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Hard to believe this happened. And thank goodness for the cameras, or I don't know if we would have believed it.

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A bit odd that the woman who insisted races cannot be male only went on to create numerous female only races. WTF?

Sauce for the gander...

It seems there were good reasons to have women only races.
https://www.runnersworld.com/newswire/do-women-only-races-still-have-a-purpose

Michael Buffer announcing ...

Award for "Body Check of the Century" goes to ...

Tom "The Mack Truck" Miller
for totally wrecking John Duncan Semple

Back when she started them, perhaps, but it still seems odd to me for HER to perpetuate the separate and unequal methodology that had worked so hard against her....different times....and I'm weird.

Today, as the article mentioned, there's not really good reason besides "girl power-female empowerment", which I find as distasteful as the idea of male only "boy power" races, which don't exist as far as I see outside of Iran.
Conversely, if little girls might need girl only racing to feel comfortable, why can't little boys feel the same and so get boy only races? Being ridiculed by girls for being a slow or odd runner hurts boys the same as the reverse hurts girls, no?
Most marathon finishers are women, they've proven they can and will run with men anywhere, but still today often men can't run with them.

Why does no one ever seem to want the pendulum of inequality to stop in the middle?

When it finally gets to the middle, maybe it will, but it hasn't been close, ever.

It's still less than a 100 years when women had to fight for the right to vote. I'm sure if men were ever denied the right to vote base on how they were born, you'd see some type of civil rights movement.

Oh, wait.

It's still been less than 100 years since women had to fight for the right to vote. When was the last time your had to fight for your right to vote because it was denied to you based on how you were born?

What does that have to do with being allowed to run in the 70's- today or with perpetuating sexual division in public marathons?
Nothing.
How many women alive today had to fight for their right to vote? How many of them run marathons?
I guess you support black only marathons too, then, right?

You asked me to explain why the "Equality Pendulum" wasn't anywhere close to the middle. I responded and asked you a question. The fact that you ignored all of that means you are either exceptionally dumb or a troll.

I'll just leave this question with you, answer it if you want, or not.

When in you're life has your gender, race, or sexual orientation ever held you back you from doing something?

If you want to have an actual conversation about equality in the world, answer that question. If you want to troll away, have at it.

In conclusion:

https://youtu.be/Qu8QiK7cBEY

You can do whatever you want. =)

I asked you how you can possibly think it's never been near the middle, you replied with essentially '100 years ago it wasn't close'.

That question, 'when have I had to fight for my right to vote', was either rhetorical or idiotic, I chose to give you the benefit of a doubt and assume rhetorical, but if you insist you're an idiot.....I have had to fight for my right to vote only once when my registration was not updated, which isn't the fight for women's suffrage but few alive fought that fight and none who still run marathons....it's not applicable. No woman involved (at least not the white women) has had to fight for that right personally.

I don't have time to answer that fully, because it's happened repeatedly. Specifically, there have been several classes I've wanted to take that were women only, I'm a pure honkey who lived in East Palo Alto, on more than one occasion I was turned away from stores/restaurants...usually by customers not the owners, and once chased by a group of men due to my race, sexual orientation, never, the gays I've known love me and I'm totally cool with them...and they're pretty all inclusive with events....but on reflection I'm sure there have been "girls trips" I would have been invited on had I been gay, if that counts.

Now, I asked you 4 questions you ignored completely, so which are you, exceptionally dumb or a troll X4? ;-)

That's been my point all along, they don't need special coddling, they're better than men in this arena.
Jebus Christ.
In conclusion: You don't support inclusion by advancing exclusion.

First, that video is f*cking awesome. She's awesome, her dad was awesome for encouraging her, her coach was awesome for having the wrong initial stance but having the integrity to reevaluate and come around, and her boyfriend at the time was awesome for laying a nice body check on the prick that tried to kick her out of the race.

I've saved the video in order to show it to my 4 year old daughter at some point in her future, when she can appreciate it. The world is full of people who want to tell us what we can't do. It's up to us (with plenty of support from friends, family, etc.) to prove those people wrong.

After thinking about it a bit more, merely getting women into marathons wasn't enough. She needed to get a LOT of women into running to create a movement, not just a "female NHL player" sort of footnote. Best way to do that is avoid the testosterone all together.

I suppose that's the mindset, and at the time that made sense....although it did force her to do to men what she was upset they had done to her, to an extent. I only hope the ones she created were for women, but didn't exclude men. That, I don't find distasteful.
Today, there's no reason whatsoever to have single sex races, like I mentioned, the only place that still does men only marathons is Iran, and women are better at running marathons than men, on average. Maybe not quite as fast, but far more likely to finish.

IMO, you cannot support inclusion by creating exclusionary events.

There are also reasons to have male only things but good luck getting away with it...

But I think the greater point is that Ms. Switzer should be admired for not being a victim and standing up. Third wavers could learn a lot from her example and stop trying to turn all women in to victims.