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In soviet Russia, cigarette smokes you!

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Very nicely done... and true, and as it should be dammit... if it does cause people to quit out of it just being too darn inconvenient then bravo, I'm amazed anyone still does these days.

Plus it helps that I find Katherine Parkinson awfully attractive.

^ spoco2, having previously been a smoker for 20 plus years (gawd, i'm old) i learned to hate people like you. The only comparison that could make you understand what trying to quit smoking is like would be for you to quit one of your own addictions.
try not using your computer. ever again. for the rest of your life. then you might have a little more humility toward your fellow man.

I'll second that hate vote by Opus, only let me add that whether he understands what it's like to try and give up smoking is irrelevant, the piousness with which people nowadays have the nerve to treat smokers makes me sick. Having Health on their side makes it ok, they're trying to help us... not to mention the extreme, irreversible, immediate and scientifically proven damage caused by second-hand smoking... Christ, how do we smokers even look at ourselves in the mirror?
Health fanaticism is nothing more than a modern religion. You think your way's the right way? good for you! have the decency to leave us the fuck alone. Or would you rather we, as a society, recognize anything and everything potentially harmful to us and slowly phase it out? How bout music in clubs? it's damn loud, proven to permanently damage your hearing. How bout alcohol? How bout fucking cars?
Get off your high horse.

My question has to be... why would anyone start smoking these days? In the 'good old days' it was common perception that it didn't hurt you, and even worse, that it was actually good for you... but today, today you know it's got a ridiculously high chance of killing you in a long and protracted way... and for what? I just don't get it at all.

But again, how is what I said a bad thing? If the way things are now, in that it's horrendously inconvenient to smoke these days, means that more people give it up, how is that in any way bad? It means that those people quit... it means that those people will now be healthier and richer (cigs cost a lot) and live longer and be around for their kids longer (if they have them)... I see no issue in wanting for people to quit.

I think you both have very itchy trigger fingers for anyone who comes out against smoking. And to try the usual... 'well what bout everything else that may harm you' line... come on, that's old, tired, and pathetic.

Cigarettes kill you in a horrible way, they are designed to make you addicted to them, by companies, so they can make vast sums of money from you while you die, they have zero positive benefits... therefore they should be discouraged at all costs.

Alcohol? Not designed to be addictive (some people are to it, but that's true of almost anything... you can find someone addicted to most anything these days), has positive benefits, and when drunk in moderation has little to no negative effect.

Music in clubs being so loud as to damage your ears... indeed... I would actually prefer them to be a few notches down, don't understand the need for louder, louder, louder myself, especially to the point that you hear a 'tearing' in your ears because they're overloaded... but hey... that's what earplugs are for.

Cars? Sure they can be dangerous... but they HAVE A POSITIVE PURPOSE... I hate this argument of 'well ban cars then' or anything else that could possibly harm you... they have a purpose. What positive purpose to cigarettes have? None... there is no positive to outweigh the negative... and the negative side of cars is constantly trying to be mitigated... not so for cigarettes.

Spewing hate at someone for wanting to smokers to stop smoking is like being hateful towards someone for wanting you to stop stabbing yourself repeatedly. We'd actually rather like for you to live longer, not die an agonizing death... how is that bad?

While most of what you said is true, again, you're missing the point. The fact that you presume to decide for the rest of us what is good and what isn't is fascistic. You're not even using the second-hand smoke argument which is surprising, you just go out and say "hey, this is better, for both of us". It would be like making an argument towards treating obese people as social outcasts (as if they aren't), it is no different than arguing the banning of abortions or of gay marriage, the only difference being the logic you apply is based on science and not on religion. What if anything in a pluralist society is more fundamental than the ability to respect other peoples' ways, different and distasteful as you may find them; especially when in regards to peoples' decisions regarding their own bodies and private lives.

You want to know what positive purpose there could be to smoking? I find it to be very effective at calming nerves and a good focus for reflecting and contemplating. It gives one a very good reason to just do nothing and chill out and think. It's also a good excuse to go outside and get some fresh air (don't laugh: I said fresh air not clean air, there's a difference) which also helps with the whole chilling and thinking bit. I also find it can be a very social activity, there's often camaraderie amongst a group of people smoking together. There are also some suggestions that smoking may or may not reduce the risk of Parkinson's and Alzheimer's. Plus it goes really well with alcohol. It's like wine and cheese or peanut butter and jelly, one of those classic combinations.
Now, I'm not suggesting that any of these things outweigh the negative aspects (except maybe the Alzheimer's thing, I've seen what that does to you), but that's certainly what I miss the most about smoking.

>> ^mrsid:
In soviet Russia, cigarette smokes you!


no, In Soviet Russia, Government smokes you!

Alcohol wasn't designed for anything, it was discovered because it was recreational. Cigarettes weren't designed to be deadly, tobacco was discovered because it was recreational.
What are the positive benefits of alcohol besides recreation and a few vague and tenuous health benefits?

wiki
Also, studies indicate that the proportion of men with alcohol dependence is higher than the proportion of women, 7% and 2.5% respectively, although women are more vulnerable to long-term consequences of alcoholism. Around 90% of adults in United States consume alcohol, and more than 700,000 of them are treated daily for alcoholism.

