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Brilliant.

This is me watching this.

Powerful.

>> ^justathinker:
This is me watching this.


You have a flame thrower?

you would have thought if u can write a pritty decent poeim that highlights all the idoitic things and redundency of christantiy and the core things that the majorty of the followers belive in , that you would come to the conclusoin that organized religoin is pritty stupoid, and that there is no benofit to bing religouse ,

you would allso hope that sumone that has a good crasp of language would be able to work out forthemselfs that the bible is not actualy the word of god.

>> ^westy:

you would have thought if u can write a pritty decent poeim that highlights all the idoitic things and redundency of christantiy and the core things that the majorty of the followers belive in , that you would come to the conclusoin that organized religoin is pritty stupoid, and that there is no benofit to bing religouse ,
you would allso hope that sumone that has a good crasp of language would be able to work out forthemselfs that the bible is not actualy the word of god.


You would also hope that someone with a good grasp of language would know that pretty is spelt with an e, grasp with a g, and themselves with a v.

I may be wrong, but I don't think he actually is a Christian - he's just written the poem that way to have a greater impact.

First of all, by creating this video you are guilty of the same thing you are accusing Christians of. Second, everyone who claims to be a Christian isn't a Christian. The bible is clear in many places that there are a lot of people who will claim to be Christian who really aren't ( Matthew 7). Third,do you hold yourself to the same standards you are holding Christians? Christians are people just like anyone else. We are imperfect we make mistakes and anyone who claims to be perfect isn't a Christian at all according to 1 John. But if you can't live up to the standards you set for other you are nothing more than a hypocrite yourself. Fourth, the characteristics of the people you are describing do not fit what the bible says a Christian is in the first place. That is society's stereotypical view of what a Christian is and Satan has done well at getting people to believe that lie. The people you are describing are self-righteous "religious" people, not Christians. Can Christians tend to be that way at times? Yes! But again we are imperfect. We are all a work in progress that will not be completed until we get to heaven. Are we any better NO. If there is any difference in any Christian that ever was or will be, God made the difference, not the man. You see a person who understands that they have nothing good in and of themselves and their only hope is what Christ has done for them can't boast about themselves. All they can boast about is how wonderful Christ is in spite of how awful they are. I didn't contribute anything to my salvation, God did it all. How can I not show the same unconditional love He has shown me to others. The bible says anyone who doesn't love isn't of God. So there, if the people who call themselves Christians aren't loving, no matter what they say, the bible says they are not truly Christian in the first place.
Lastly, remember Jesus Christ was perfect He never did anything wrong to anyone. He was the most loving person to ever walk the face of the earth. The bible says God is love. And yet they hated Him. They nailed Him to a cross to die.That shows that even if Christians were perfect and perfectly loving in everything they said or did people would still hate them. The bible says Satan is the accuser of the brethren.

Jesus said,

John 15:18-21
18“If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. 19If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you. 20Remember the words I spoke to you: ‘No servant is greater than his master.’b If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also. If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey yours also. 21They will treat you this way because of my name, for they do not know the One who sent me.

Watch This Video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23LaK99PEko

>> ^Nlt42886:

Second, everyone who claims to be a Christian isn't a Christian.


I guess you're on the boat with selective exclusion. I suppose those people won't have a place in your "heaven" either.

You are a member of a cult and should be treated as such. You have been brainwashed.

There's nothing wrong with being introspective and criticizing your own beliefs, admitting your faults and the faults of the people you associate with.

>> ^Truckchase:
>> ^Nlt42886:
Second, everyone who claims to be a Christian isn't a Christian.

I guess you're on the boat with selective exclusion. I suppose those people won't have a place in your "heaven" either.
You are a member of a cult and should be treated as such. You have been brainwashed.


You do a lot of "guessing" and "supposing" but everything you just said is all your opinion. You say Christians are exclusive but everyone is exclusive. Everyone has a view that excludes all other views. Your view excludes my view. Even if you say you accept all views that itself is a view that excludes all views. I don't speak my opinion, I let scripture speak for itself. If you are going to say something you have to have some basis for why you are saying it. But if I were to ask you "says who" would you be able to say what you said is based on anything more than your opinion. If I claim to be a Christian and we are talking about Christian things, the bible is the only authority I have, not my opinions. Not what I think not what you or anyone else thinks but what scripture says. Otherwise we could go in circles all day debating our opinions. Scripture backs me up on what I said about everyone who claims to be a Christian isn't a Christian. I am debating on whether or not certain people are Christians not whether or not Christianity is true. If you are going to hold a debate on what a Christian is, you must not go on opinions, you must first assume the bible is true since the argument isn't on what religion is true but it is on what does a true Christian look like on the basis of what the book they hold as the ultimate authority says a true Christian is. See the video posted was about Christians not about why their religion is wrong or which one is right. It starts with the assumption that a Christian DOES exist. He simply states in his video what HE sees a Christian as but that does not mean that is what a Christian is. If you are going to define a Christian you do not go by the way some people who claim to be Christians act. You must go by the biblical definition of a Christian and see if they line up with what the bible says. The bible tells people who profess to be Christians to test themselves to see if they really are all the time. How would you be able to do that if there were not some distinguishing marks of a true Christian? Here is what scripture says regarding false professors.



