returned to my car.

Skeevesays...

>> ^longde:
I find that when people don't have much of a life or career, they develop an oversized ego, or exagerrate the importance of the mundane.
E.g., the other day, I stopped at a gas station, and picked up a bottle of water. I paid with my checkcard, which has my picture. Rather than accept my payment and hand me my goddamn bottlewater, she made a big production out of the fact that I did not sign my checkcard.
Sigh, to placate the , I signed my card, then promptly erased it when I returned to my car.


While this Liz person definitely blew this out of proportion and acted like a complete buffoon, even if your checkcard has your picture, a checkcard/creditcard/debit card without a signature are not valid and it is proper procedure to refuse to allow you to use it (especially after you signed it right in front of them). If someone attempts to use a card in my name I sure hope the store refuses the transaction because I haven't signed the card. I've been the victim of identity theft and embrace all the security measures, no matter how mundane.

As for the video, the poor guy did an amazing job of keeping his cool and not escalating the conflict. Good on him.

demon_ixsays...

Olbermann over-inflated this meaningless exchange between an over-sensitive semi-insane woman and the innocent-bystander. Only reason I'm upvoting is for the finale.

longdesays...

Skeeve, while that may be proper procedure technically, who does that in practice? If she wasn't satisfied that my picture was valid, why not ask for ID(which she didn't)? Signing the card doesn't make a forgery any more valid if I am using a fake card.

No, I think if she was really concerned with preventing theft/fraud, she would have asked for ID. I would have been more than happy to provide ID. But to have me only sign my card just to buy a $1.35 bottle of water says she is just being an asshole. I am a casualty in her campaign to convert the millions of people who prefer not to sign their cards.

Psycho, the reason I didn't erase the signature immediately is because have to frequent this station alot, and while I have forgotten this woman's face, I'm quite sure she would remember such an insult, and piss in my gas tank on some future date.

(and i do see the irony of berating people who blow up petty things, while blowing up a petty incident)

vairetubesays...

I don't sign my cards either. I write SEE ID in the space... and I happily present it when rarely asked, and say Thank You when I am asked.

Hehe! Can we all e-mail this lady now? Should be able to call, too.

videosiftbannedmesays...

>> ^vairetube:
I don't sign my cards either. I write SEE ID in the space... and I happily present it when rarely asked, and say Thank You when I am asked.
Hehe! Can we all e-mail this lady now? Should be able to call, too.


I do the same. And too, get rarely asked.

Paybacksays...

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Darkhandsays...

>> ^Skeeve:
>> ^longde:
I find that when people don't have much of a life or career, they develop an oversized ego, or exagerrate the importance of the mundane.
E.g., the other day, I stopped at a gas station, and picked up a bottle of water. I paid with my checkcard, which has my picture. Rather than accept my payment and hand me my goddamn bottlewater, she made a big production out of the fact that I did not sign my checkcard.
Sigh, to placate the , I signed my card, then promptly erased it when I returned to my car.

While this Liz person definitely blew this out of proportion and acted like a complete buffoon, even if your checkcard has your picture, a checkcard/creditcard/debit card without a signature are not valid and it is proper procedure to refuse to allow you to use it (especially after you signed it right in front of them). If someone attempts to use a card in my name I sure hope the store refuses the transaction because I haven't signed the card. I've been the victim of identity theft and embrace all the security measures, no matter how mundane.
As for the video, the poor guy did an amazing job of keeping his cool and not escalating the conflict. Good on him.


That's actually incorrect, at least here in the state of NJ. When you don't sign your credit card it means the person needs to ask you for your photo ID. Once you show them your photo ID they are ok to complete the transaction.

I intentionally do not sign my credit cards because I want people to ask for my photo ID. You consent to the subscriber agreement as soon as you call the activation hot line and activate your card, signing your card in addition to that is just icing on the cake.

Fadesays...

signing on the card is completely meaningless since you keep possesion of the card.
A signature is a representation of your person. If you are there in 'person' then a signature is redundant.

carrotsays...

Who okayed that voiceover? I feel like as funny as that was, the extreme pain of having to sit through five minutes of those caricature voices greatly diminished it for me.

MaxWildersays...

I wish Olbermann would tone down the shtick. It's lame. I didn't get the impression that she was yelling in her emails, but it is humorous that she couldn't let it go. Not humorous enough for an entire pre-taped production, though.

Shepppardsays...

Not really, I've worked man-shier jobs at bestbuy and a couple other retail stores, the reason you sign the card isn't for proof of ownership, you're supposed to check the signatures.

Most store clerks don't really care or check, but sometimes when you're signing, look up, odds are they're watching you sign your name very closely to see if there's anything abnormal about it (For instance, If a name starts with a big grandiose letter on the signature on the card, but they just quickly dashed it off, then that's considered suspicious)

A couple of times I had to decline the card because the person signing used a different signature all-together, it was a spouse of sorts and they shared a joint account but you have to use your own card, you can't sign your name when using your spouses card, in that case they have to sign.

There's actually a lot more to the signing then people think, it's one of the reason's i'm against having the chip cards. People have been able to find peoples pins out for years, but your average crook won't be able to copy someones signature that they've been working on for their entire life.

However, showing I.d. instead of a signature is just as valid as a signature in my mind, just so long as there's one or the other there.

>> ^Fade:
signing on the card is completely meaningless since you keep possesion of the card.
A signature is a representation of your person. If you are there in 'person' then a signature is redundant.

poolcleanersays...

LOL! I have a friend named Elizabeth who also hates the name Liz. In fact, she prefers "Eli" for a nick. If you call her Liz, she freaks out. What the hell is up with that? I have a pretty common name, as well, but I could give two shits how someone refers to me.

This has gotta be a chick thing.

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