Second Ellicott City 'Thousand Year Storm' in 2 years

I know some of it is because they didn't fix all of their flood issues, but this level of storm is supposed to happen roughly once a millennium. Not twice in two years.

If this doesn't make you believe in climate change, I suspect nothing will until your house is under water, ice, or snow.
BSRsays...

You can tell it's fake. That's a two way street and the water is only going one way. SAD.

newtboysaid:

Fake news.
That's a liberal professional paid flood actor, not a real flood.
Don't believe the lie.

eric3579says...

(edit)

I think title and description may be wrong

"The 2016 Ellicott City cloudburst was deemed* a “thousand-year rain event” in terms of the probability of recurrence. That an event of this magnitude unfolded in the same spot, two years later, is what it is"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2018/05/28/the-second-1000-year-rainstorm-in-two-years-engulfed-ellicott-city-heres-how-it
-happened/?utm_term=.c1948c1b867b

*Which came from this https://www.weather.gov/lwx/EllicottCityFlood2016

Please correct me if i'm wrong on this.

Anom212325says...

The comments in this thread is a perfect example of people not doing their own research and just believing everything they read or hear. attach a striking video or image to a comment stating some viewpoint/reason and 3 out of 4 in this case will eat it up as truth without thinking for themselves.

BSRsays...

I'm the one out of 4, right?

Anom212325said:

The comments in this thread is a perfect example of people not doing their own research and just believing everything they read or hear. attach a striking video or image to a comment stating some viewpoint/reason and 3 out of 4 in this case will eat it up as truth without thinking for themselves.

Mordhaussays...

also @eric3579

To clarify a Thousand Year Storm isn't only going to happen once in a thousand years. There is always a probability that it can happen. Some of this could easily be 'bad luck'.

The phenomenon that created this situation is known as cell training, and happens all over the place. However, it is worthwhile noting what else they say, "...scientific studies have shown a statistically meaningful uptick in the frequency of extreme rain events over the eastern United States. Statistically, over the long term, these types of extreme floods are probably becoming more common, in areas that are normally rainy as a result of global warming."

What this means, at least the way I understand it, is that statistically in this region we can expect a higher probability of these 'xxx year storms' every time conditions are favorable for cell training style weather.

We can expect more of these types of storms, simply because the climate is in a format that creates more ideal conditions. These ideal conditions are not limited to just this type of weather, either. Gulf hurricanes, tornado alley tornadoes, and other 'regional' weather patterns are also experiencing 'ideal' conditions to allow stronger, more damaging storms to develop.

Anom212325said:

The comments in this thread is a perfect example of people not doing their own research and just believing everything they read or hear. attach a striking video or image to a comment stating some viewpoint/reason and 3 out of 4 in this case will eat it up as truth without thinking for themselves.

eric3579says...

@Mordhaus

What i was trying to say is that the thousand year rain event is not a one storm event. What makes it a thousand year rain event is that there were two of these storms in a two year period. That was my understanding. Maybe im wrong but it's what i took from that quote from the Washington Post article. The thing is the title of the article(basically same as yours) makes it awfully confusing to what's what. I give up.

Mordhausjokingly says...


eric3579said:

@Mordhaus

What i was trying to say is that the thousand year rain event is not a one storm event. What makes it a thousand year rain event is that there were two of these storms in a two year period. That was my understanding. Maybe im wrong but it's what i took from that quote from the Washington Post article. The thing is the title of the article(basically same as yours) makes it awfully confusing to what's what. I give up.

vilsays...

Is it possible that we have missed important signs of global warming wherever it has caused local weather to be uncharacteristically mild and pleasant for extended periods of time?

It actually takes three of these events in close succession to make any claim that orthodox thousand year periods were violated. Perhaps it took a thousand years to wait for the first one, and now it will not happen for another thousand years again. Who knows.

Jinxsays...

Flooding, in particular, could also be a symptom of poor drainage due to urban development as much as climate change. Possible more-so tbh.

We have better evidence of a warming climate, and indeed that it's our fault without needing to point to, err, the weather. Still, record breaking weather is what we expect from a warming cllimate, because, you know, when things change stuff happens that didn't happen so much before.

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