Japanese Dolphin Hunt Condemned By World

The Japanese culture is very backassward ~ seriousu deveropmental disabrritiy
chingalerasays...

Yeah, the Japanese are for the most part some some piece-a-work dysfunctional, throw-backs to empire & isolation fucking savages oh and, Thanks Japan, for ass-raping the Pacific with radiation...Brilliant move, dumbassess!

Do love a lot of their whack-ass psycho shit though, but they treat their women like dogshit, so fuck em.

Sagemindsaid:

Dolphins are not a "Resource"

Yogisays...

Are you fucking serious right now? We destroyed their country with nuclear bombs, make their government and basically force nuclear power onto them, but it's their fault? Bullshit.

chingalerasaid:

Yeah, the Japanese are for the most part some some piece-a-work dysfunctional, throw-backs to empire & isolation fucking savages oh and, Thanks Japan, for ass-raping the Pacific with radiation...Brilliant move, dumbassess!

chingalerasays...

Not talking about the guilt of the United States and their use of the fucking A-bomb man, talking about their current dysfunction relative to their oppressive history of their version of feudalism and leadership under the Samurai, Shogun etc., and primarily their treatment of females and the leftovers of tradition that shape the current Japanese paradigm-Sure, their utter defeat and cordon from the west shaped their face the last century, but their history of isolation (by choice and circumstance) their take on other cultures, relationship to the Chinese, etc., and their obstinate deleterious sensibilities that's causing the younger generations of Japanese people to forego breeding for a whacked morality devoid of hope. They all need serious therapy and true, a lot of it lies in the way they internalized their humiliating defeat in WW2.

Love Japan, can't stand the way they are still so out of touch with the whole of humanity. They need to start breeding or their culture will be assimilated.

We forced nuclear energy on them? Please, show me-
Show me a country or peoples who treat women and children like shit, and I'll scream fuck-em or fix-em every time. Goes for the U.S. as well, we're just as fucked.

Yogisaid:

Are you fucking serious right now? We destroyed their country with nuclear bombs, make their government and basically force nuclear power onto them, but it's their fault? Bullshit.

SDGundamXsays...

Please take your racist bullshit to YouTube where it belongs and leave it off the Sift.

You want to be edgy and hijack threads, I get it. But you crossed the line with that remark which paints an entire people as, in your own words "dysfunctional" and "savages". I've never done this before, but I'm going to invoke @dag on this one because I don't think comments like this are what the Sift is about.

chingalerasaid:

Yeah, the Japanese are for the most part some some piece-a-work dysfunctional, throw-backs to empire & isolation fucking savages oh and, Thanks Japan, for ass-raping the Pacific with radiation...Brilliant move, dumbassess!

Do love a lot of their whack-ass psycho shit though, but they treat their women like dogshit, so fuck em.

SDGundamXsays...

Back to the video at hand, I find it a bit hypocritical that the U.S. is criticizing the hunt. Yeah, dolphins are cute. The idea of someone killing one is probably uncomfortable to pretty much any culture that hasn't spent centuries eating them. But I think there's a bit of ethnocentricsm going on here.

How many cattle, chicken, and turkeys get slaughtered every day in the U.S. in the most horrible ways--nevermind the horrific conditions most have to endure from birth until death? Where's the international outcry over that?

The primary complaint of this video seems to be that the dolphins die slowly, but the video fails to mention that's only if the procedure is done wrong. It's done that way precisely because Japanese laws require the butchering to be done quickly and when done correctly they die within seconds. I imagine the whales killed by Inuit's in their traditional hunts don't die much quicker (see http://www.alaskadispatch.com/article/20131008/save-whales-inuit-whalers-wary-whaling-commission-quotas for more details).

Basically, while I find the method they use to kill disturbingly inhumane, I also don't see the need for the international community to intervene in the hunt unless it can be shown that the hunt is adversely affecting the population. The primary reason hunting dolphins is stupid is because the meat contains alarmingly high concentrations of mercury which pose a major health risk to humans that habitually eat the meat.

Sagemindsays...

My complaint is the over fishing of the waters, not just in their areas, but in International waters as well. Everyone else has agreed to slow or stop certain types of fishing but the Japanese just walk in and scoop everything up , with a "more for us attitude."

And fishing / killing animals that were bread for food stocks is much different than killing wild animals en mass, intelligent or otherwise. Remember the Buffalo? I would be just as put off if Canadians, rounded up hundreds of Caribou into herds and outright slaughtered them as well, humanly, inhumanly or otherwise.

