So this float showed up at the Popcorn festival/ parade

Someone thought it was a good idea to have the smoking twin towers at a popcorn themed parade. Seems it's been met with a bit of a backlash.
newtboysays...

The "someone" who thought this was a good idea is the Valparaiso GOP.
Asked for comment on the backlash, the chairman said "I think we hit it spot on", "they all liked it".
Talk about tone deaf. You hit the towers spot on, eh? That's definitely what your float is about.

This seems a lot more like celebrating the attack than remembering the victims.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9986043/Indiana-9-11-parade-float-featuring-Twin-Towers-billowing-smoke-sparks-backlash.html

noimssays...

This comment is only for people with a dark sense of humour. I apologise in advance.

For a popcorn theme they could probably have put in a popcorn maker and holes in the sides of the buildings. That way as the corn pops, the little popcorn people jump out.

It took me an hour to click 'submit' on this.

eric3579says...

I applauded your comment courage. I often spend lots of time editing my comments after i post them and will often end up just deleting them.

noimssaid:

It took me an hour to click 'submit' on this.

BSRsays...

If you're interested in body recovery you'd fit right in.

noimssaid:

This comment is only for people with a dark sense of humour. I apologise in advance.

For a popcorn theme they could probably have put in a popcorn maker and holes in the sides of the buildings. That way as the corn pops, the little popcorn people jump out.

It took me an hour to click 'submit' on this.

JiggaJonsonsays...

Im unsure how I feel about this so far. I get that "celebrating the attack" = bad. But it was meant as a memorial, I've never been to a pleasant memorial, and some of them do show people being attacked.


https://images.fineartamerica.com/images/artworkimages/mediumlarge/2/nurses-memorial-vietnam-war-memorial-in-washington-dc-ruth-hager.jpg


https://www.legion.org/sites/legion.org/files/memorial-photos/IMG_0074.JPG

https://www.newsherald.com/storyimage/DA/20190123/NEWS/190129403/AR/0/AR-190129403.jpg

I'm not sure exactly what is in bad taste about this. I see many war memorials where soldiers have either been attacked or in the middle of being attacked. I don't see the distinction between the buildings and the soldiers.

newtboysaid:

The "someone" who thought this was a good idea is the Valparaiso GOP.
Asked for comment on the backlash, the chairman said "I think we hit it spot on", "they all liked it".
Talk about tone deaf. You hit the towers spot on, eh? That's definitely what your float is about.

This seems a lot more like celebrating the attack than remembering the victims.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9986043/Indiana-9-11-parade-float-featuring-Twin-Towers-billowing-smoke-sparks-backlash.html

JiggaJonsonsays...

a few more

http://landmarkhunter.com/photos/61/33/613361-L.jpg

https://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium-large-5/holocaust-memorial-jc-findley.jpg

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/bHPzhX_BHYE/maxresdefault.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-bvUo5P-Pilc/UKalbd7Vb9I/AAAAAAAATHw/q0Mr_57f2a0/s1600/Miami+Holocaust+Memorial03.JPG

http://artofmiami.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/IMG_8259.jpg

Am I missing something here? I always thought memorials were supposed to be sad or solemn. To @noims point of humor, I don't see any attempt at humor here. Just a low budget float without an art director.


Speaking of dark humor though, it's not as though the Kawani's are doing their thing with their go carts dressed up as 747 planes pretending to crash into the float.

I ask genuinely, why are the tortured figures in the holocaust memorials not being derided as "celebrating their torture" ?

How is depicting a wounded person different than a wounded building in terms of war memorial creation?
(not the diff btween a building and a person) just the bit about why it's suddenly offensive to show something that was attacked.

newtboysays...

To me, it's like having a float of a burning sinking USS Arizona at a Pearl Harbor anniversary event, or worse.
I do see a distinction, especially since those lost in NY on 9/11 didn't heroically go down fighting the enemy. There's little to celebrate about the image.

JiggaJonsonsaid:

Im unsure how I feel about this so far. I get that "celebrating the attack" = bad. But it was meant as a memorial, I've never been to a pleasant memorial, and some of them do show people being attacked.


https://images.fineartamerica.com/images/artworkimages/mediumlarge/2/nurses-memorial-vietnam-war-memorial-in-washington-dc-ruth-hager.jpg


https://www.legion.org/sites/legion.org/files/memorial-photos/IMG_0074.JPG

https://www.newsherald.com/storyimage/DA/20190123/NEWS/190129403/AR/0/AR-190129403.jpg

I'm not sure exactly what is in bad taste about this. I see many war memorials where soldiers have either been attacked or in the middle of being attacked. I don't see the distinction between the buildings and the soldiers.

JiggaJonsonsays...

@newtboy perhaps they shouldn't have used the word "parade"

If this were part of a "Memorial Procession," that might i think change a lot of minds about it.

Do you see what i mean about other war memorials though?

JiggaJonsonsays...

@newtboy After the thankfully uneventful rally in Washington yesterday, it occurred to me; THAT is like celebrating the attack. The buildings on fire aren't celebrating the hijackers. The rally, however, is cheering on those who attacked or would attack the US Capitol.

newtboysays...

@JiggaJonson I agree yesterday was definitely celebrating an attack against America, but I think the same could reasonably said of a float depicting the capitol smashed and ransacked, covered with with stop the steal graffiti, and with a gallows out front, which I think is more analogous. If they excused that by saying it's intended to memorialize the dead officers, I think that excuse would seem ridiculous and hollow....but that's just, like, my opinion, man.

JiggaJonsonsays...

I understand. I see what you mean about the gallows, but in that case I can see clearly they are intending to celebrate or memorialize the attackers; they say as much themselves. I just don't personally believe they had negative or similar intentions in Valparaiso, IN when conceiving the float.

I'll agree that something isn't going well when half of everyone who sees it is like 'wtf' and the message isn't clear. I just don't think they ever meant it that way. :-p

newtboysaid:

@JiggaJonson I agree yesterday was definitely celebrating an attack against America, but I think the same could reasonably said of a float depicting the capitol smashed and ransacked, covered with with stop the steal graffiti, and with a gallows out front, which I think is more analogous. If they excused that by saying it's intended to memorialize the dead officers, I think that excuse would seem ridiculous and hollow....but that's just, like, my opinion, man.

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