Prediction for an outcome of the Occupy Movement
How will this protesting movement end? What are your thoughts and predictions?
What will happen if this continues up to the elections?
Here's my thoughts for outcomes
1) It fizzles out. A major world event takes up the headlines and people tickle away losing interest
2) The winning president at the election promises to investigate 'Change' People cheer and disperse regardless of actual change.
3) Occupy Wins: Lets say Obama steps to the podium tonight to make orders that satisfy the occupy movement.
He opens his mouth: What is his command?
4) The 1% wins. Hostility increases. More people are attacked and arrested. Protesters fight back.... maybe even take action to damage a wall street building. The 99% get likened to domestic terrorists. Anti-terrorism powers like the Patriot Act are used to take control and remove the threat.
What will happen if this continues up to the elections?
Here's my thoughts for outcomes
1) It fizzles out. A major world event takes up the headlines and people tickle away losing interest
2) The winning president at the election promises to investigate 'Change' People cheer and disperse regardless of actual change.
3) Occupy Wins: Lets say Obama steps to the podium tonight to make orders that satisfy the occupy movement.
He opens his mouth: What is his command?
4) The 1% wins. Hostility increases. More people are attacked and arrested. Protesters fight back.... maybe even take action to damage a wall street building. The 99% get likened to domestic terrorists. Anti-terrorism powers like the Patriot Act are used to take control and remove the threat.
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I hope it's the tickle option.
Most likely 4
They'll probably deal with it the same way the Police dealt with the rioting here in England during the summer. They'll sit back, wait for it to die down & then make arrests based on the thousands of videos that people have put online & surveillance camera evidence. If this does happen, all I can say to our American friends is prepare yourselves for the same CCTV EXPLOSION we've had over here for the last 10-12 years.
The "one percent" won't take it lying down & this is the perfect excuse for them to "give more powers to the Police" and "increase video surveillance in the name of public safety"
A manufacturer will produce novelties and sell them online and make a lot of money.
People will go back home and take a shower for half hour.
The winter cold will drive people away, you have winter there right ?
Everything will be as it was three months ago with people being angry, nothing being done and a lot of empty promises made.
i've been involved in my local occupy movement, this is my opinion.
5) nothing changes in the immediate, but communities are created and begin to solve their own problems locally. texas occupies are working on online actions and compiling lists of local, independent businesses to disperse ... encouraging people do their xmas shopping there. the goal of the online ops for several occupies we're working with (online) is to cut into 4th and 1st quarter sales. they're starting to work with permaculture farms and local farms and community garden activists. these ideas and works are instantly shared with other occupy groups. these ideas are shared instantly online to people who support the cause but can't camp out on the sidewalk indefinentely. I don't think occupy will compel any real policy change in the immediate. it would take a constitutional amendment to meet their major demand. perhaps politicans will begin to adjust their rhetoric a bit, but the collective political conscience of these groups is high enough to see through that. nothing major will happen. but, i do think communities are being made. and communities are what change people lives.
also, to address the winter statements.... texas occupy is working with our friends in northern states to invite them down here for the winter! i'm sure other states with more moderate winters are doing the same. they may have to migrate, but i dont think it's going away that quickly.
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The politicians are already beginning to pay lip service to understanding the protestors' complaints, so I imagine that they'll soon begin saying that they're looking into how to fix the problems. On the other hand, it's going to get cold soon in many places, and the fizzling will start then. So, it's just a question of which happens first. I imagine that they'll both kind of happen at the same time.
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this. http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/oct/19/naomi-wolf-arrest-occupy-wall-street
shit like this will continue to happen, people will revolt.
naomi wolf, naomi klein and chris hedges are people who have covered revolutions all over the world. they all pretty much agree there is something here. when the police get sick of arresting middle aged women in evening gowns, a revolution will begin.
Riots in the streets, Storm the Legislature, Kick the politicians out on their a$$es, Bankrupt Wall Street Bankers and Big Business Corporations...
Oh, whoops, I thought we were listing the things that wouldn't happen because in the end, the general populous is too lazy and scared to stand up for their rights. They are all too close to bankruptcy and loosing their homes, The People are too scared of loosing everything they have spent a lifetime building. Debt has enslaved the people and it is being used to control them and keep them subservient. The majority won't start to rise up until more and more people have gone bankrupt or at least finally feel it's a lost cause.
As long as "The Majority" of people feel like they may be able to hold on to what they have, they won't take to the streets in desperation. The youth are trying to get a foothold and most are trying legitimately, those that continually failed are taking to the streets but the majority is still entrenched in "The System" and influence by their parents and the lazy generations that have come up since the 70s revolutionaries. (IE: my generation [X])
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5 as listed above by peggedbea. It takes more people for a revolution and everyone I know still look up to wall street as the people who have the right idea
Because the international banking system is global, so too are the protests. The magnitude of the protests will have some relation to how screwed over the average citizen feels. For example there are lots of good reasons for people in the united states to be pissed off, but in the entire country of 300+Million, less than half the protesters were reported than the Spanish city of Madrid. Just one city in a country of only 46M.
Why? I don't know. Is it the poor media coverage? Do people not realize that they have a reason to be pissed off? Or that they really can change things if they get together? I will have to let our American friends offer better insight than I can.
The last time that the income gap was this extreme was immediately followed by the Great Depression, which was immediately followed by WWII. (Presently, I see a repeat of history from about 90 years ago in charts and other data.) The recent push to refresh in military technology, be it the F-35 White Elephant or the recent $35B Canadian navy contract, are not isolated only to NorthAm militaries. And I do believe that there is potential for some kind of blowback from NATO/US involvement in Libya/Iraq/Afghanistan etc. To what extent or force the blowback will or won't be remains to be seen. I hope the my spidey-senses and my surface reading of history are both very off on this point.
My prediction is that things will get worse before they get better. The recession in the U.S. is not a double dip, because it hasn't really gotten enough better to stop being a recession. Lots of soldiers are about to come home from Iraq, many will be discharged and not be able to find other non-military work. Greece will likely default or the process of preventing default will be so complicated that it will be seen as a lesser evil as opposed to a victory for the globalized financial
casinomarkets, and some form of protest will continue or will be revived after a brief hiatus once a leak in the patchwork repair job springs true.The real wildcard in Occupy Wall Street could be the reaction of those thousands of hard-working soldiers home from a long war to a country in protest. There are certainly a lot of factors to be considered. All I can say for certain is that something will come of Occupy.
None of the above.
The #OWS must next evolve, and I think it will.
Go from an "occupy" movement to a "general strike" movement. If we can organize a few hundred people to meet at random and dance to a version of Michael Jackson's Thriller, then we can organize ourselves to make sure 100,000 people coincidentally "call in sick" when and where it is most strategic to our goals.
We can cause more damage to our enemies (I use that word specifically) by choosing not to participate in their exploitive system on a large scale basis. The ultimate goal is to be able to shut down this country at will, until the GOP starts sitting at the bargaining table.
The movement may ebb and flow...but I don't think it's going away.
Too many of us are hurting too badly to pretend all is well.
Austerity is not an option: tax the rich, end the wars, invest in America.
Above all, as Russell Simmons said, get money out of Washington.
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