I believe the Japanese have not solved the "feed it's population" problem, because it relies to much on the over fishing of the oceans. They are having to travel further and further out to catch enough fish to feed their population. So, it's unfortunate, but a slowly spiraling population is not all bad in an over populated area that cannot sustain that population.

I love that they use so much from the sea, I love Japanese food. I just wish they would have a better consideration for the environment. The oceans, although filled with food, is not a viable and sustainable source for food in the long run. They can't even begin to monitor the ecological damage they are doing.

dagsays...

Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag.(show it anyway)

The irony of you as an American trash talking the Japanese for irradiating the Pacific is hilarious - and sad.

But seriously - racist comments like this get you an official warning. Please consult the guidelines if you need guidance.

chingalerasaid:

Yeah, the Japanese are for the most part some some piece-a-work dysfunctional, throw-backs to empire & isolation fucking savages oh and, Thanks Japan, for ass-raping the Pacific with radiation...Brilliant move, dumbassess!

Do love a lot of their whack-ass psycho shit though, but they treat their women like dogshit, so fuck em.

chingalerasays...

The first person to cry 'racist' is usually the racist him/herself-
Japan
Ethnicity
Race?
Fuck Racism.

*edit-Another question? If I had written, 'Fuck Australia' after bashing her culture's shortcomings would you have been as quick to use the the 'cry racism' model so easily considering her peoples are a compendium of a mixed-bag similar to the America you expatriated from, equally as complicit in crimes against humanity at large and isolationism? You got yer crazy bag of fucks there as well expat, check a mirror.

I hold no racist views towards the Japanese, I am trashing a culture's savage and mundane aspects Mr. Official warning, and whom or what did I offend I would ask? YOUR sensibilities sir?

The Japanese suffer as a peoples because of the backlog of baggage they carry into the future-I do not discount their contributions to the planet, the shining aspects of their culture, HOWEVER. I do recognize their dysfunction and regret and lament their dwindling numbers, the erosion of families, their skewed sense of sexuality and their treatment of the female within their culture. Ask any Japanese woman of the age of 20 and not one will tell you that she has not been sexually exploited or violated in a public place. Sure, it's fun to watch and giggle at their television, their obsessions and odd social practices but form whence does the spectacle arise, from what psychological mindfuck that reaches much further back than Hiroshima or Nagasaki?

Oh the IRONY of someone so self-important and all-powerful as to pass judgement on intent or meaning without first inquiring as to the motivation for the word.

Fuck em I suppose, is what set you off Dagmar-Pretty strong a statement I suppose but not so much in the context of the motivation behind my problem with their culture-on-the-skids.

Evolution IN Action

dagsaid:

Quote hidden because you are ignoring dag.(show it anyway)

The irony of you as an American trash talking the Japanese for irradiating the Pacific is hilarious - and sad.

But seriously - racist comments like this get you an official warning. Please consult the guidelines if you need guidance.

chingalerasays...

Let me take a few moments to peruse some of your comments from past belchings, and throw your ass on the chopping-block as well...


'Cry racist, ARE Racist'.

Where are you from and what the fuck do you do here with spit-pop now but tattle-tale (feelings hurt) tattle-tale, hanging britches on the fucking CROSS?! Chime-in with an adequate response, or troll-in with a back-door message to an admin who could sincerely give, but feels he has to, a fuck?

I am seriously tired of being accused of bullshit of which I know is founded in dysfunction of another form strikingly similar to the accusations made against me.

Show me a Japanese member of this site or another head-in-ass whitey who is offended by my comment, and I'll show you no one. The ONLY Japanese(Canadian) artist who has ever been a member of this site, whose back I have had through promotes, support, entreats that she return, etc, etc, etc-fucking-cetera, left a long time ago because of the shit-think here, namely the lack of soul in my estimation.....
You Are WRONG, SDGundamX and Dag, so please, check that shit??


FUCK ME!

"on this one because I don't think comments like this are what the Sift is about."..'I don't think', may be your problem-Think again and maybe adjust a bit before you get too worked-up???

SDGundamXsaid:

Please take your racist bullshit to YouTube where it belongs and leave it off the Sift.

You want to be edgy and hijack threads, I get it. But you crossed the line with that remark which paints an entire people as, in your own words "dysfunctional" and "savages". I've never done this before, but I'm going to invoke @dag on this one because I don't think comments like this are what the Sift is about.

enochsays...

