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newtboyYeah, well she says we're born into not being human and are all demons too.
My only question would be why is this group listening to an obvious crazy person lecture them?
eric3579Why is the "i" dotted in "RACiST" and why is it the same size as the other capital letters? Is that code for a particular kind of racist? Also did she use the green color marker to match her clothing on purpose? So many questions.
enochomg...
LMAOROFL...this is fucking hilarious!
the subtle *comedy is there if you look for it.
the entire room is a bunch of old white folk.was this presentation in a nursing home?
holy shit this is funny.
this little demon piggy is heading to paypal to give ashliegh some cash.
well done ashliegh...well done..
siftbotAdding video to channels (Comedy) - requested by enoch.
MordhausSo I am a racist, non-human demon. Gee, thanks!
HenningKOWell sure... everyone's a little bit racist.
MilkmanDanjokingly says...I assume this is the expected response? Which is then expected to be followed immediately by:
"Paypal me? SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!"
So I am a racist, non-human demon. Gee, thanks!
MekanikalLower case "i"s were popular back in the mid 90's with many software pirating groups. It doesn't have anything to do with the video but I thought I'd share. FYI.
Why is the "i" dotted in "RACiST" and why is it the same size as the other capital letters? Is that code for a particular kind of racist? Also did she use the green color marker to match her clothing on purpose? So many questions.
PlayhousePalsThat outfit is definitely wrong!
bobknight33Is this why Micheal Jackson wanted to become white?
Rich and white == RACiST?
Jinxsays...Lotsa white tears in here.
I'm guessin maybe she was trying to say that we all have, like, biases, or something? Like, quick conclusions on incomplete and/or superficial information. Useful survival technique - awkward in modern society - decidedly not demonic. Quintessentially human and not unique to white folks either. But if you define "racist" so loosely it does rather make it impotent. So were all racist and we'll never not be? Why am I listening to you then?
Drachen_Jagersays...If people accepted your views as representative of all white people, then her view would be correct.
So in that sense, she's closer to the truth than you are (performance art or not).
Is this why Micheal Jackson wanted to become white?
Rich and white == RACiST?
Imagoaminsays...This random lady said something silly, ends up on a bunch of right wing websites, then gets run off the internet by threats and harassment... now the clip from those sites ends up here? Is videosift turning into Twitchy or something?
eric3579Are you REALLY surprised it's on the sift, knowing who's posted it? Also what's Twitchy?
This random lady said something silly, ends up on a bunch of right wing websites, then gets run off the internet by threats and harassment... now the clip from those sites ends up here? Is videosift turning into Twitchy or something?
Imagoaminsays...Well, fair enough on the source. I just always viewed the sift as more left leaning and the brand of "lets point and laugh at some random young person" video beneath the general user base. Maybe I've got rose tinted glasses.
And Twitchy is a right wing website known for directing massive amounts of users at individuals online. This article covers it. http://www.cosmopolitan.com/politics/news/a45085/twitchy-harassment/
Are you REALLY surprised it's on the sift, knowing who's posted it? Also what's Twitchy?
LiquidDriftsays...The irony here...
dannym3141So if you could just let us know what types of racism and hate-speech we should look the other way over, we can begin recreating the third reich immediately...
I don't want anyone dox'd or harassed, and i especially don't want her racism to result in more racism directed at her because that will confirm her bigoted world view. But I can't wrap my head around someone defending a racist hate-speech from a *left wing point of view.* Historically, anti-racism, anti-facism, etc. was always led by the left - this is their genre!
I don't understand what her age has got to do with it other than excuse making, and i also don't understand why the sift shouldn't be allowed to post videos that are used by websites/groups we ideologically oppose. In that case, we need to take down the videos about cops killing unarmed black teenagers, because far-right websites use those videos in different contexts too. And we better show understanding and take down videos of those "random young people" from Charlottesville marching as nazis.
I know i'm being a bit sarcastic here, but seriously..... do not - DO NOT - censor videos showcasing racism according to the skin colour of the offender. That is possibly the exact worst thing you could do to help the far right cause. We are right to speak up and hopefully stop this woman going off round the country radicalising more people to her way of thinking.
Edit:
You can say that nazis marching in the street and getting violent are inherently more problematic than what is shown in this video and i agree. But the reason we have violent nazis in the streets is because we compromised and allowed acolytes for hatred like Milo to make his own hate-speeches in the name of 'respecting all viewpoints' and led by impotent neoliberal centrists who didn't want to piss off a demographic by morally challenging their views.
Well, fair enough on the source. I just always viewed the sift as more left leaning and the brand of "lets point and laugh at some random young person" video beneath the general user base. Maybe I've got rose tinted glasses.
And Twitchy is a right wing website known for directing massive amounts of users at individuals online. This article covers it. http://www.cosmopolitan.com/politics/news/a45085/twitchy-harassment/
bobknight33Then you don't know what racist is.
If people accepted your views as representative of all white people, then her view would be correct.
So in that sense, she's closer to the truth than you are (performance art or not).
Imagoaminsays...Didn't call for censorship. I just find little benefit in singling out an individual with a very tiny platform for saying something dumb. The idea that her being singled out online to be inundated with death threats and vitriol for her and her family (her and her family were doxxed over this) seems to far outweigh the benefit of "stopping this woman going around the country"... seeing as how she's one woman with basically no following and little influence. I doubt she's done many of these talks at all or will do more. (Looked it up. This talk was the only one she'd given all year. Only one on a different subject the year before. Both locally in her area.)
