Low Point of Tim Burton's Career - The Futterwacken

The horror..... the horror....
MaxWildersays...

The dance was a little bit silly, but on the whole Alice in Wonderland was a great film.

Actually, it wasn't even the dance that was bad, it was the music that came from nowhere and didn't match the style of the rest of the film that made it really awkward.

Also, the visuals for the film were spectacular, and are reduced to mud in this cam copy clip. Ugh.

AeroMechanicalsays...

Seems like it would have worked pretty well without any music, just whatever insane silent melody the hatter keeps in his head. I bet that's how it was written originally.

edit: On second thought, yeah, of course that's how it's written. The characters clearly aren't supposed to be hearing the sound track. I imagine they just assumed the typical Disney audience lacks the necessary imagination and would be confused. I have more faith in them myself, but obviously Burton sold the &#@%$ out. It's a shame, really.

Kevlarsays...

Saw this in theaters over the weekend. I actually recoiled at this point in the film; not for any base discomfort at seeing someone's head spin around, but for realizing what Tim Burton managed to do simultaneously to Johnny Depp and the Mad Hatter.

cgnesssays...

This being my first 3D experience...I left the movie not really sure how I felt about it. I wanted to laugh along with instantly remembered sillies and the like, but when I saw this clip it illustrated and cemented the sensation that a good Burton film should accomplish. Freaky. Outlandish. Altogether fun. Then this dance comes over and puts its dick in my ear when I'm sleeping after a good Christmas dinner. It was like watching the Phantom Menace bundled into about 20 seconds.

dannym3141says...

I don't know what the film was like, but i can't take any more tim burton/depp/bonham-carter films. Really just can't take it, if you know what i mean?

Like if someone gave you a nice bacon and egg fry-up. You love the first one, but then he gives you another. Well you can probably manage another and it's tasty. And then he gives you another. Aaaand another. And each successive one you're thinking "buh, this is too much." And eventually as nice as the meal was originally, the taste hasn't changed but you can't take anymore. Then he shoves another one in front of you and you know there's absolutely no way you can eat it.

It's like that.

This metaphor may be wasted on americans. *cough*

dystopianfuturetodaysays...

I really disliked this film. Terrible storytelling, weak characters, and an over reliance on CGI. It's the George Lucas Phantom Menace syndrome: Give a director a $200,000,000 budget, and they spend all their time figuring out how to spend all that money, rather than focussing on creating a worthwhile piece of art.

Johnny Depp's Mad hatter, whom gets almost as much screen time as the bland lead, consists of drag queen make up and an effeminate voice, which occasionally shifts to a Braveheart brogue. It comes across more as self indulgent mugging from an actor who has received no directorial guidance than any kind of actual insanity.

In Burton's earlier years, when his budgets were a fraction of what they are now, he told truly imaginative stories, with great characters and heartfelt performances. Movies like Beetlejuice, Edward Scissorhands, Ed Wood and The Nightmare Before Christmas were cinematic masterpieces in my opinion.

The scene above is the precise moment when my disappointment turned to contempt. Issy and I actually turned to each other in the theater to verify that it was not a hallucination. (/disappointed fan-boy rant)

If you are reading this Tim Burton, here's your assignment, should you decide to take it:

Make a film for under 10 million dollars. You are not allowed to use your wife or Johnny Depp as cast members. The script must be original and not an adaptation of some previously existing work. Use models, stop motion, or whatever other effects you like, but keep the CGI to a bare minimum.

Issykittysays...

I still never quite got over being supremely pissed off about Burton's Charlie and the Chocolate Factory... and this horrifiyingly terrible trannny drug clown/ dungeons and dragons MESS really pushed my anger over the edge! GRRRRRRR!

dagsays...

Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag.(show it anyway)

^Yep, Charile and the Chocolate Factory was shit in exactly the same way. Lot's of camera mugging and cgi eye candy- but absolutely no heart. No story, no characters you care about. Style over substance and cinematic drivel.

But I haven't been happy with most kids' movies lately. I know this is a minority opinion- but I thought Where the Wild Things Are was shit too- with a better soundtrack.

Kruposays...

Yeah, saw it on Sunday and couldn't quite put my finger on what exactly had caused this feeling of "juh?"

I realized that as a self-defence mechanism my brain had blocked this *fail out.

[Abject horror detected: total reboot of Krupo's short term memory in five seconds....]

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