@chingalera
@SDGundamX
you guys should just make out and get it over with.

im with gundam on this.
its the definition of hypocrisy.

in fact i will even take it a step further.
did you guys know its a federal offense to take snapshots or video the giant corporate owned slaughter farms?

now companies like IBP like to site reasons such as "privacy" and "ownership" but the real reason isnt too hard to put together.if the american public ever saw how their cheeseburger came into existence the sales of beef and pork would plummet.

so while it may be disturbing to watch flipper getting corralled and mass executed,lets be at least honest with ourselves.

we view dolphins much like we view or cats and dogs.they are considered a "pet" class and not a "dinner" class.

the japanese do not.to them the dolphin is meat for dinner.

we would react the same to country fried lassie steaks and garfield goulosh.

now if we were talking how asia destroys the shark population JUST for their fins,then i think there would be a valid argument to be had.

but this is about dinner and our perspectives on certain animals.

what do you guys think?

*promote the discussion.

SDGundamXsays...

@chingalera

If you don't see how overgeneralizing in a derogatory sense an entire population based on their ethnic heritage (I'm pretty sure you weren't referring to the millions of European, American, Australian, South-east Asian, African, Middle Easter, etc. people who live in Japan) is racism then you truly belong on YouTube and not on the Sift. And yeah, if you had said Australians were dysfunctional savages that would not have been racist but just as stupidly xenophobic, overgeneralized, and stereotypical.

Here's the thing, though, I think you absolutely know all this. You're just, as usual, trying to be counter-Sift-cultural--trying to stir the pot, so to speak.

You are free to criticize Japanese culture. Here's the thing about "criticism" though--it's derived form the word "critical" as in "critical thinking." Unfortunately, I don't see any critical thinking going on in your posts here. You spewed a bunch of overgeneralized stereotypical bullshit (see this video--you're clearly not interested in truth but in evoking emotions in people) and when you got called on it, instead of providing any sort of evidence to make your case you tried to cover it up with some ad hominem and anecdotes.

I'm not asking you to not criticize Japanese culture. I'm not asking you to be politically correct or polite even. I'm not even asking you to stop "stirring the pot" on the Sift (because Zeus knows, sometimes the Sift needs it). I am, however, specifically asking you to not insult the intelligence of the Sift community by couching blatantly racist/stereotypical/overgeneralized statements in a faux-rational manner.

SDGundamXsays...

Sorry, I'm unclear why you are comparing killing a few hundred dolphins a year to killing the buffalo (which were slaughtered by the millions). I already said the international community should intervene if there was any threat to the continuation of the species by the hunting and no such threat has been shown. And livestock raising is as much of an ecological threat (see this U.N. report) if not more so than overfishing, seeing as it is directly tied to global warming.

I'm curious where you got the facts on Japanese cuisine? I'm also curious what you think the Japanese people should eat if not fish? Before replying, please read this incredibly well-researched essay about the state of food consumption and production in Japan. You'll also want to read this article about the state of maritime fishing which shows that Japan is not nearly as much of a culprit as you seem to be implying--many countries around the world rely on maritime fishing to feed their people--and that by properly managing fishing hauls sustainability can indeed be maintained. In Japan's case especially, because the population (and hence demand for food) will continue to decrease over the next 50 years.

I suspect you are not basing your opinions about Japan off of the evidence. Perhaps you read the articles about blue-fin tuna consumption (Japanese consume 80% of all blue-fin tuna caught and stocks are hitting dangerously low levels), in which case you definitely have an argument against consuming that particular fish but it seems a bit odd to extend that argument to say Japanese people should not be eating fish or that they somehow don't care about the environment.

Sagemindsaid:

My complaint is the over fishing of the waters, not just in their areas, but in International waters as well. Everyone else has agreed to slow or stop certain types of fishing but the Japanese just walk in and scoop everything up , with a "more for us attitude."

And fishing / killing animals that were bread for food stocks is much different than killing wild animals en mass, intelligent or otherwise. Remember the Buffalo? I would be just as put off if Canadians, rounded up hundreds of Caribou into herds and outright slaughtered them as well, humanly, inhumanly or otherwise.

I believe the Japanese have not solved the "feed it's population" problem, because it relies to much on the over fishing of the oceans. They are having to travel further and further out to catch enough fish to feed their population. So, it's unfortunate, but a slowly spiraling population is not all bad in an over populated area that cannot sustain that population.

I love that they use so much from the sea, I love Japanese food. I just wish they would have a better consideration for the environment. The oceans, although filled with food, is not a viable and sustainable source for food in the long run. They can't even begin to monitor the ecological damage they are doing.

