Woman Appalled after Discovering 'Swastika' Wrapping paper

The wrapping paper is from China, but no one even bothered to check wikipedia to see what a swastika means in Eastern religions.
dystopianfuturetodaysays...

news *fail

It's not a Nazi swastika, it's a Buddhist symbol. I learned this on a tour in Taiwan, where the street maps are filled with these little symbols, which mark the location of Buddhist temples.

MilkmanDansays...

When I first came to Thailand, I saw the occasional swastika emblazoned on things that made me double-take -- a kid's t-shirt being the one that I remember the most. When I asked Thai people about it (just politely asking, not like 'ohMyGawd, why is everyone racist WHARRGARBLE') I got the response that the symbol here isn't linked to nazism, it is a Buddhist symbol, etc., as mentioned above.

That was enough explanation for me until I started to see street vendor stands with nazi flags (red background, white circle, black swastika), eagle with swastika logos, and even motorcycle helmets in the SS soldier style with SS logos.

Now my impression is that an average Thai person doesn't associate a swastika with nazism, and might purchase some item displaying the symbol because either:
A) they don't know/care about the symbol's link to WW2/Hitler/Nazis OR any Buddhist symbology and just think it looks cool (which I tend to agree with -- it is a simple yet striking shape if you try to mentally disassociate it from any ethos etc.), or
B) they know it as a Buddhist symbol, and feel that link overrides any to nazism.

But those explanations go out the window for the vendors that sell the flags, symbols, SS posters etc. all in one location, with no "Eastern"/Buddhist swastikas in the mix.

Issykittysays...

This vid is certainly an example of some failure "news" reporting, and
LOL - I see wut u did there, tinker!

>> ^thinker247:
"Someone else could get this on Christmas Day"
Yes, some poor Jewish family may receive Christmas gifts wrapped in this.

ctrlaltbleachsays...

I remember something about the symbol being used in other cultures in grade school. Yes I did say grade school. One of the only times my edumacation didn't fail. Also coincidentally I just learned yesterday that we used to do the nazi salute here in the US to the American flag no less.

demon_ixsays...

I really don't think Fail or Lies are appropriate here. The Swastika is indeed an ancient eastern symbol, but to the vast majority in the western world, it means only the Nazi flag. They could have gone further into describing the meaning of the symbol, but this seems like a 1-2 minute news report that might have done the research but was cut short to fit a time slot.

Or maybe I'm just seeing it with a different perspective

jdbatessays...

I thought it was a sign of luck or good fortune in asia, the nazi's stole the symbol from them, it was just another one of those cult things about the nazi's. Good thing they didnt pick the cross as a symbol( nothing to be implied there).

The nazi's supposedly spent as much money on cult research as we did on the manhatten project.

I think this is just amother cultural thing that most americans will never understand, god bless their ignorance!

thinker247says...

>> ^demon_ix:
I really don't think Fail or Lies are appropriate here. The Swastika is indeed an ancient eastern symbol, but to the vast majority in the western world, it means only the Nazi flag. They could have gone further into describing the meaning of the symbol, but this seems like a 1-2 minute news report that might have done the research but was cut short to fit a time slot.
Or maybe I'm just seeing it with a different perspective


I don't think Lies is applicable, but Fail? Most certainly this was a fail. I don't care that most of the western world sees the swastika as Nazi. Most of the people in Idaho think Nickelback is a fantastic rock group. Do I not put a fail next to their name? Majority does not rule.

Besides, this is the news we're talking about. If they're reporting, they should be researching.

dystopianfuturetodaysays...

>> ^demon_ix:
I really don't think Fail or Lies are appropriate here. The Swastika is indeed an ancient eastern symbol, but to the vast majority in the western world, it means only the Nazi flag. They could have gone further into describing the meaning of the symbol, but this seems like a 1-2 minute news report that might have done the research but was cut short to fit a time slot.
Or maybe I'm just seeing it with a different perspective


It would have taken 3 seconds to clear up the mystery by saying 'Turn the Swastika 45 degrees and it's an ancient Buddhist symbol'.

MaxWildersays...

This is a prime example of infotainment purposefully trying to get the audience riled up. It would have taken less than five seconds for them to mention that swastikas have many different meanings in different cultures, and I can't believe that somebody in that newsroom hadn't heard about that fact.

"How China is turning our kids into Nazis, tonight at 11."

Ryjkyjsays...

I would've been more embarrased that I was sending my loved ones shit that I bought at "dollar mania".

And here I thought they were such a reputable institution...

I wonder if she'll ever think about the fact that the paper itself was probably made by children and that's the reason she's saving a freakin' buck. Jesus.

mxxconsays...

>> ^MaxWilder:
This is a prime example of infotainment purposefully trying to get the audience riled up.
"How China is turning our kids into Nazis, tonight at 11."


It's not about how china is turning our kids into nazis.
it's about the fact that nobody in the supply chain looked at this product and saw there is something horribly wrong with it.
it doesn't matter that this symbol might mean butterflies and kisses to Chinese. if they plan to import and sell it here, they have to know that for wast majority of the western world that symbol means something horrible and extremely evil.

MaxWildersays...

^ No, really they don't. There is nothing wrong with the product! There's plenty of Asians here who know exactly what that means and would be happy to wrap their gifts in it. The truth is that the store is having to pull a product because some dumb-ass American doesn't know that there are multiple cultures in the world, or at least doesn't think to ask before getting all offended. And the news station is assisting them in their outrage rather than educating people. It's absurd.

budzossays...

I think it's fucking stupid to say that since the nazis used swastikas, nobody in the "western world" should enjoy swastikas. It's a beautiful symbol. That's why Hitler picked it.

lucky760says...

>> ^Throbbin:
Everyone knows Buddhists hate the Jews. How is this news?

I think you're confusing every other religion with Buddhism (which is essentially the only one that entirely lacks any sense of hatred).

Hitler really took something benign and turned it into pure evil in everyone's mind. This is interesting because it's sort of the exact opposite of what Christians/Catholics did with the crucifix, turning it from a horrific medieval torture device into something worth praising.

Raaaghsays...

I think mirrored it was a samurai symbol for honour or something.

>> ^lucky760:
This is interesting because it's sort of the exact opposite of what Christians/Catholics did with the crucifix, turning it from a horrific medieval torture device into something worth praising.


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