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Of the adult US population, at least 75% are drinkers; and about 6% of the total group are alcoholics. In groups which are almost 100% drinkers, the alcoholism rate is about 8%. Many reports state that about 73% of felonies are alcohol-related. One survey shows that in about 67% of child-beating cases, 41% of forcible rape cases, 80% of wife-battering, 72% of stabbings, and 83% of homicides, either the attacker or the victim or both had been drinking."



Cigarettes may kill people, but I doubt they hurt families as much as an alcoholic father can do. So lets ban alcohol, lets ban fast food, lets ban everything. Or just let people be responsible for themselves and make their own decisions.

>> ^spoco2:
Alcohol? Not designed to be addictive (some people are to it, but that's true of almost anything... you can find someone addicted to most anything these days), has positive benefits, and when drunk in moderation has little to no negative effect.

>> ^cybrbeast:
Or just let people be responsible for themselves and make their own decisions.
Yeah. Because that's got such a proven successful track record. Let's face it. No matter which way we slice it, everyone loses. Yay for alcohol, smoking, and drugs: you've done a lot for the world, haven't you. Thanks a lot.

Whoa people... it's a comedy clip.

You do realize that in between breathing in fresh air, you're breathing in smoke, tar and nicotine?

I'm sorry, but that argument seemed too silly for me to ignore
>> ^Samaelsmith:
It's also a good excuse to go outside and get some fresh air

I detect an LA resident.>> ^demon_ix:
You do realize that in between breathing in fresh air, you're breathing in smoke, tar and nicotine?
I'm sorry, but that argument seemed too silly for me to ignore
>> ^Samaelsmith:
It's also a good excuse to go outside and get some fresh air

I was an avid gamer for over a decade. I quit WoW, and then quit gaming completely... does that count?

Anyway, I'm not overly concerned with the health effects of small amounts of second-hand smoke, but I still can't stand to be around it. That odor lingers in rooms and on clothing like nothing else. It's incredibly irritating.

I do not agree with laws preventing any business from allowing smoking though. If a place wants to be 100% smoking allowed then fine... I won't go there, but it should be their choice.

Pot should be legalized and tobacco outlawed. If only for the smell.

I have never smoked (tobacco or anything else). I have never had any desire to smoke. I realize that I cannot really understand smoking from a smoker's mindset. I also realize that saying that "I wish nobody smoked" or "I wish cigarettes were never invented" doesn't really contribute anything.

But I hate smoking, and frankly that creates a large burden to overcome in any situation where I would develop any sort of direct interpersonal relationship with someone who smokes; whether that relationship is friendly, professional, romantic, or anything else. To me, cigarette smoke smells awful and even very small exposure can give me a headache or screw with my sinuses.

I don't want to interfere with other people's right to smoke at their own home or in private businesses that choose to allow it (bars, restaurants, whatever) -- or at least, I can accept that while I might personally be pleased if smoking was universally banned, I wouldn't want to set that sort of precedent for the whims of "some" being enforced on "all". But I will tend to personally avoid any location that allows smoking whenever possible, and I will tend to avoid people that smell of smoke much the same way (no great loss from your perspective, I am sure).

Just as a final thought, I'd suggest that smokers shouldn't take offense on a personal level to attitudes similar to mine. I don't hate you. I do hate smoking. I would prefer if you didn't smoke. You'd probably prefer me to be a female nudist with large breasts, or at least someone without an "attitude" about smoking. Neither of us is going to be magically granted our preference.

>> ^demon_ix:
You do realize that in between breathing in fresh air, you're breathing in smoke, tar and nicotine?
I'm sorry, but that argument seemed too silly for me to ignore <IMG class=smiley src="http://static1.videosift.com/cdm/emoticon/wink.gif">
>> ^Samaelsmith:
It's also a good excuse to go outside and get some fresh air


Yeah, my girlfriend thinks I'm crazy too. There is a certain quality to outside air, whether it's ions or whatever, that is different than inside air. Even on a busy downtown street on a smoggy day there is a "freshness" to the air that indoors doesn't have. And I must emphasize that "fresh" air has absolutely nothing to do with "clean" air.

Even though I've been a non-smoker for long enough that my sense of smell has come back and I can more truly enjoy fresh air, I still miss sitting out on the porch and breathing in the cool night air. I know I could still do that but without a cigarette, I can't relax because my mind is constantly thinking that I shouldn't be sitting around doing nothing, I should go inside and do something.

Also, when I would go outside and take a deep breath of good clean air, my mind would think "Mmmm, delicious, a smoke would make it even better." Even I think that's ridiculous, but that's how it was.

Oh, no no. You guys totally misunderstood my point.