Matthew 7:21-23

21“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. 22“Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ 23“And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.’

great sift....wish I could give it a quality tag....i spend hours sifting looking for nuggets like this...I would have a much higher opinion of Christianity if more Christians were like this guy....I guess it's the bad apples who are most visible....

The Gospel according to St. Matthew 7:1-3
(Lk. 6.3738, 4142)
1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. (Mk. 4.24)
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

>> ^Nlt42886:

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>> ^Nlt42886:

>> ^Truckchase:
>> ^Nlt42886:
Second, everyone who claims to be a Christian isn't a Christian.

I guess you're on the boat with selective exclusion. I suppose those people won't have a place in your "heaven" either.
You are a member of a cult and should be treated as such. You have been brainwashed.

Jesus said, etc.
You're still in a cult. Your perseverance won't outlast our enlightenment.

I'm sorry you're a Christian too.

being christian and being a child-molesting, anti-Semite, anti-Islam, pro-life homophobe are not mutually exclusive.

>> ^burdturgler:
The Gospel according to St. Matthew 7:1-3
(Lk. 6.3738, 4142)
1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. (Mk. 4.24)
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
>> ^Nlt42886:
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Are you using that against me or against the guy in the video? Because only one of us was judging, I was going by what scripture says which isn't judging. If scriputre says something is true and I state what scripture says I am not being the judge I am letting GOD be the judge. But as far as making judgements go, we are called to make judgments on certain things based on our best knowledge and careful consideration of the situation. Even then we do not say this is DEFINITELY the case. We say to the best of my discernment this is the case. Which still leaves the possibility we are wrong. And we only have to do that on things scripture isn't crystal clear about.


John 7:24
"Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment."

1 Corinthians 6:2
Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world is to be judged by you, are you incompetent to try trivial cases?

But as far as judging goes you can't take on part of scripture and use only that...take more....use ALL of what the bible says about it....Here is a whole page on it
http://www.biblebelievers.com/jmelton/Judging.html

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve." -Bilbo

Fuck slam poetry

/derail

http://tinyurl.com/336t6hx
There you go

>> ^dannym3141:

Fuck slam poetry
/derail

>> ^LarsaruS:

http://tinyurl.com/336t6hx
There you go
>> ^dannym3141:
Fuck slam poetry
/derail



Do your research, son! Slam poetry sifts and i have a history.

Wow. A person nitpicking other people who belong to a different belief. This is new, and edgy. Oh - wait - I meant to say 'old' and 'trite'. Yawn - nothing to see here.

Though I searched the world so broad - though I flew and ran
I never found the atheist that taught to be a better man.
Though I plumbed every house and street and knocked on every door
I never met found the agnost who said that I must help the poor.
Both these spoke many words of wroth, of selfishness and rue
But virtue I only found was praised as I sat upon the pew.

@Nlt42886

jesustube is ---> that way.

You're going to have a helluva boring stay here if all you do is argue with the giant population of athiest sifters. Kinda like WP and his arguing with... everybody else.

"If there is any difference in any Christian that ever was or will be, God made the difference, not the man"

That, I personally take offense to. God doesn't make the people, a man decides his own fate based upon what he wants in life. You can spout your religious gibbity-goop all you like, you'll only be met with answers like mine. You will be rebuked and proven wrong.

You will be shown the hypocrisy of your own words, much like you have been already by burd.

"If I claim to be a Christian and we are talking about Christian things, the bible is the only authority I have, not my opinions."

Your opinions are based upon the bible. If you are a christian, and follow the 'faith' then you're basing everything upon one book. Everything you believe and think about are based upon said book. It's one in the same.

You've posted 3 comments in your [brief] time here at videosift. If I were you, I'd consider toning it down, or moving to a different website more suited to your ideals.

>> ^Winstonfield_Pennypacker:

Wow. A person nitpicking other people who belong to a different belief. This is new, and edgy. Oh - wait - I meant to say 'old' and 'trite'. Yawn - nothing to see here.
Though I searched the world so broad - though I flew and ran
I never found the atheist that taught to be a better man.
Though I plumbed every house and street and knocked on every door
I never met found the agnost who said that I must help the poor.
Both these spoke many words of wroth, of selfishness and rue
But virtue I only found was praised as I sat upon the pew.


