The only thing in my mind through the whole discussion was me visualizing pounding in the face of everyone responsible.

Just.. utterly despicable.
I can only hope that those responsible see time in jail, and experience the same thing they put that poor young girl through, night after night, for a long time.

Anyone who walked past that scene and offered no help is just as guilty, if not more so.

How are the "watchers" any different from knowing that your son committed a robbery and then you chose not to turn him in?

How exactly does aiding and abetting work in the law?

Read that, understand it, and work to not be one of those Bystanders.

I extend my umbrella of protection to a victim affected by felonious behavior.

But because of our litigious society the severity of the crime affects how fast I will offer my aid.

But I am a former Security Officer so I have training to avoid the effects of Bystander or Responsibility diffusion.

The advice below is not legal counsel and I am not a lawyer, I make it known that I write this statement under the 1st ammendment as freedom of expression. Take the below statements as advice only.

1) Call the police
2) Understand the situation, understand who is the criminal and who is not.
3) Survey the lay of the land to ensure that you do not become a victim.
4) Aid the victim of a Felony by the means that you see fit. These situations are fluid. There are many ways to deal with it. Yelling things like "FIRE" or "GUN! GUN! GUN!" or anything that may cause fear amongst the criminals. The goal is to get the criminals to flee the scene long enough for you to be able to retrieve the victim and remove them from the hostile zone.

Finally, do not resort to violence unless, by your own judgment, deem it necessary. You and you alone will be responsible for your actions. How to deal with violent criminals: act swiftly and tumultuously. If the violence lasts more than a few moments regroup away from the fray and return with a new strategy. The goal is to assert authoritative pacification of the situation by force (meaning the first criminal to attack you should be utterly destroyed). You want the criminals to know you are top dog. Anyone of them who so much as thinks about fucking with you now should be swiftly dealt with. Remember, defend yourself and the victim, of a felony, only when attacked. Do not at any point go on the offensive, if the criminals run let them flee. Do not ever give chase. Your first responsibility is to secure the victims rescue. Never ever turn your back on a criminal.

Remember it should never come to violence, always start with the 4th step, screaming "FIRE" or "GUN! GUN! GUN!" is the Ninja way. Confusion works best when the defender has a level head, and every one else is running around in panic.

Well, it's a liberal-run city in a liberal-run state.

The important thing is that no one anywhere had a gun, thus ensuring the safety of everyone!

Well, almost everyone.

Now they're going to install surveillance cameras? I don't use the word "fascism" lightly, but this is just like that book, 1984!

Ya, if London has taught us anything, cameras don't stop crime.

Genovese Syndrome

I personally snap. Don't know why really, but i do. I saw a man slap his daughter in a mall once and yelled at him so loud half the mall froze and looked at me.

>> ^gtjwkq:
Genovese Syndrome


Actually, in the just-published Superfreakonomics, they look at the Kitty Genovese case, and discover that there are a great many misperceptions, not the least of which is that people DID call the police. The first attack, a stabbing, happened out in the open, but due to the poor lighting, it seemed to be little more than a domestic dispute, and when he was challenged by a bystander, the attacker seemed to flee the scene. Genovese staggered into an enclosed area, while her attacker moved his car to get it out of sight. He then returned, and proceeded to rape and kill her with zero witnesses. The point of the chapter, I suppose, is that a great deal of scholarship relies upon the version of events first reported in the New York Times (that there were three separate attacks with over a dozen witnesses) that were later refuted by police.

Haha...in Richmond? There are more guns in Richmond than in Texas. I'm sure quite a few gathered had guns. That goes to explain fear in helping the girl, but not the failure to call the cops.


>> ^quantumushroom:
Well, it's a liberal-run city in a liberal-run state.
The important thing is that no one anywhere had a gun, thus ensuring the safety of everyone!
Well, almost everyone.

Obviously there's a societal reason at work here. Probably along the lines of nobody trust the Police because they give so many reasons not to trust them. I'm not excusing it, I'm just saying there's probably many things that can be done to help make the society better and they're not being done.

Despicable horrible act...committed by people, who live in a community that accepts this. There's gotta be a way to fix it.

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if she was wearing a burqa this wouldn't have happened

Not condoning AT ALL, but why not question the judgment of the girl also? She left the prom, walked to a secluded area, and consumed alcohol. You can't walk through a rain storm without expecting to get wet. Half the responsibility belongs to her.