Spreading videos like this after someone has already been doxxed and threatened only seem to help compound the injury. And it's not ideological to me. Justine Sacco said something stupid online and got a crazy amount of blowback and lost her job for it- I don't agree with that either.
If you want to call out what you view as racism, going after the little guys for saying something a little off isn't the way. Go after people with influence. Hell, a police chief in Oklahoma was just caught running a white supremacist website and record label. That guy has direct impact on the rest of people's lives and even if they get to keep their lives in some situations.
Ashleigh is an unemployed recent college grad. The most influence she has are the 15 or 20 people who were all adults that signed up for this particular seminar. I imagine they either agreed with or are old enough to make up their own mind on what was said.
So if you could just let us know what types of racism and hate-speech we should look the other way over, we can begin recreating the third reich immediately...
I don't want anyone dox'd or harassed, and i especially don't want her racism to result in more racism directed at her because that will confirm her bigoted world view. But I can't wrap my head around someone defending a racist hate-speech from a *left wing point of view.* Historically, anti-racism, anti-facism, etc. was always led by the left - this is their genre!
I don't understand what her age has got to do with it other than excuse making, and i also don't understand why the sift shouldn't be allowed to post videos that are used by websites/groups we ideologically oppose. In that case, we need to take down the videos about cops killing unarmed black teenagers, because far-right websites use those videos in different contexts too. And we better show understanding and take down videos of those "random young people" from Charlottesville marching as nazis.
I know i'm being a bit sarcastic here, but seriously..... do not - DO NOT - censor videos showcasing racism according to the skin colour of the offender. That is possibly the exact worst thing you could do to help the far right cause. We are right to speak up and hopefully stop this woman going off round the country radicalising more people to her way of thinking.
Edit:
You can say that nazis marching in the street and getting violent are inherently more problematic than what is shown in this video and i agree. But the reason we have violent nazis in the streets is because we compromised and allowed acolytes for hatred like Milo to make his own hate-speeches in the name of 'respecting all viewpoints' and led by impotent neoliberal centrists who didn't want to piss off a demographic by morally challenging their views.
newtboyYou miss the point.
This video was posted to show you what us lefties really think so you can be informed and join the next right wing free speech rally. Don't forget to wear your Doc Martin's.
BTW-you said-"If you want to call out what you view as racism, going after the little guys for saying something a little off isn't the way"
If you think this is only racism if viewed in a certain critical way or is only a little off, you clearly don't know what the word means and need to look it up. Her statement could be the definition in the dictionary. Saying 'all' (insert race here) 'are non human demons' is hyper racist and completely batshit insane, not only racist if viewed in one particular light, not just a little off. Wow.
Didn't call for censorship. I just find little benefit in singling out an individual with a very tiny platform for saying something dumb. The idea that her being singled out online to be inundated with death threats and vitriol for her and her family (her and her family were doxxed over this) seems to far outweigh the benefit of "stopping this woman going around the country"... seeing as how she's one woman with basically no following and little influence. I doubt she's done many of these talks at all or will do more. (Looked it up. This talk was the only one she'd given all year. Only one on a different subject the year before. Both locally in her area.)
Spreading videos like this after someone has already been doxxed and threatened only seem to help compound the injury. And it's not ideological to me. Justine Sacco said something stupid online and got a crazy amount of blowback and lost her job for it- I don't agree with that either.
If you want to call out what you view as racism, going after the little guys for saying something a little off isn't the way. Go after people with influence. Hell, a police chief in Oklahoma was just caught running a white supremacist website and record label. That guy has direct impact on the rest of people's lives and even if they get to keep their lives in some situations.
Ashleigh is an unemployed recent college grad. The most influence she has are the 15 or 20 people who were all adults that signed up for this particular seminar. I imagine they either agreed with or are old enough to make up their own mind on what was said.
Imagoaminsays...Yeah, I said that because she is taking a real concept, implicit bias everyone deals with and our socialization having biased viewpoints ingrained in it, and playing it up to excessive shock values. It's a stupid way to teach anyone about those things.
And I don't read her statement as literally as say, a KKK member saying black people are subhuman, but more as purposefully exaggerated statements like "men are trash".
She said some stupid shit, but somehow an unemployed 26 year old saying stupid shit doesn't particularly worry me, seeing as she has such little power to effect anyone's life. She shouldn't be teaching this shit to people, but I'm not going to lose any sleep about her saying stupid shit, like millions of people do day to day but you aren't privy to because they're not being filmed.
You miss the point.
This video was posted to show you what us lefties really think so you can be informed and join the next right wing free speech rally. Don't forget to wear your Doc Martin's.
BTW-you said-"If you want to call out what you view as racism, going after the little guys for saying something a little off isn't the way"
If you think this is only racism if viewed in a certain critical way or is only a little off, you clearly don't know what the word means and need to look it up. Her statement could be the definition in the dictionary. Saying 'all' (insert race here) 'are non human demons' is hyper racist and completely batshit insane, not only racist if viewed in one particular light, not just a little off. Wow.
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