Xaielaosays...

Fuck'a you DOLPHIN!

Sorry, couldn't help myself

You know the native american's butchered the bufallo by the thousands too right? Just like the early Europeans they learned that driving them off a cliff was a great way to get a whole seasons meat. And they didn't use 'every part of the animal' either.

It's amazing what TV and movies have taught people that simply isn't true.

chingalerasays...

SO far of the mark and warrants no response ,pshaw-
Issue might be the Dagcusation of racism which founded in bullshit and falls flaccid is utterly meaningless if the context is to be understood-Enoch, you know nothing of racism if that's the best you can do, I expressed remorse and disgust in my comment without a shred of racism, fuck THAT and your shallow assessment-re-visit YOUR roll please, and stop if you would placing shit in my mouth or diminishing the words.

SDGundamXsaid:

Sorry, I'm unclear why you are comparing killing a few hundred dolphins a year to killing the buffalo (which were slaughtered by the millions). I already said the international community should intervene if there was any threat to the continuation of the species by the hunting and no such threat has been shown. And livestock raising is as much of an ecological threat (see this U.N. report) if not more so than overfishing, seeing as it is directly tied to global warming.

I'm curious where you got the facts on Japanese cuisine? I'm also curious what you think the Japanese people should eat if not fish? Before replying, please read this incredibly well-researched essay about the state of food consumption and production in Japan. You'll also want to read this article about the state of maritime fishing which shows that Japan is not nearly as much of a culprit as you seem to be implying--many countries around the world rely on maritime fishing to feed their people--and that by properly managing fishing hauls sustainability can indeed be maintained. In Japan's case especially, because the population (and hence demand for food) will continue to decrease over the next 50 years.

I suspect you are not basing your opinions about Japan off of the evidence. Perhaps you read the articles about blue-fin tuna consumption (Japanese consume 80% of all blue-fin tuna caught and stocks are hitting dangerously low levels), in which case you definitely have an argument against consuming that particular fish but it seems a bit odd to extend that argument to say Japanese people should not be eating fish or that they somehow don't care about the environment.

chingalerasays...

We give a fuck about dolphins considering the torches lit so far at this stage in the rail-running, jump into a can of tuna you mammalian fuck-fish-It's not about the fish or dolphins at this point, MY beef is with white people and their insistence on not being able to derive meaning from the written word.NOT racist.

enochsays...

@chingalera
i wasnt addressing the validity of the racism warning.
i was addressing the hypocrisy gundam was pointing out.

do i think your commentary was racist?
no.
but thats between you and gundam and you both seem to be working it out (make out already).

but dont you find it interesting how people perceive other cultures? other societies? thats why i think this is a pretty cool discussion.

im no expert on japan so this all fascinates me.
i would like to know how you came to such a strong opinion about the japanese.

chingalerasays...

Well enoch, through observing the massive mind-fuck of their culture obviously, and passing judgement as is my preference to do so. It is because I am both fascinated and disgusted with them that I came to this bone-headed conclusion I suppose-Ask a self-actualized Japanese expatriate of their opinion of their own culture for another answer to the same question.

chingalerasays...

Look People.

Quite frankly, that comment from dag with that fucked-up, 'where-in-the-fuck-from-as-far-left-field-as-possible-did-THAT-come-from tone, timbre, pitch, and timing????? IS, in all my infamy here, about as close as it gets to me never coming back here to play again and telling this place to fuck completely off.
Just so all you who know or care and could give a fuck.....RIGHT?!

Someone, ANYONE, tell me why I should even fucking bother?

Because, looky....I KNOW you motherfuckers, all of you that play here nice or otherwise, need people like me, like....ME-

NOW. Everyone say that last sentence above to yourselves aloud, replacing the words 'you' and 'me' with the words "me' or 'you', and you begin to see how fucking insane you are all to you.

Ok now, @SDGundamX (you glorious fucker)

Agreed. You now have the esteemed privilege and honor to hold the leash and take me out for my pee-pees and poo-poos.

I will make no pot-stirring promises as to the emotional viability or culpability of certain users here, especially not of that of my own-self, as I cherish both pot and the stirring of pots.

chingalerasays...

Oh yeah and enoch? I consider myself an excellent and enthusiastic armchair expert on all-things Japan, including how fucking insane they ALL are, and you too. Oh and fuck racism or anyone with a clue thinking I am racist in the slightest or could ever even make a racist statement....

