The finest in art you didn't know existed!

I really admire people with heaps of artistic abilities like this guy.

>> ^Throbbin:

I really people admire with heaps of artistic abilities like this guy.


thank you

Ok, that's nice, but where'd you put the vodka in?

I love when I start watching a video thinking, "this is going to be stupid", and I turn out to be completely wrong.

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to me end result looked a bit naff.

I mean bit of an arse to make but seems a bit tacky I guess you are just gona eat it and its for a buffet table its not really meant to be high art.

this is like the food equivalent of them space spray painted images. only at least this is edible.

try not huffing spray paint before you post. ART will seem much clearer when distinctions between minuscule lines and colours are requested. >> ^westy:

to me end result looked a bit naff.
I mean bit of an arse to make but seems a bit tacky I guess you are just gona eat it and its for a buffet table its not really meant to be high art.
this is like the food equivalent of them space spray painted images. only at least this is edible.

Thanks for sharing. To tear yourself away from curating at the Louvre for a few moments just to inform us that this watermelon would never have a home in your galleries is a little disappointing, but I still thank you for your brutal honesty. Is there any field of interest you're NOT an expert in? (I hear you're a good joke teller.) >> ^westy:

to me end result looked a bit naff.
I mean bit of an arse to make but seems a bit tacky I guess you are just gona eat it and its for a buffet table its not really meant to be high art.
this is like the food equivalent of them space spray painted images. only at least this is edible.

Oh lay off Westy. These ARE used for buffet tables on cruise lines, not displayed in galleries.

"but I still thank you for your brutal honesty. Is there any field of interest you're NOT an expert in? "

if sumone makes a piont that is logically sound then why would they have to be an exspert in something ?

allso why would you presume just because sumone voices an opinoin about something that they would concider themselfs to be an exspert , your autimatically trying to set up a confrontational situation.

If you disagree with what i have said why not say specifcaly and give a reason.

>> ^BoneRemake:

try not huffing spray paint before you post. ART will seem much clearer when distinctions between minuscule lines and colours are requested. >> ^westy:
to me end result looked a bit naff.
I mean bit of an arse to make but seems a bit tacky I guess you are just gona eat it and its for a buffet table its not really meant to be high art.
this is like the food equivalent of them space spray painted images. only at least this is edible.



I dont understand what you are saying.

and intemrs of the artistic merits of this its a very procedural method to produce this , i dont have an issue with it but i dobt evan the artist rates it realy highely probably just enjoys making roses with water mellons nothing wrong with that .

Interms of complexty and origonalty this dose not rate very highely , but then again thats not to say that sumone might realy enjoy this and the guy making it might realy enjoy it.

I was simply voicing my personal prefrences in that if i was going to do this id probably want to do something more origonal and something that to me would make it more apealing to eat , but if this was intended for a buffet then i can emgin it would go down realy well so its fine for that and again if it makes the guy happy thats making it happy then thats fine as well.

>> ^westy:
I dont understand what you are saying.
and intemrs of the artistic merits of this its a very procedural method to produce this , i dont have an issue with it but i dobt evan the artist rates it realy highely probably just enjoys making roses with water mellons nothing wrong with that .
Interms of complexty and origonalty this dose not rate very highely , but then again thats not to say that sumone might realy enjoy this and the guy making it might realy enjoy it.
I was simply voicing my personal prefrences in that if i was going to do this id probably want to do something more origonal and something that to me would make it more apealing to eat , but if this was intended for a buffet then i can emgin it would go down realy well so its fine for that and again if it makes the guy happy thats making it happy then thats fine as well.


What's more "procedural" about this carving than a wood carving of a flower? Or a painting of a flower? Do you think Monet didn't have a procedure established when he painted his lilies?

Would you consider a wood carving or sculpture of a flower art? What's the difference, one is edible and the other is not?

This displays a masterful use of the watermelon's natural structure and colors to create a work of art. How many things like this do you see everyday for you to call this unoriginal?

And you say you're making a "piont that is logically sound", except your original post contains no logic, only personal bias that this is "naff" and "tacky".

How is your point "logically sound" when art is subjective? You don't consider it high art. Fine. You consider it tacky. Fine. But both of those are your opinions, not a statement of fact. Logic has nothing to do with arriving at these opinions, capisce? Just because you think it's naff and that it should be relegated to the buffet table doesn't mean that it's not art. Chefs routinely prepare their dishes to be pleasing to the eye as well as the palate. Many consider it an art form. You may consider it naff.

Expertise is not the issue. I made my "expert" argument in a satirical vein, merely to drive home the point that is obvious to everyone here: That you are critical of almost everything, so your opinion should be taken with a grain of salt. It means as much as someone who praises everything. Maybe you aren't aware of that. Pardon my brutal honesty.>> ^westy:

"but I still thank you for your brutal honesty. Is there any field of interest you're NOT an expert in? "
if sumone makes a piont that is logically sound then why would they have to be an exspert in something ?
allso why would you presume just because sumone voices an opinoin about something that they would concider themselfs to be an exspert , your autimatically trying to set up a confrontational situation.
If you disagree with what i have said why not say specifcaly and give a reason.

I've got to agree. I've never seen anything like this, so to me it is surprising and beautiful. If you've seen dozens of watermelon carvings on buffet tables then maybe this is old hat, but please don't take away from the experience of those of us who are seeing it for the first time.