I was commenting on the silliness of going outside for a cigarette break, an activity which consists of inhaling burned up tobacco leaves processed with tar and all sorts of yummy stuff, and counting "breathing fresh air" as one of the upsides.

What you're actually doing is inhaling the exact opposite of fresh air, and the reason you have to go out is so that you don't contaminate the atmosphere for the rest of us

>> ^cybrbeast:
Alcohol wasn't designed for anything, it was discovered because it was recreational.



You might want to look that one up. Alcohol was a necessity long before it was recreational. Fermentation was a way to preserve food items (grapes, grains, etc.) longer that would be possible before refrigeration/artificial preservatives. Most societies relied heavily on alcoholic beverages like beer and wine for a large part of their caloric intake.

>> ^Skeeve:
>> ^cybrbeast:
Alcohol wasn't designed for anything, it was discovered because it was recreational.


You might want to look that one up. Alcohol was a necessity long before it was recreational. Fermentation was a way to preserve food items (grapes, grains, etc.) longer that would be possible before refrigeration/artificial preservatives. Most societies relied heavily on alcoholic beverages like beer and wine for a large part of their caloric intake.

Even though people found other uses for it, it was discovered because it was recreational. Humans first encountered alcohol by accident in fermenting fruits and quickly learned of its pleasures. Just like monkeys, elephants and other animals consume fermenting fruit for the effects.

>> ^demon_ix:
Oh, no no. You guys totally misunderstood my point.
I was commenting on the silliness of going outside for a cigarette break, an activity which consists of inhaling burned up tobacco leaves processed with tar and all sorts of yummy stuff, and counting "breathing fresh air" as one of the upsides.
What you're actually doing is inhaling the exact opposite of fresh air, and the reason you have to go out is so that you don't contaminate the atmosphere for the rest of us


I don't know how to make myself clearer. I have trouble explaining this to my girlfriend too, but I must reiterate: "fresh" air is not the same as clean air. I do know it sounds silly but even though you are breathing in pollutants, you can still smell and taste and enjoy the "fresh" quality of outside air.

>> ^cybrbeast:
Alcohol wasn't designed for anything, it was discovered because it was recreational. Cigarettes weren't designed to be deadly, tobacco was discovered because it was recreational.
What are the positive benefits of alcohol besides recreation and a few vague and tenuous health benefits?
wiki
Also, studies indicate that the proportion of men with alcohol dependence is higher than the proportion of women, 7% and 2.5% respectively, although women are more vulnerable to long-term consequences of alcoholism. Around 90% of adults in United States consume alcohol, and more than 700,000 of them are treated daily for alcoholism.
[...]
Of the adult US population, at least 75% are drinkers; and about 6% of the total group are alcoholics. In groups which are almost 100% drinkers, the alcoholism rate is about 8%. Many reports state that about 73% of felonies are alcohol-related. One survey shows that in about 67% of child-beating cases, 41% of forcible rape cases, 80% of wife-battering, 72% of stabbings, and 83% of homicides, either the attacker or the victim or both had been drinking."

Cigarettes may kill people, but I doubt they hurt families as much as an alcoholic father can do. So lets ban alcohol, lets ban fast food, lets ban everything. Or just let people be responsible for themselves and make their own decisions.
>> ^spoco2:
Alcohol? Not designed to be addictive (some people are to it, but that's true of almost anything... you can find someone addicted to most anything these days), has positive benefits, and when drunk in moderation has little to no negative effect.



Cigarettes may not have been initially designed to be deadly, but they sure as hell have been 'improved' to be as addictive as they can possibly be to ensure that they keep those smokers going until they die.

You're missing the point in regards to drinking vs smoking. YES I AGREE that drinking can and does lead to bad things... but it doesn't have to. When consumed responsibly it does not have to result in anything bad occurring, it can act as a social lubricant, make good food better, etc. etc. Also, we all know how successful banning it turned out to be. The issues with alcohol, over and above alcoholism, is a societal one. If you got rid of alcohol from the poor and desperate, they would find something else to use to the same effect and still commit crime, and beat their wives etc. It's not the direct problem.

Also, you cite 7% of men and 2.5% of woman as being alcoholic... ok, so for that percentage then drinking should not be an option. Now... how about smoking? What percentage of smokers become addicted? Pretty darn close to 100%, and of those there are NO POSITIVE BENEFITS. None...

Now, I have never said it should be banned, never said it should be illegal, but it should not be allowed in areas where us non smokers frequent, because we don't deserve to be in a restaurant trying to enjoy a meal only to be assaulted by smoke. Nor do we wish to be waiting for a train and being engulfed in smoke. And again... the wish for others to stop smoking is as much for them as it is for us... we don't want to see them die.

Also, you saying that an alcoholic father who beats their children is a little off... for all the people that drink, and by your own figures that is BY FAR the majority of people, only a small, small percentage do that... compared to those that smoke, pretty much all will die a premature death, thereby robbing their children of a father earlier than need be.

You will never convince me that drinking s worse or even on the same level as smoking, never.

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