this has got to be parody. there's no way that wasn't sarcasm in the end.

excellent use of tiny toons (doh! thanks rottenseed)

I really hoped it was a parody but looking at his youtube account apparently not. He even promotes the way of the master.

What exactly is the smartest proof of God?

>> ^rasch187:
What exactly is the smartest proof of God?


Since none of the attempts so far have been smart, it might be hard to pinpoint. It's easier to find the dumbest of the dumb than the smartest of the dumb.

"The current definition of a mile as 5,280 feet (as opposed to 5,000) dates to the 13th century"

BULlSHEET. Has any one ever went up to the moon with tape measure? Not to my knowledge no, so the jury is still out.

lies?

>> ^YouMakeKittyMad:
excellent use of Animaniacs

that would be tiny toons.

Yeah, that's pretty lame. I've been an atheist ever since I was in short pants and I've always thought the following made a better case:

"The moon is juxtaposed between the Earth and the sun in the exact spot such that the moon appears to exactly block out the sun. It is not just coincidence that the moon is sized the way it is and placed where it is, thus enabling this to happen."

That's a paraphrase from a grade-school teacher of mine in upstate NY. Since then, I've taken two sections of college astronomy (A's in each) and in addition to knowing way more than she ever did about the moon, I know that her belief was blissfully free of facts.

Or, to put it in a way she'd surely appreciate: the devil's in the details.

What a retard.

thats the infamous venomfangX, i can recognize that annoying bewsserwisser voice anywhere.

what he does, is alert his friends that he is posting a video, gets a little pile of positiver comments and ratings, then locks it before any spawn of satan gets a chance to respond

That is so retard... First of all, there have been many other measuring systems in history before the imperial system.
And secondly... The VAST majority of the world uses the Metric system.
So who would give a fuck about such a stupid measurement like that?

religious folks care. they'll grasp at any possible thing that might even have a hint of possibility of "proof". of course there are those that demand we prove he *doesnt* exist, but th onus is on them to prove he does, not vice versa.

Even if he was correct about the correlation between the diameter of the moon and number of degrees marched around the city of the moon, he is forgetting a few things. First, you can't compare the marching of a city circumference with the diameter of an object unless your God is trying to prove himself through the use of pi. But I see no mention in the Bible about infinite ratios. (That is reason enough for my atheism. After all, how could the creator of all things geek not be a geek and show his work?) Secondly, even if you could use the measurement of circumference, I highly doubt the city walls were round, so the marching was not a measurement of circumference. And lastly, the men were told to march once a day for six days, then seven times on the seventh day, so the 2160 degrees becomes 4680 degrees, which he doesn't explain as meaning anything...because it doesn't.

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^ Ha, that's superb about the extra info regarding the seven times, don't you just love how they remove 'extraneous' information that completely invalidates their 'point'?

Also, the diameter of the moon is actually:
3,474 kilometers = 2,158.64352 miles

So not 'exactly' 2160 miles either.

Wrong on two points.

Man I love the amount of time people spend trying to come up with 'proofs' to make themselves feel better about their misguided beliefs

They marched around Jericho 13 times, once every day for 6 days, then 7 times on the seventh day.

Anyway, walking around your living room 6 times is still 6 x 360 degrees. *Slight* leap of imagination there to get from degrees to miles.

it's a no-brainer... except in this case that's a requirement.

This is your proof of God... *holds up a bible* The good book and what is inside... *opens bible and pull out a gun* Do you believe in God now!?!

>> ^rasch187:
What exactly is the smartest proof of God?

what exactly is "smartness" ?

the way i see it, atheists do the same trick in reverse, they say "science is the way to understand the world, and science has no room for God, so... therefore... there is no God!!! I am smart now!"

Yes i know some atheists are not that retarded, but a lot are. If you say religion is incompatible with science, and then you try to use science to criticise religion, well... you're retarded.

The smart answer is to say "God is everything, therefore God is science, and atheism, and murder, and bombs, and flowers, and jealousy, and 9/11 conspiracy theories, and cheese sandwiches, and love, and DNA, and evolution, and the bit on a car engine that lets the fuel into the piston, etc ad INFINITUM"... then work on from there.

>> ^mas8705:
This is your proof of God... holds up a bible The good book and what is inside... opens bible and pull out a gun Do you believe in God now!?!

Somebody's been playing too much GTA IV and forgetting to take his meds...

>> ^MINK:
and cheese sandwiches,


um, no. jesus is cheese sandwiches.

i'm a christian, but i won't assert that you can prove god... because you would need evidence or a line of reasoning.... which we don't have.

>> ^MINK:
what exactly is "smartness" ?
the way i see it, atheists do the same trick in reverse, they say "science is the way to understand the world, and science has no room for God, so... therefore... there is no God!!! I am smart now!"
Yes i know some atheists are not that retarded, but a lot are. If you say religion is incompatible with science, and then you try to use science to criticise religion, well... you're retarded.
The smart answer is to say "God is everything, therefore God is science, and atheism, and murder, and bombs, and flowers, and jealousy, and 9/11 conspiracy theories, and cheese sandwiches, and love, and DNA, and evolution, and the bit on a car engine that lets the fuel into the piston, etc ad INFINITUM"... then work on from there.