If it's so "old" and "trite" then why do you proceed to do exactly that in practically THE VERY NEXT SENTENCE; in the form of hokey Christian poetry?!

Self awareness. Have some.

If it's so "old" and "trite" then why do you proceed to do exactly that in practically THE VERY NEXT SENTENCE; in the form of hokey Christian poetry?!

It was to set the trap - so deftly - that you have fallen into. This kid isn't edgy. Or smart. Or even a good poet. He's just one of a billion douchebags with an axe to grind. Any twit that can string a rhyme together can do it. He doesn't make a good point. He just illustrates his own prejudices. And you think it's clever. Except - of course - when someone else does the EXACT SAME THING on a topic you don't like, eh wot?

I don't see anyone else complaining about honest criticism or tone. You assume too much in my pointing out your own none-too-transparent hypocrisy. I didn't even upvote this because personally I'm not too keen on this type of stuff, I did however upvote a few comments that I agreed with.

Sorry to shatter your hastily constructed preconceptions (filtered through your own kooky prejudices) of me and other atheists but we are certainly NOT homogenous except for one tiny niggling little detail.

Well that took forever and was tedious as crap to type on an iPod...worth it? Maybe.

My imaginary friend is better than your imaginary friend.

*nsfw *canada

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>> ^Winstonfield_Pennypacker:

Though I searched the world so broad - though I flew and ran
I never found the atheist that taught to be a better man.
Though I plumbed every house and street and knocked on every door
I never met found the agnost who said that I must help the poor.



You must have been looking in a very religious neighbourhood, because all I can say is that most of the non-believers I know are just as, or more so, altruistic as any religious person I know. The difference is perhaps that they dont brag so loudly and judge so confidently and feel themselves so morally superior as certain religious cults do. Take, for instance the largest cult in the world, the Catholic Church, For all their preaching about selflessness, sacrifice, guilt and blah,blah blah, when it comes right down to it, they'll happily protect kiddy fuckers and sacrifice children to protect their cult. So take your religious moral superiority and shove it.

http://www.thinkatheist.com/notes/Secular_charities
http://freethoughtpedia.com/wiki/Charities
http://www.secularstudents.org/node/2968

Yes he is very loving just like this passage says from your bible...

I will not follow an invisible man who I cannot hear or see who wants me to love him more then my family or friends.. pretty sad in my opinion



Matthew 10
34"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn
" 'a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law -
36a man's enemies will be the members of his own household.'[e]

37"Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves his son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me; 38and anyone who does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me. 39Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.

>> ^Nlt42886:

Lastly, remember Jesus Christ was perfect He never did anything wrong to anyone. He was the most loving person to ever walk the face of the earth. The bible says God is love. And yet they hated Him. They nailed Him to a cross to die.That shows that even if Christians were perfect and perfectly loving in everything they said or did people would still hate them. The bible says Satan is the accuser of the brethren.

Ugh... I hate it when people quote the bible to me as if it has any authority on anything.

Why not quote the Koran, or the Egyptian book of the dead?

Oh, I forgot, your religion is "real" all the others are just delusional people who believe something wrong. And of course you know your little magic book is "right" because you "just feel it" or better yet "god told you so."

If I say that I talk to Napoleon Bonapart in my head, I get put away by the men dressed in white, yet a majority in this country believe they talk to some magic guy in the sky (and I'm not just talking about Christians here) and that is totally acceptable, even though he tells them to hate (or worse) their fellow human beings.

Religion needs to go.

And just so we are clear: Jesus is a total Asshole.

See for proof:
http://videosift.com/video/Jesus-Nukes-The-Earth-with-Fireballs

*quality

Boosting this quality contribution up in the Hot Listing - declared quality by bleedmegood.

apology not accepted

>> ^ponceleon:

And just so we are clear: Jesus is a total Asshole.
See for proof:
http://videosift.com/video/Jesus-Nukes-The-Earth-with-Fireballs


* Opens up the Encyclopaedia Britannica and looks up the definition of total Asshole *
OYG (Oh Your God) you are right!

And that video was awesome!

I've never upvoted so many comments before.

In her book "Nickel and Dimed" Barbara Ehrenreich posed as a working class person and took many low paying jobs to see how the other half live. When she worked as a waitress she saw that the most abusive and lowest tipping people were the "obvious" Xtians. People who wore shirts that said, "Christ died for Your sins" and crosses were abusive and penny-pinching jerks who looked down on anyone they saw as "beneath them".

I have a lot of respect for people who try to live as Jesus did (they are quite rare), but most Xtians are self-righteous jerk-offs.