"You're all thniggers to me, and so am thnigh."
-Dr Zeus
Don't go to YouTube to fuck with anyone, come here because we like to fuck ourselves in one big giant play-room.

newtboyjokingly says...

Because, looky...I KNOW me motherfuckers, all of me that play here nice or otherwise, need people like you, like...YOU-

OK, I tried, and it only showed me that you don't seem to know English.

Sad to see you are having another angry fit here. I can't comprehend why you linger here when it does nothing for you but give a place to rant and get vehemently angry that others don't agree with you....while complaining that we only surf here because everyone will agree with everyone else (which is BS, but is your repeatedly stated position). Just WHY?

PS I must admit, I'm confused by your admonitions of Japanese culture when I consider the admonitions of all other cultures that you usually spout. I guess I shouldn't be surprised though, you apparently only talk crap about others, so why would I think you might have a bit of respect for a culture that doesn't have many of the problems you USUALLY complain about?

chingalerasaid:

Because, looky....I KNOW you motherfuckers, all of you that play here nice or otherwise, need people like me, like....ME-

NOW. Everyone say that last sentence above to yourselves aloud, replacing the words 'you' and 'me' with the words "me' or 'you', and you begin to see how fucking insane you are all to you.

newtboysays...

I must disagree. Because WE don't USE them as a food resource does not mean they aren't one...and even if you don't think they should be food for anyone (and I'm not sure why that should be the case, but I do understand why many people wouldn't want to eat them both because of sentimental and health/meat contamination reasons) they are used as a 'resource' in many countries including the USA...a tourism resource is still a resource.
Perhaps you meant 'dolphins should not be a food source'?

Sagemindsaid:

Dolphins are not a "Resource"

newtboyjokingly says...

Here's one. Crap! I just winked out of existence! Thanks Chingalera, now I don't exist! FUCK ME!

Edit: even your title is racist...I'm surprised no one else mentioned it.

chingalerasaid:

Show me a Japanese member of this site or another head-in-ass whitey who is offended by my comment, and I'll show you no one. FUCK ME!

Stormsingersays...

If only...

chingalerasaid:

Look People.

Quite frankly, that comment from dag with that fucked-up, 'where-in-the-fuck-from-as-far-left-field-as-possible-did-THAT-come-from tone, timbre, pitch, and timing????? IS, in all my infamy here, about as close as it gets to me never coming back here to play again and telling this place to fuck completely off.

SDGundamXsays...

@chingalera

Just so we're clear, I don't want you to leave the Sift, nor do I want you to tone down your anti-establishment commenting. I only went to @dag because you violated Sift commenting guidelines (see http://videosift.com/faq#comments specifically the part about "blatantly racist comments"). Dag agreed and you got a warning.

No one is banning you, no one is saying you don't belong here, no one is even saying "play nice" in the comment threads.

We're saying the Sift is not a forum for racist commentary. It's already been explained to you why your original comment was racist (i.e. ascribing negative traits to an entire group of people based on their ethnicity*).

No, I don't think that you, personally, are a racist.

But your comment was, whether you believe it or not. Deal with it and move on.

*Just so you're aware, the UN makes no distinction between "race" and "ethnicity" when discussing racism and racial discrimination. That is why I'm not engaging you in your attempts to justify your comments on the basis that you don't believe in races or the allegations that by calling out racism, I am somehow endorsing the notion of "races".

chingalerasays...

Again SD, I concur and appreciate your input and correct observation of my offhanded statements and I still hold Japan as a nation, responsible for their own cultural dysfunction.

The UN can suck a cock, and I appreciate sincerely your admonition of my obvious limitations. I must say here as well to newtboy, that you mistakenly assume rage when quite the contrary energized the fits you appropriately identified. If I am mad at all, it is only because of my diversion of staring into the mirror of souls at length, only to see all of mankind as equals.

The United Nations is a complete and utter piece of shit SD and it saddens to see the world as a lackey to their ruse. Perhaps give more of a fuck about the world you inhabit to evoke that illusory institution and racism in the same sentence?

I also consider paper currencies and television as tools of control, slavery, and as many vile things in the hands of children as you can imagine.

SDGundamXsaid:

@chingalera

Just so we're clear, I don't want you to leave the Sift, nor do I want you to tone down your anti-establishment commenting. I only went to @dag because you violated Sift commenting guidelines (see http://videosift.com/faq#comments specifically the part about "blatantly racist comments"). Dag agreed and you got a warning.