Half? Not taking precautions to protect yourself isn't wise...but it isn't taking part in the crime itself. Take another example. Leaving your doors unlocked is unwise, but it isn't robbery. To say that she is criminally liable to her own rape is madness.

>> ^timtoner:
>> ^gtjwkq:
Genovese Syndrome

Actually, in the just-published Superfreakonomics, they look at the Kitty Genovese case, and discover that there are a great many misperceptions, not the least of which is that people DID call the police. The first attack, a stabbing, happened out in the open, but due to the poor lighting, it seemed to be little more than a domestic dispute, and when he was challenged by a bystander, the attacker seemed to flee the scene. Genovese staggered into an enclosed area, while her attacker moved his car to get it out of sight. He then returned, and proceeded to rape and kill her with zero witnesses. The point of the chapter, I suppose, is that a great deal of scholarship relies upon the version of events first reported in the New York Times (that there were three separate attacks with over a dozen witnesses) that were later refuted by police.


Pretty interesting. I'd like to think that I'd be the one to call 911 if I was ever a witness to such an event, even before I was aware of the Genovese Case. I just think I would consider the notion that with a crowd of witnesses, most will think that someone else has already taken care of the problem.

The girl is 15 so she is a minor-- I would charge all those watching which is everyone with watching child pornography.

Put all of these irresponsible jack-offs behind bars, ALL of them and let then think hard of their choice of viewing habits.

That none of the "watchers" took action (911) means to me that EVERY girl and woman in Richmond was the victim.

>> ^quantumushroom:
Well, it's a liberal-run city in a liberal-run state.
The important thing is that no one anywhere had a gun, thus ensuring the safety of everyone!
Well, almost everyone.


But it was in a high school with Latinos, QM. I'm almost certain all 12 of those innocent bystanders were packin'.

"Half? Not taking precautions to protect yourself isn't wise...but it isn't taking part in the crime itself. Take another example. Leaving your doors unlocked is unwise, but it isn't robbery. To say that she is criminally liable to her own rape is madness."


Can you read? I NEVER said she was criminally liable, but she IS responsible. All I was pointing out was that no one was mentioning the girls responsibility in the matter. That is one of the biggest problems now days, no one wants to take responsibility for their own actions or decisions, no matter how destructive they may be. Of course I blame a lot of that on scuzzy lawyers...

I think this goes beyond the bystander effect and apathy.

Probably a gang initiation. Even if it's just a wannabe gang.

The guy from the school board says the upcoming surveillance system would have caught the crime earlier but I'm guessing, if the system was in place, these kids wouldn't have sat down in front of the camera to get drunk in the first place. This crime would have just taken place elsewhere.

I don't think the girl bears much responsibility. Even in a town as rough as Richmond, noone expects to be beaten and gang raped in front of a crowd. The girl was doing what teenagers across the country do at proms.

Despicable horrible act...committed by people, who live in a community that accepts this. There's gotta be a way to fix it.

Yeah. Napalm.

"Poverty" will be the standard excuse given for these animals' behavior, with "racism" a close second.

No matter. A society without martial spirit always falls prey to scum like this, before it falls for good.

What do they mean all the bystanders did nothing? That's BS! I was masturbating.

Does no one know how to raise a responsible human being with a conscience at this point?

>> ^Xax:
Does no one know how to raise a responsible human being with a conscience at this point?


Not without black magic or voodoo.

While the story is just down right disgusting, a few things caught my attention.

Near the beginning the reporter mentions she walked with someone she knew, I presume as in a friend and then consumed alcohol? So did this second person leave before the assault or did this person also fail to report the assault? I can't really see why she would drink alone, at 15 you tend to be drinking to show off.

The other thing is the way the news anchor follows the story, "What if they were cheering it on?", I mean really? Is that really even worth mentioning, lacked taste if you ask me, the story is bad enough in itself, it didn't need any sensationalism.

TerryF: That is such a ridiculous statement to stand by, it's not much further than saying women who wear provocative clothing deserve to be raped or lead people to rape them. It is not and never will be the responsibility of the victim to not get raped, please don't forget what rape is.

Being aware of the crime and neglecting to call the police IS aiding and abetting the crime.

>> ^Payback:
Probably a gang initiation. Even if it's just a wannabe gang.


I'm sure that's what the defense is going to claim. "They felt they had to do this to become part of the gang. They feared for their lives."

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