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60 Comments
deathcowsays...awesome thanks
Deanosays...Wow,great post t-man.
couplandsays...Somehow it strikes me as a bit profane to call this a "good post", but it's certainly one of the most thought-provoking on the site.
HistNerdsays...*politics *vintage Great post.
siftbotsays...Video added to politics and vintage channels (both channels called by gold star member HistNerd)
budzossays...Greatest quote of all time, and it's a double quote... we guote Oppenheimer quoting myth.
Don't worry, Robert J... this is all just another blink of Vishnu.
silvercordsays...Sigh . . .
Fedquipsays...wow, awesome
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Oppenheimer
Memoraresays..."i suppose we all thought that one way or another" -
methinks we're all going to get the chance for such reflection firsthand before much longer.
loorissays...any transcription?
klotzsays..."We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says, "Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds." I suppose we all thought that one way or another."
source:
http://www.atomicarchive.com/Movies/Movie8.shtml
loorissays...great thanks!
slintsays...Incredible piece. Being able to see his face is what solidifies it for me.
It's always intrigued me the different levels of the warmongers wanting the be-all/end-all weapon, and the scientists being driven by the technology, and following that path, not concerning themselves with what the consequences of the end product might be.
couplandsays...slint, I think that's a gross oversimplification and perpetuating a pretty silly stereotype. A lot of very brilliant people helped develop the atomic bomb, all from different backgrounds and probably all with different reasons. I suspect they devoted a great deal of time thinking about what they were doing and wrestling with tough ethical problems. No doubt many of them thought it would be used as a deterrent, others thought it would save lives that would otherwise be lost in a long drawn-out war, and likely none of them could have predicted that even while toasting their own victory they'd be marching down the road towards 40+ years of political and psychological warfare with the very nations who stood with them as allies. The whole Pandora stereotype makes for great movie fodder but I don't think reality is quite so simple.
quantumushroomsays...Too bad The Bomb wasn't perfected by 1940: no Hitler, no Mussolini, no Japanese Emperor, no WW2.
Vishnu doesn't give a damn about death...the "duty" he wanted the Prince to fulfill was the slaughter of his former teachers, friends and family members who opposed the Will of the Great One.
T-mansays...I'm assuming you mean too bad the bomb wasn't perfected by us in 1940. If it had been perfected by Hitler (he was trying), Mussolini, or Japan there would have been no WWII.
T-mansays...*promote
siftbotsays...Self promoting this video back to the front page; last published Sunday, April 29th, 2007 7:15pm PDT - promote requested by original submitter T-man.
siftbotsays...Tags for this video have been changed from 'oppenheimer, atomic, bomb, hindu' to 'oppenheimer, atomic, bomb, nuclear, weapon, hindu, vishnu, death' - edited by calvados
calvadossays...*history *military *worldaffairs
siftbotsays...Adding video to channels (History, Military, Worldaffairs) - requested by calvados.
calvadossays...Looks a bit like Picard.
notarobotsays...it seems to be *dead
siftbotsays...Invocations (dead) cannot be called by notarobot because notarobot is not privileged - sorry.
notarobotsays...Yeah, sifty, I know, I'm just sayin..
notarobotsays...Yeah, sifty, I know, I'm just sayin..
berticussays...'tis not dead, try reloading?
Fedquipsays...*promote
Currently the Top Rated Video of All Time in the DP&FA Channel, view the leaderboard
siftbotsays...Promoting this video back to the front page; last published Thursday, January 24th, 2008 8:06am PST - promote requested by Fedquip.
uhohzombiessays...Oppenheimer's deadly toy... powerful video.
guessandchecksays...This video is strangely moving. You can tell that Oppenheimer's mind was probably never at ease again. There's something so painful in his expression that I've decided to make a new playlist: The Human Condition
Also, for a little more insight, although possibly slightly fictionalized:
Fat Man and Little Boy - Interesting movie about the scientists from Los Alamos. Starring Paul Newman, John Cussak, and Laura Dern
choggiesays...yep, his faces tells the hideous motherfucking tale innit!!! Am I the only one who imagines Nosferatu's undead Theatre when his skeletacious face appears???
choggiesays...*horrorshow
siftbotsays...Videos are limited to being in a maximum of 5 channels - ignoring all requests by choggie.
calvadossays...*dark *religion
siftbotsays...Adding video to channels (Dark, Religion) - requested by calvados.
rasch187says...*promote the destroyer of worlds
siftbotsays...Promoting this video back to the front page; last published Wednesday, February 27th, 2008 3:42pm PST - promote requested by rasch187.
Aniatariosays...There's something about that man's face, something about his expression that's so unnerving.
campionidelmondosays...lets *promote and learn from our mistakes
siftbotsays...Promoting this video back to the front page; last published Tuesday, January 6th, 2009 6:46am PST - promote requested by campionidelmondo.
Captain_Cavemansays...One tear does not wash away the chaos you created. Yet the angst in his eyes is apparent.
I wish I could put this to the front ( its on my to do list ).
gwiz665says...Now I am become meth, destroyer of girls..
demon_ixsays...>> ^gwiz665:
Now I am become meth, destroyer of girls..
Oh indeed.
campionidelmondosays...*promote
siftbotsays...Promoting this video back to the front page; last published Monday, February 16th, 2009 6:35am PST - promote requested by campionidelmondo.
NordlichReitersays...He has an uncanny likeness to Dr Manhattan.
Croccydilesays...Yay for promoting this. If you are ever in Las Vegas I recommend checking out http://www.atomictestingmuseum.org/
(No really, I went there and it is pretty damn awesome. Only sad face is they wont let you take pictures of anything)
Jinxsays...Timely promote.
campionidelmondosays...*quality
siftbotsays...Boosting this quality contribution up in the Hot Listing - declared quality by campionidelmondo.
Bruti79says...Appropriate for today.
rebuildersays...On the subject, Richard Feynman's writings on of how he ended up deciding to take part in the nuclear bomb project and how their success affected him are worth reading. He apologizes for nothing, but neither does he say his mind is at ease with what they created.
ravermansays...The advance of mankind is always paved with the blood of innocents.
campionidelmondosays...*promote
siftbotsays...Promoting this video back to the front page; last published Friday, August 6th, 2010 11:26am PDT - promote requested by campionidelmondo.
Norsuelefanttisays...*length=00:01:39
siftbotsays...The duration of this video has been updated from unknown to 1:39 - length declared by Norsuelefantti.
T-mansays...*promote
siftbotsays...Self promoting this video back to the front page; last published Sunday, April 29th, 2007 1:56pm PDT - promote requested by original submitter T-man.
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