No one is banning you, no one is saying you don't belong here, no one is even saying "play nice" in the comment threads.

We're saying the Sift is not a forum for racist commentary. It's already been explained to you why your original comment was racist (i.e. ascribing negative traits to an entire group of people based on their ethnicity*).

No, I don't think that you, personally, are a racist.

But your comment was, whether you believe it or not. Deal with it and move on.

*Just so you're aware, the UN makes no distinction between "race" and "ethnicity" when discussing racism and racial discrimination. That is why I'm not engaging you in your attempts to justify your comments on the basis that you don't believe in races or the allegations that by calling out racism, I am somehow endorsing the notion of "races".

chingalerasays...

Yeah it's amazing huh, and 'FUCK YOU WHALES, as wail.The examples of native American and Anglo acting for convenience-sake as an analogous gesture is mute, they were ignorant savages back when....Better, stronger, faster is what the world is about nowadays, eh?

That folks can't understand the consternation of someone who may regard Japan with the contempt for the state of their psychological baggage of mindfuck that created the "today of Japan" that should be clearly seen by all humans with a conscience what can be seen clearly by the entire world with half a fucking brain, is not a concern...Love the Japanese, but they like all nations, cultures and peoples are hard-pressed to do the work needed to un-fuck themselves into the next paradigm of 'humans being' as fast as the planet's urgency warrants, all are guilty of an inevitability of self-immolation.

Japanese, Russians, the Swiss, and cunts with no ethnicity or countries that they know of, seem to suffer from the same state of illusion the entire world finds themselves suffering. Plus, females of all cultures are treated for the most part like shit by their males....kind of like most folks sit back and let those aquatic mammals closest to humankinder be so fucked .Incorrect? Provide examples or throw us in some penalty box and cry racism, or any 'ism' box, you fucking morons.

Are we, OVER-generalizing, or is herding mammals into an enclosure and poking them with sticks something that looks a-ok and sanction-able by sane, thoughtful peeps?? I would not wish this fate on a single Japanese citizen be they native or expatriate. Dolphins have cocks, just like humans do.

Have yourselves herded into an enclosure and experience what happens.

Oh and, fuck rules. Always have, always...will.

(Slinks-off to eat a dolphin sandwich and don boots and a vest made from similar hide, and read Mein fucking Kampfire, under the glow of a human-skin nightshade made from faux beaver.)

Xaielaosaid:

Fuck'a you DOLPHIN!

Sorry, couldn't help myself

You know the native american's butchered the bufallo by the thousands too right? Just like the early Europeans they learned that driving them off a cliff was a great way to get a whole seasons meat. And they didn't use 'every part of the animal' either.

It's amazing what TV and movies have taught people that simply isn't true.

Sagemindsays...

No pretty much meant that wild animals in any form are not a resource for countries to posses. I find a distaste for man's belief that everything on this planet is there for him. Other living beings are not resources. Sure we eat animals, that's the chain. But laying claim to them in terms of owned resources, I dislike.

newtboysaid:

I must disagree. Because WE don't USE them as a food resource does not mean they aren't one...and even if you don't think they should be food for anyone (and I'm not sure why that should be the case, but I do understand why many people wouldn't want to eat them both because of sentimental and health/meat contamination reasons) they are used as a 'resource' in many countries including the USA...a tourism resource is still a resource.
Perhaps you meant 'dolphins should not be a food source'?

newtboysays...

Oh. Well, it seems that it's the concept of ownership you don't like if I understand you. I have hippie cousins that talk that way (especially when they want something) until you ask them for money or something else they 'own', then suddenly the concept makes sense to them... momentarily. I dislike that hypocrisy far more that the concept of ownership...but that's just me.
EDIT: ...Also, I don't understand what you mean by 'laying claim to them'. If you eat it, you 'laid claim' to it, right? Japan isn't claiming they "own" all the dolphins, only the one's they catch to eat. I don't see this as different from ANY other wild caught food, do you? Can you explain?
Because something is used as a resource does not necessarily mean it's 'owned' by the user, for instance, air is a natural resource used by every person on earth (or off it), but it is not 'owned' by anyone. The same went for water until recently, it is now being claimed by those with the ability to claim it...sadly.

Sagemindsaid:

No pretty much meant that wild animals in any form are not a resource for countries to posses. I find a distaste for man's belief that everything on this planet is there for him. Other living beings are not resources. Sure we eat animals, that's the chain. But laying claim to them in terms of owned resources, I dislike.

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