Your Yard Is EVIL

In which John discusses the absolute insanity of front yards. Turf grass is the biggest irrigated crop in the US; we irrigate grass almost exclusively with drinkable water; also, you will be surprised to learn that grass is INEDIBLE. Plus, I dislike mowing the lawn when it is 115 outside.

Lots of people (particularly people who work in the lawn business) will note that turf grass is a carbon sink (particularly if you mow the lawn frequently). This is true, but there are far more efficient carbon sinks that don't require so much water.
legacy0100says...

I AGREE! This has been one of the first things I've come to question since coming to this country. That and why they put soooo much cream cheese on your bagel at Dunkin Donuts. Seriously, WTF.

REMIND ME TO PROMOTE!!!

legacy0100says...

Perhaps it is from a Anglophone cultural distinctive to keep a large area of uninhabitable lands near your home?

"Julius Caesar, in his famous account of the Gallic Wars of the 50s BC, provided readers at home with a blood-curdling description of the Germanic tribes he encountered in battle:

'The various tribes regard it as their greatest glory to lay waste as much as possible of the land around them and to keep it uninhabited. They hold it a proof of a people's valour to drive their neighbours from their homes, so that no-one dare settle near them. No discredit attaches to plundering raids outside tribal frontiers. The Germans say that they serve to keep young men in training and prevent them from getting lazy.'"

- Taken from: http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ancient/romans/romanpropaganda_article_01.shtml

rychansays...

I like my lawn

I don't use pesticides. I draw water from my well, not a municipal water supply. Groundwater levels are not threatened here and I only have to run my sprinkler system about three months a year. So, I don't think it's a huge time or resource sink.

I'm not sure we would be able to enjoy the space around my house without a lawn. I'm not about to plant an acre worth of vegetables -- 400 square feet is plenty for me. If I just let it grow naturally then it would be impassable waist high scrub in a year. I guess it might be interesting to only mow a small fraction of my yard and seed wildflowers in the rest. Not everyone in my neighborhood mows their entire yard regularly.

NinjaInHeatsays...

EVIL THY NAME IS RYCHAN!

>> ^rychan:

I like my lawn
I don't use pesticides. I draw water from my well, not a municipal water supply. Groundwater levels are not threatened here and I only have to run my sprinkler system about three months a year. So, I don't think it's a huge time or resource sink.
I'm not sure we would be able to enjoy the space around my house without a lawn. I'm not about to plant an acre worth of vegetables -- 400 square feet is plenty for me. If I just let it grow naturally then it would be impassable waist high scrub in a year. I guess it might be interesting to only mow a small fraction of my yard and seed wildflowers in the rest. Not everyone in my neighborhood mows their entire yard regularly.

spoco2says...

>> ^rychan:

I only have to run my sprinkler system about three months a year.


Holy frack! You have to use sprinklers on your lawn for a QUARTER OF THE YEAR and you think that's fine?

Do you people in the states have any concept of low impact? It truly is stunning... I mean, we here in Australia are pretty damn f*cked up too, but we're trying...

What about fricken rainwater tanks? All new houses built in Australia require them now... and guess what? They give you heaps of water for watering any lawn you may want or your veggie patch or your fruit trees, or your small wheat crop.

rychansays...

>> ^spoco2:

>> ^rychan:
I only have to run my sprinkler system about three months a year.

Holy frack! You have to use sprinklers on your lawn for a QUARTER OF THE YEAR and you think that's fine?
Do you people in the states have any concept of low impact? It truly is stunning... I mean, we here in Australia are pretty damn f cked up too, but we're trying...
What about fricken rainwater tanks? All new houses built in Australia require them now... and guess what? They give you heaps of water for watering any lawn you may want or your veggie patch or your fruit trees, or your small wheat crop.


Geesh, calm down. We actually have a shared rainwater tank here -- the groundwater that I already mentioned.

I calculated the electrical cost of running my sprinklers, and it came to 5 or 6 dollars a month. So yes, there's some carbon impact.

When I say 3 months a year, I don't mean 3 months of continuous operation, you realize? It's 2 and half hours every morning. In the Fall and Spring the grass doesn't need watering, and in the Winter it's under snow.

Anyway, if you want to yell at me for not being low impact, do so because I live 20 miles from work. I don't want to, but I don't have a choice.

Actually, I'm curious about your electrical consumption since you're shaming me for mine. I live in a state with one of the lowest per-capita carbon emission rates. I have aggressively programmed electronic thermostats and compact fluorescent lights. I run my air conditioner only about 30 days out of the year. I wonder if you're not actually living a higher impact lifestyle by trying to live in an arid area?

spoco2says...

@rychan My response is mostly due to you saying that you water that much of the year as if it's low. If that is considered low in the States then that's terrible. And they're electrical sprinkler too... 2 and a half hours of watering every morning is a HUGE amount of water, that's just insane.

Do you catch public transport to work? I live about 30Km from work, and walk to the station and then train in.

rychansays...

>> ^spoco2:

@rychan My response is mostly due to you saying that you water that much of the year as if it's low. If that is considered low in the States then that's terrible. And they're electrical sprinkler too... 2 and a half hours of watering every morning is a HUGE amount of water, that's just insane.
Do you catch public transport to work? I live about 30Km from work, and walk to the station and then train in.


We get plenty of rain here -- our groundwater levels aren't dropping, our lakes aren't draining. The water I use on my lawn isn't washing away with any chemicals (it's not washing away at all -- I don't overwater). I don't see what your objection is to drawing the water out of the ground instead of building a basin for it, other than the increased electrical demands. But as I said, I don't think those electrical demands are ridiculous.

There is no public transit near my house.

grintersays...

If people don't want to plant vegetable gardens, then what about habitat for something to live in? Lawns are a wasteland for native plant, animal, fungal, and bacteria species.
Also, I don't buy the carbon sink thing. Powered lawnmowers put out a lot of CO2. Also, a lot of cut grass decays... and that releases greenhouse gasses as well.
Oh.. and 'pesticides' were mentioned, but what about herbicide and fertilizer run off?
OhX2... and lawns are reeeaaaally ugly!

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