Should we distinguish between NSFW videos vs. GRAPHIC videos? A vote to...

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A total of 55 votes have been cast on this poll.


As discussed here: http://videosift.com/talk/Should-we-have-a-graphic-tag

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This vote is to gather a consensus on whether the current *NSFW grading system is adequate or requires modification. Some videos display graphic images of death, violence and brutality that some regard as newsworthy while others consider it unworthy of the standards of VideoSift. The same goes for videos with explicit sexual content or language. The options are as follows:

1. *establish an enumerated list of tags for NSFW. This would add to the current *NSFW tag by appending the rating, e.g., NSFW-L (language), NSFW-S (sexual content), NSFW-V (graphic violence), etc.

2. **create a system where videos are either tagged as NSFW or GRAPHIC only. NSFW would be for content deemed a bit explicit for work, but generally accepted at home with family or friends around (naughty language, mild violence). GRAPHIC would be for content too explicit for work and possibly for friends and family (sexual content, nudity, extremely graphic violence).

3. ***create a system where videos can be tagged as NSFW, GRAPHIC or both. NSFW and GRAPHIC are defined in 2 above.

4. +Or vote for no change.
Hybrid says...

I like the enumerated idea a lot. They would be easy to convert into little icons that could replace the bigger red 'NSFW' bar that appears below and next to NSFW videos at the moment.

It would also be easier to add to, e.g. drugs etc.

kronosposeidon says...

Just get rid of the Brief and Long tags. Now that we have video duration displayed, Brief and Long are now redundant. Then you'll have room for the NSFW and Graphic tags.

Side note: The Graphic tag might displease some advertisers. They may see a brightly colored Graphic tag and immediately think it means porn. I only mention this because we've had trouble with advertisers in the past over some content. Maybe people should just put GRAPHIC in their tags.

Stingray says...

If we implement this new ratings system (in whatever form it may be), does that then extend the limitation of what will be posted here?

In other words, will porn and snuff be allowed?

I like the idea of the graphic tag, but I don't want that to be an excuse for people to start sifting what is currently not allowed here.

gwiz665 says...

Tiers is the simple way to go.

Enumeration is the thorough way to go.

NSFW has worked well so far, the only need we have at this point is to distinguish graphic, isn't it? Or can something be graphic but still be SFW? I suppose the centipede eating a mouse would go under this.

notarobot says...

NSFW should mean NSFW. That means that nudity, bad language or violence should all be candidates that can qualify a video for NSFW. To add level will over complicate a system that doesn't need complications. I don't mean to say that any or all videos with some level of those qualities must be flagged. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles shows violence, but so does "Cablegate" videos of Americans gunning down Iraqi civilians and journalists from a helicoptor. What qualifies as NSFW should be the discretion of the community.

In brief, if you would be uncomfortable showing a video to a 12 year old, then either your boss is very young or it might be NSFW.

kceaton1 says...

Umm, NSFW, is Not Safe For Work (the ratings of which are not clearly defined except for nudity an swearing). This applies to a large range a videos that are questionable to overtly NSFW videos and a small range were people are playing it in front of their staff or another setup, similar in nature. I didn't realize NSFW was meant to be a "catch all" like G, PG, PG-13, R, etc... How do we differentiate between what's is to violent and "OK" violence.

I'm not sure where else this can lead than an overall change from NSFW to a rating system. The problem becomes when we start defining what is acceptable or not. I picked enumerated, but this could lead to less posting if it becomes a hassle at any point.

/my two cents

Hybrid says...

I don't see it becoming a hassle if it was an enumerated system. When you post a video there could be a multiple choice selection of tick boxes under the question "This video contains:" and then have tick boxes for sexual content/nudity, bad language, violence etc.

taranimator says...

At first I thought the enumerated system was the way to go.
But then I thought -- that NSFW tag should be enough to remind people to take precautionary measures -- headphones, shoulder check! Or just wait 'til the coast is clear.

Deano says...

Seems a bit redundant overall to me. Most people understand the NSFW label regardless of the site they are visiting. These proposals seem like they'll simply complicate things for the casual visitor.

How about something useful like a *loud invocation? Sometimes the odd video is crazily loud and you have to rapidly turn down the volume. Advance warning would be cool.

blankfist says...

It started as a discussion about a tag for extremely graphic content, such as death in a news clip. Think Egypt's recent revolution and associated clips of police trucks mowing over protestors. Those clips are a bit more than just "not safe for work", but they're also important to a lot of us.

Since then the discussion evolved to also include an enumeration of tags introduced by @jonny, e.g., NSFW-V, NSFW-N, etc.

residue says...

Language is ok for work and home with the kids around (I use headphones), but sexual stuff is not and with the current tag system, I never know when a video starts which one it will be.

The filtering system would work more efficiently as well with a more specific nsfw tagging system. Honestly, I don't see any negatives to being more specific with the tag. Maybe there could be an option where you can choose "simple" or "advanced" nsfw tag in the options. When you sift a video, you check a box that says why it is nsfw. People with the simple options just see the same nsfw tag, people with the advanced option see an updated, more specific tag ie NSFW-L. Or maybe the same tag exists, but when you hover over it, a box appears with the specifics

RedSky says...

I almost feel like you'd be better off scraping NSFW altogether and having three icons for:

1. graphic/violence

2. language

3. nudity/sexuality

They'd be intuitive to the Videosift layman, more informative that what we have now, and are very easily interpretable with the kind of cartoon/symbol icons that TV ratings use. Thematically it would also gel with a video/clip site much better.

blankfist says...

I'm liking the delimited system. I feel like a movie could be either SFW, NSFW or Graphic. And that tells you exactly everything you need to know about the movie. NSFW means it's probably some bad language and maybe someone hitting himself in the nuts. Graphic would mean it probably contains nudity (not porn) or extreme violence such as news footage of someone getting run over by the police during a political protest.

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