I really don't understand people who feel compelled to post negatively about videos showing somebody's artistic efforts. Whether it is music or watermelon carving, if you don't find it interesting just move on. Why waste five minutes of your day insulting them? Does it make you feel superior?

No no no.. you put it in the microwave for a little bit and then you cut a single hole in it.

I think Westy is right about the distinction between fine art and a decorative craft that is done according to an established pattern. Cake decorating, crochet, lacework, henna, flower arrangement, all fit in the latter category. But the fact that there's limited room for creativity doesn't make crafts valueless or any less beautiful. Often much of the beauty comes from the fact that the craftsman has done the same thing hundreds of times and has become really skilled at it. That's something that cannot really happen in fine art; once you've pained a painting or written a poem, you don't go back and reproduce it almost exactly the same way again a thousand times. Unless of course you're Andy Warhol.

^That's one approach to art, but certainly not the only one. Good luck to anyone trying to nail down what art is.

>> ^entr0py:

I think Westy is right about the distinction between fine art and a decorative craft that is done according to an established pattern. Cake decorating, crochet, lacework, henna, flower arrangement, all fit in the latter category. But the fact that there's limited room for creativity doesn't make crafts valueless or any less beautiful. Often much of the beauty comes from the fact that the craftsman has done the same thing hundreds of times and has become really skilled at it. That's something that cannot really happen in fine art; once you've pained a painting or written a poem, you don't go back and reproduce it almost exactly the same way again a thousand times. Unless of course you're Andy Warhol.


So every time this guy carves a watermelon, they are exact replications?

You make it sound like artists making fine art do not exactly reproduce the same piece of art, but ignore that they are still using the skills that they have done "hundreds of times and has become really skilled at it."

So if this guy carves a different flower in a veggie? That wouldn't be exactly the same, but using the same skills. Would that address the point in your response?

EDIT: I reread my comment. It really comes off dickish... To be honest, I'm tired and am going to go to bed instead of trying to figure out how to make my point while being less of a dick. Please understand that was not the intended tone.

"What's more "procedural" about this carving than a wood carving of a flower? Or a painting of a flower? Do you think Monet didn't have a procedure established when he painted his lilies?"

This is procedural in the same sence as those space spray painted images.
you could probably teach manny people how to do this in a very short peroid of time and get them to replicate it without themselfs having to aply anny real thought to the process.

not that i have a problem with unless sumone was falsly claiming that they invented the process not that that is that important as well.

I never said that this is more or less valid than another thing on a universal level .

I made it very clear that ultimetly if the artist gets enjoyment from it and sumone else dose then it dosent realy matter.

I think you can easily say that the technical ablity / knowlage required for this is less than say carving a convincing face out of wood or stone.
just because something is technically easy to do dosent make it invalid , but it dose make it technicalyt easy to do and there for often times far less impressive to manny people that might have an intrest in technical intrecasy in things , or the merging of technical exicutoin and origonal presentation.

my saying it is naff is my personal subjective view of it from my exsperance of seeing things having looked at ,cakes ,glasss work ,bits of art and abstract work i would think that people that have seen allot of art or maby work in art related fiealds would allso percive it as naff , but maby not.

>> ^kronosposeidon:

^That's one approach to art, but certainly not the only one. Good luck to anyone trying to nail down what art is.


I dont think annyone was evan making an argument to what art is or is not bit weard to bring that into things.

before when i said "interms of artistic merrits" that was not me saying on a scale of weather it is artistically valid or not.

personaly i think everything can be "art" in gneral sence of the word , but realy its one of those words that initself dosent have a comonly agreed apon meaning so u would have to specifcally say what you ment by the word art and then evaluate if something matched the criteria you set up at that piont in time.

There's a distinction between artisanship and artistry. The two can, and often do, mix. Intense practice of a skill easily leads to mannerism, which some artists use to their advantage and others try very hard to avoid.

I guess I have nothing much to say here after all... Art happens in the viewer's mind.

>> ^curiousity:

So every time this guy carves a watermelon, they are exact replications?
You make it sound like artists making fine art do not exactly reproduce the same piece of art, but ignore that they are still using the skills that they have done "hundreds of times and has become really skilled at it."
So if this guy carves a different flower in a veggie? That wouldn't be exactly the same, but using the same skills. Would that address the point in your response?
EDIT: I reread my comment. It really comes off dickish... To be honest, I'm tired and am going to go to bed instead of trying to figure out how to make my point while being less of a dick. Please understand that was not the intended tone.

It's alright. And I didn't mean to imply that they're exactly the same every time. If they were exactly the same every time, they wouldn't be improving. Compare a carpenter to a sculptor. The carpenter works off a pattern, usually one that's been refined very slowly over hundreds of repetitions, with a very specific result in mind. The skill with which he does his work can create an object of great beauty. But he doesn't have the same goal as a sculptor who is trying specifically to create something unique and evocative for the first time, often not knowing how it will turn out. I'm not even saying that fine art is "better" than fine craftsmanship, only that there is a distinction.

You're also right that artists have skills that they have practiced the hell out of, maybe brushwork, perspective, shading. In that way they have a lot in common with craftsmen. Again, the difference is in the goal.

Would have been great if they smashed it with a sledgehammer at the end!

Flower motifs are common, but there are a lot of other possibilities.

I was hoping he'd carve the Titanic.