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19 Comments
BSRsays...Damn you. Beat me by an hour!
Hmmm, 8 years and Obama never had to hire a lawyer.
bobknight33says...Obama set the new lower standard and Trump is just the next guy in line.
MEGA 2Q2Q
lurgeesays...covfefe 2020
MEGA 2Q2Q
newtboysays...The new lower standard....which was exponentially higher than the standard set by either the previous or subsequent president?
Do you not know how lowering standards works? To set a new low, you have to be worse than others.
8 years and Obama never had to hire a lawyer, not one indictment with the republicans frothing at the mouth daily over....well, obviously nothing, for all 8 years.
Trump, at 1.8 years in had 89 indictments and already 24 convictions (more now, 36 guilty pleas for Republican Mueller's investigation alone) with Republicans in FULL CONTROL (and he still couldn't get wall funding, Muslim bans, or kill the ACA, and barely even got his deficit exploding tax cut for millionaires).
Bush had 16 indictments, all convictions, and until Trump was considered our dumbest, most incompetent president...not anymore.
Every time you spout this kind of asinine brain dead stupidity, I will be here to save you with some fact. Claiming Obama set a new low standard means you have absolutely no grasp on reality, as it's simply embarrassingly wrong and easy to debunk factually. By every standard imaginable (morally, ethically, in civility, rationality, directionality, ability, honesty, FIDELITY, respect, etc.) he was and remains not just head and shoulders above Trump, he's miles above Trump and well above W.
It's very sad your baseless irrational hatred taints your viewpoint so thoroughly you would think that nonsense would fly....but since you just proudly flew a Q flag there, it's clear you're too far gone for fact or history to matter a whit.
Q=batshit crazy conspiracy nuts akin to flat earthers and breathairians, 100% worthy of shunning before they pull out a gun in your pizza place looking for child sex slaves, illuminati, and lizard people.
Just when I think you can't sink lower, you surprise me every time.
Btw, thanks to numerous states making releasing your tax returns mandatory to be on the ballot, Trump's 2020 chances are quickly becoming slim to none....hard to win if you aren't on the ballot, harder to win when it's shown you're a complete fraud and tax cheat.
Obama set the new lower standard and Trump is just the next guy in line.
MEGA 2Q2Q
cloudballoonsays...God knows how much Obama raised the standard against GWB. Who would've thought the next Republican guy in line after GWB can go this low...
Obama set the new lower standard and Trump is just the next guy in line.
MEGA 2Q2Q
bobknight33says...Muller report is out
Zero. Collusion
obstruction that raises to a nothing burger.
BOOM
The new lower standard....which was exponentially higher than the standard set by either the previous or subsequent president?
Do you not know how lowering standards works? To set a new low, you have to be worse than others.
8 years and Obama never had to hire a lawyer, not one indictment with the republicans frothing at the mouth daily over....well, obviously nothing, for all 8 years.
Trump, at 1.8 years in had 89 indictments and already 24 convictions (more now, 36 guilty pleas for Republican Mueller's investigation alone) with Republicans in FULL CONTROL (and he still couldn't get wall funding, Muslim bans, or kill the ACA, and barely even got his deficit exploding tax cut for millionaires).
Bush had 16 indictments, all convictions, and until Trump was considered our dumbest, most incompetent president...not anymore.
Every time you spout this kind of asinine brain dead stupidity, I will be here to save you with some fact. Claiming Obama set a new low standard means you have absolutely no grasp on reality, as it's simply embarrassingly wrong and easy to debunk factually. By every standard imaginable (morally, ethically, in civility, rationality, directionality, ability, honesty, FIDELITY, respect, etc.) he was and remains not just head and shoulders above Trump, he's miles above Trump and well above W.
It's very sad your baseless irrational hatred taints your viewpoint so thoroughly you would think that nonsense would fly....but since you just proudly flew a Q flag there, it's clear you're too far gone for fact or history to matter a whit.
Q=batshit crazy conspiracy nuts akin to flat earthers and breathairians, 100% worthy of shunning before they pull out a gun in your pizza place looking for child sex slaves, illuminati, and lizard people.
Just when I think you can't sink lower, you surprise me every time.
Btw, thanks to numerous states making releasing your tax returns mandatory to be on the ballot, Trump's 2020 chances are quickly becoming slim to none....hard to win if you aren't on the ballot, harder to win when it's shown you're a complete fraud and tax cheat.
newtboysays...Yeah, like you've read it. We know that's what Dumb Donny told you. You know it's the heavily edited report, and it's still clear evidence Trump lies more often than not. Duh, Bob. Maybe don't leap before you look.