The field of science has nothing to do with religion. It has no such "goal" to disprove the existence of god and if there are atheists that claim such a thing, then they are definitely NOT scientists. Science is the very best tool we have of discovering the truth about the universe: from quarks to quasars. The UNINTENDED side effect is that such discoveries are inconvenient to religion's dogma. Note the word in caps.

History is filled with scientific advances of this kind. But let's not pretend that scientists' motivation is to "bring down" religion. You think men such as Galileo and Kepler worked out the orbital arrangement of the solar system to disprove god? They were looking for the truth, my dear boy. The insurmountable problem seems to be that religion cannot integrate these truths into their world. But then, religion does not need to. Faith is the natural enemy of truth, not the other way around. By that, I mean religion is the plaintiff and science is the defendant.

So let's all be clear: NOTHING will bring down religion. Note the word in caps.

>> ^rottenseed:
>> ^mas8705:
This is your proof of God... holds up a bible The good book and what is inside... opens bible and pull out a gun Do you believe in God now!?!

Somebody's been playing too much GTA IV and forgetting to take his meds...


That sounds more like Call of Juarez to me.

It also shows you that God hates the metric system.

Straw man, meet videosift. Videosift, meet straw man. You two will have such fun together!

Okay, I thought this place was a cool video site back when I used to contribute, but it's turned into a big Ron Paul/anti-Christian/politically biased circle jerk. Can't go a day without seeing at least 5 videos in the top 15 that fit in those categories. And every time I try to put on my crap-filtering goggles and pass on all but the good videos, I get lambasted by another smattering of agendas that I can't ignore.

Truthfully, if this site had any decent competition, I'd be out of here in a heartbeat.

You can bring on the "we don't care"s, the "don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out"s, "[expletive] you"s, and false assumptions about my beliefs and political affiliation now. Don't care. Had to say it anyway.

can i get that in radians?

http://www.cracked.com/article_15759_10-things-christians-atheists-can-must-agree-on.html

everyone who posted here should read it. thats all.

If you could prove God exists then you wouldn't need Faith, which is a requirment for salvation, so you can't prove God exists, you can only believe because you choose to believe, based on nothing more than your willingness to do so.

Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
-Hebrews 11:1

Faith is belief in something you know can't be true.
-some guy

in other words, you dont want to prove anything, you dont need to prove anything and nothing will ever be proven. dont try to discover whats real or why anything really happens, God did it and thats that. oh youve discovered something? well then thats because God put it there.

I dont suppose youd care to explain just what it is you *really* believe in, aside from a book written thousands of years ago, by multiple authors, over the course of hundreds of years, these same authors in cases writing about events that occured hundreds of years before they themselves actually began writing it?

never mind the fact that it has been translated, retranslated, copied and recopied for those thousands of years and you would honestly take it on "faith" that every single person who copied and/or translated this book you base EVERYTHING on never had a personal stake or agenda to forward? none of them ever had a choice between two definitions or wordings and wouldn't choose the one that bests fits their own message?

to say that you are of a religion, that believes in a bible of some kind, is not neccesaraly to say "i put my faith in god" your putting your "faith" in the hands of every single person over the course of the entire history of whatever book you get all of your religious information from. putting your eternal soul that you so cherish into the hands of every fundamentalist, conservative, moderate believer who had the job of translating or copying these pages for future readers.

there are facts about recorded history only 100-200 *years* old that are STILL debated and discussed and argued about.

Now I want to watch Darren Aronofsky's "Pi" again.

Still doesnt beat the vid. where a guy claim that the banana is the biggest proof of god!
http://www.videosift.com/video/Atheists-nightmare-debunked

Blah blah blah. Don't really care to read all the comments now, but I am a Christian and that was retarded. The point of believing in God is that we don't NEED proof. Its called FAITH for a reason.

I didn't forget my meds! Walgreens just hasn't called me yet to pick up my order!

>> ^rottenseed:
>> ^mas8705:
This is your proof of God... holds up a bible The good book and what is inside... opens bible and pull out a gun Do you believe in God now!?!

Somebody's been playing too much GTA IV and forgetting to take his meds...

Hey now, don't piss off the Xians, your "agenda" is showing!

And by the way, what happened after those walls came tumbling down?

" 20 When the trumpets sounded, the people shouted, and at the sound of the trumpet, when the people gave a loud shout, the wall collapsed; so every man charged straight in, and they took the city. 21 They devoted the city to the LORD and destroyed with the sword every living thing in it—men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys."

That's right, God gave Caanan to the chosen people, and they proceeded to commit genocide. What a wonderful religion you've got there! How proud you must be!

On the topic of science, there can be no proofs against God. Science does not seek such a thing. However, religions always seem to make claims about the nature of the universe, and science has been proving them false, one after the other. That's just the way it goes when you make guesses about things you have no clue about. And so religion must fear science, and call it anathema, and claim that science is trying to destroy God.

Hey look at that Xians! Your agenda is showing!

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