Not zero, plenty of convictions and admissions already, just not proof of prosecutable illegal collusion directly by Trump. Retweeting the Russians propaganda designed to elect him is collusion, meeting with Russian agents looking for illicit "dirt" on your opponent is collusion. Hundreds of contacts with Russian agents by his people that he outright lied about and hid, tens of millions paid to those in his cabinet by Russia that they lied about and hid before being caught and convicted.
34 guilty pleas are > zero. *facepalm
https://youtu.be/9g6M07aiozc
Obstruction charge is not a nothing burger, it's also not over by far....it was quashed here by Barr, but Mueller was clear there was action that amounts to obstruction, but he was unable to charge the president due to DOJ rules and would not make a declaration if he couldn't make a charge. The report is clear, he was not allowed to make a conclusion, and Barr is a fixer for Trump, always has been clearly and unambiguously, it's why he was nominated.
The report delineated dozens of attempts to obstruct justice by Trump that his advisors knew were illegal and persuaded him to abandon....and they were usually fired for it.
What we can see undeniably is Trump has publicly outright lied about nearly every point in the report...thousands of times....and his administration has fully fallen in line and repeated his lies to you, now admitted under oath, but we know you don't care.
You wouldn't care that Barron's real mother is his 1/2 sister. There's absolutely nothing you could learn about Trump that would change your mind about him, cultists are like that.
We now know that when Trump said "fake news" it meant "that's true" every time.
We know for a fact that not a single person working for Trump is honest or trustworthy, every single one has lied to the public for Trump's benefit at the expense of the Union....doing Russia's work to divide us.
We know for a fact that you don't care he's a pathological fraud and liar because you love Trump far more than America. I believe firmly that if he raped your pre-teen daughter you would feel honored, not outraged.
You made a boom boom....and he's the fake/illegitimate president.
Edit: So I'll assume consistency and assume you just haven't gotten around to declaring there were no Clinton crimes either then, right? She actually WAS cleared in no uncertain terms after a number of purely political investigations, he was specifically not cleared in no uncertain terms after a republican led, highly interfered with investigation. If you're willing to declare it a nothing burger, what is the Clinton investigation, a nothing prime rib with a side of nothing fries and nothing pie for desert?
Muller report is out
Zero. Collusion
obstruction that raises to a nothing burger.
BOOM
Drachen_Jagersays...What happened to the Deep State?
Also, we have a redacted 400 page report and Barr's word as to what's in there (he has a history of outright lying in his summaries, so this can't be taken at face value).
We also have investigators for the Muller team saying Barr's conclusion does not follow from the report they handed him.
Incidentally, even Barr, as deep in the tank as he is for Trump, had to define "collusion" as equivalent to a criminally provable conspiracy in his summary to make it deniable. Clearly he wouldn't have needed to redefine the word if the President wasn't guilty under the standard definition. Ergo, clearly the President and his team DID collude with Russia. It may not amount to a federal crime, but they absolutely did collude. Hell, they've even admitted it publicly (after getting caught).
Muller report is out
Zero. Collusion
obstruction that raises to a nothing burger.
BOOM
BSRsays...Went to fatal car wreck once but at least there wasn't a fire.
Funny you should mention burger. Like minds think alike I guess.
BOOYA
Muller report is out
Zero. Collusion
obstruction that raises to a nothing burger.
BOOM
BSRsays...I would just like to say "Thank You" for the dedication and time you put into your replies to Bob.
I suspect Bob probably doesn't read your replies as I notice he never seems to debate you.
Know that your time IS well spent regardless of Bob. If it wasn't for him I'm not sure I or others would have learned as much as I have from your writing.
I appreciate what you do and your words aren't falling on deaf ears.
You've got passion.
I also think you already know all that.
Yeah, like you've read it. We know that's what Dumb Donny told you. Duh, Bob. Maybe don't leap before you look.
Not zero, plenty of convictions and admissions already, just not proof of prosecutable illegal collusion directly by Trump. Retweeting the Russians propaganda designed to elect him is collusion, meeting with Russian agents looking for illicit "dirt" on your opponent is collusion. Hundreds of contacts with Russian agents by his people that he outright lied about and hid, tens of millions paid to those in his cabinet by Russia that they lied about and hid before being caught and convicted.
34 guilty pleas are > zero. *facepalm
Obstruction charge is not a nothing burger, it's also not over by far....it was quashed here by Barr, but Mueller was clear there was action that amounts to obstruction, but he was unable to charge the president due to DOJ rules and would not make a declaration if he couldn't make a charge. The report is clear, he was not allowed to make a conclusion, and Barr is a fixer for Trump, always has been clearly and unambiguously, it's why he was nominated.
The report delineated dozens of attempts to obstruct justice by Trump that his advisors knew were illegal and persuaded him to abandon....and they were usually fired for it.
What we can see undeniably is Trump has publicly outright lied about nearly every point in the report...thousands of times....and his administration has fully fallen in line and repeated his lies to you, now admitted under oath, but we know you don't care.
You wouldn't care that Barron's real mother is his 1/2 sister. There's absolutely nothing you could learn about Trump that would change your mind about him, cultists are like that.
We now know that when Trump said "fake news" it meant "that's true" every time.
We know for a fact that not a single person working for Trump is honest or trustworthy, every single one has lied to the public for Trump's benefit at the expense of the Union....doing Russia's work to divide us.
We know for a fact that you don't care he's a pathological fraud and liar because you love Trump far more than America. I believe firmly that if he raped your daughter you would feel honored, not outraged.
You made a boom boom....and he's the fake/illegitimate president.
Edit: So I'll assume consistency and assume you just haven't gotten around to declaring there were no Clinton crimes either then, right? She actually WAS cleared in no uncertain terms after a number of purely political investigations, he was specifically not cleared in no uncertain terms after a republican led, highly interfered with investigation. If you're willing to declare it a nothing burger, what is the Clinton investigation, a nothing casserole with a side of nothing fries and nothing pie for desert?
newtboysays...Thanks.
If it's not obvious, my replies are mostly not meant for Bob. He is closed to any new information that isn't Trump branded. He does read some, and has repeatedly privately agreed with my assessments in an effort to look more reasonable and less Russian, but won't do so publicly.
My replies are meant to inject some fact into the debate, contradicting the cultist beliefs and known lies the right has no problem spreading today. Without contradiction, those lies gain traction with those ignorant of the facts, and once entrenched the lies are infinitely more difficult to eradicate.
It's nice to know I'm not just babbling into a void....at least not all the time.
I've got passion, with a capital P, and that rhymes with T, and that stands for trouble....right here in River city.
I would just like to say "Thank You" for the dedication and time you put into your replies to Bob.
I suspect Bob probably doesn't read your replies as I notice he never seems to debate you.
Know that your time IS well spent regardless of Bob. If it wasn't for him I'm not sure I or others would have learned as much as I have from your writing.
I appreciate what you do and your words aren't falling on deaf ears.
You've got passion.
bobknight33says...Jerry Nadler In 1998 Contradicts Everything Jerry Nadler In 2019 Has To Say
newtboysays...Oh Bob, comparing apples to turd sandwiches again I see.
Let's see the other video comparing the Republican's position in 98 to their position today....oops, I guess you forgot they were insistent that it ALL be public when it was about Clinton, including destroying uncharged individuals like Lewinsky, grand jury testimony, finances, taxes, etc. Back then it was unconscionable that any snippet of information Starr found be kept private, the public had a right to know everything they can about the president, today they argued the Barr report was the end all, no need to open the redacted Mueller report at all, forget letting anyone see it all even in closed session and absolutely not the public, ever....and the unredacted report should probably be destroyed before it leaks.
Just duh, Bob. You're grasping again.
Jerry Nadler In 1998 Contradicts Everything Jerry Nadler In 2019 Has To Say
Sagemindsays...Not trying to be mean - but from way over here, you have no idea how dumb you sound - Please take the time to educate yourself with news other than the propaganda machine.
-for your own benefit. I say this not to make you look bad, but to help you out and make you a little more self-aware.
Muller report is out
Zero. Collusion
obstruction that raises to a nothing burger.
BOOM
BSRsays...Bob is a "I'm rubber, you're glue" kinda guy. But he does seem to summon the truth inadvertently.
Not trying to be mean - but from way over here, you have no idea how dumb you sound - Please take the time to educate yourself with news other than the propaganda machine.
-for your own benefit. I say this not to make you look bad, but to help you out and make you a little more self-aware.
Sagemindsays...... referring specifically to how quick he is at paroting Trumps words, and the words Fox news was quick to repeat - and now bobnight33
When we already know that Trump glazzed over everything and just spurted his version. We all know these things are never black and white, and we all know how much of a lier Trump is.
Not a single word out of Trump's mouth is to be trusted - and anyone who trusts his word needs their head checked.
#unfortunate
--finished now - no more words from me
bobknight33says...FACTS. Trump is braggadocios but not guilty of anything
I'm not way out there I'm right over target
Not trying to be mean - but from way over here, you have no idea how dumb you sound - Please take the time to educate yourself with news other than the propaganda machine.
-for your own benefit. I say this not to make you look bad, but to help you out and make you a little more self-aware.
newtboysays...Fact: Trump plead guilty to fraud charges
BSRsays...I'm the bad guy?
FACTS. Trump is braggadocios but not guilty of anything
I'm not way out there I'm right over target
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