I was thinking "1985?! You had to have been like five years old!"

Did anyone realize that Dan Savage is 46? I'd wondered, because he never seems to age.. But gee.

"There's a line of Australians behind you waiting to go next" = upvote

*quality

Boosting this quality contribution up in the Hot Listing - declared quality by arvana.

Fuck everything about this.


Hehe.

Videosift, the progressive secular humanists of the new internet? You can check the tempurature of the beliefs here by who the sift repeatedly gives a voice. Apparently homosexual atheists are in force these days.

Since the sift is so anti-christian, I don't mind speaking up about these things. Homosexuality is a sin, period. You're not born that way. We're all born with a fallen nature, with a predisposition for sinning. People have different trials. Homosexuals aren't a special class of people deserving special rights. That is a joke. They are people who are faced with this sin in particular, for whatever reason.

What Dan Savage does isn't sex. It's consensual sodomy. Thats part of what evil does is redefine the meanings of things. The love that two gay men have for eachother is not beautiful, it is repulsive. God does not approve of their union, and they should never be married. What they love is sin, and sin is not beautiful. It is an abomination before the Lord.


A group of sinners have actually convinced this corrupt culture that they deserve special rights for sinning. lol. It just shows you how far gone this country/world is. Yes, all of this so people can park their junk in whatever they want..anything but what God wants, notice, that is the key point. People who embrace sin as they do could never please God. You can't serve two masters. Gay rights? Sinners have no rights, they are a slave to sin. America is becoming more like babylon every day, especially in what it deserves as punishment for its actions.

>> ^shinyblurry:

Videosift, the progressive secular humanists of the new internet? You can check the tempurature of the beliefs here by who the sift repeatedly gives a voice. Apparently homosexual atheists are in force these days.
Since the sift is so anti-christian, I don't mind speaking up about these things. Homosexuality is a sin, period. You're not born that way. We're all born with a fallen nature, with a predisposition for sinning. People have different trials. Homosexuals aren't a special class of people deserving special rights. That is a joke. They are people who are faced with this sin in particular, for whatever reason.
What Dan Savage does isn't sex. It's consensual sodomy. Thats part of what evil does is redefine the meanings of things. The love that two gay men have for eachother is not beautiful, it is repulsive. God does not approve of their union, and they should never be married. What they love is sin, and sin is not beautiful. It is an abomination before the Lord.

A group of sinners have actually convinced this corrupt culture that they deserve special rights for sinning. lol. It just shows you how far gone this country/world is. Yes, all of this so people can park their junk in whatever they want..anything but what God wants, notice, that is the key point. People who embrace sin as they do could never please God. You can't serve two masters. Gay rights? Sinners have no rights, they are a slave to sin. America is becoming more like babylon every day, especially in what it deserves as punishment for its actions.


Yay, a christian with little other than hate in his/her heart, my absolute favourite contradiction!

Shhhh shh shh

Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag.(show it anyway)

It's the same destructive energy as the Taliban - seems to exist in every culture - dudes want to get married so the US deserves to fall like Babylon. They don't see it as psycho because the little man in their head (God) tells them it's the way things should be. >> ^alien_concept:

>> ^shinyblurry:
Videosift, the progressive secular humanists of the new internet? You can check the tempurature of the beliefs here by who the sift repeatedly gives a voice. Apparently homosexual atheists are in force these days.
Since the sift is so anti-christian, I don't mind speaking up about these things. Homosexuality is a sin, period. You're not born that way. We're all born with a fallen nature, with a predisposition for sinning. People have different trials. Homosexuals aren't a special class of people deserving special rights. That is a joke. They are people who are faced with this sin in particular, for whatever reason.
What Dan Savage does isn't sex. It's consensual sodomy. Thats part of what evil does is redefine the meanings of things. The love that two gay men have for eachother is not beautiful, it is repulsive. God does not approve of their union, and they should never be married. What they love is sin, and sin is not beautiful. It is an abomination before the Lord.

A group of sinners have actually convinced this corrupt culture that they deserve special rights for sinning. lol. It just shows you how far gone this country/world is. Yes, all of this so people can park their junk in whatever they want..anything but what God wants, notice, that is the key point. People who embrace sin as they do could never please God. You can't serve two masters. Gay rights? Sinners have no rights, they are a slave to sin. America is becoming more like babylon every day, especially in what it deserves as punishment for its actions.

Yay, a christian with little other than hate in his/her heart, my absolute favourite contradiction!
Shhhh shh shh

Holy shit you're nuts.

Can you just make some dumb comment to get yourself insta-banned so I don't have to know that you exist as a person anymore?

>> ^shinyblurry:
Homosexuality is a sin, period. You're not born that way. We're all born with a fallen nature, with a predisposition for sinning. Gay rights? Sinners have no rights, they are a slave to sin. America is becoming more like babylon every day, especially in what it deserves as punishment for its actions.

Yeah, well.. that's just, like, your opinion, man.>> ^shinyblurry:

Videosift, the progressive secular humanists of the new internet? You can check the tempurature of the beliefs here by who the sift repeatedly gives a voice. Apparently homosexual atheists are in force these days.
Since the sift is so anti-christian, I don't mind speaking up about these things. Homosexuality is a sin, period. You're not born that way. We're all born with a fallen nature, with a predisposition for sinning. People have different trials. Homosexuals aren't a special class of people deserving special rights. That is a joke. They are people who are faced with this sin in particular, for whatever reason.
What Dan Savage does isn't sex. It's consensual sodomy. Thats part of what evil does is redefine the meanings of things. The love that two gay men have for eachother is not beautiful, it is repulsive. God does not approve of their union, and they should never be married. What they love is sin, and sin is not beautiful. It is an abomination before the Lord.

A group of sinners have actually convinced this corrupt culture that they deserve special rights for sinning. lol. It just shows you how far gone this country/world is. Yes, all of this so people can park their junk in whatever they want..anything but what God wants, notice, that is the key point. People who embrace sin as they do could never please God. You can't serve two masters. Gay rights? Sinners have no rights, they are a slave to sin. America is becoming more like babylon every day, especially in what it deserves as punishment for its actions.

http://i.imgur.com/pt7KD.png

@shinyblurry

Homosexuals don't want special rights; they want the same rights afforded to every human being regardless of sexual preference. That is not a joke, though I guarantee plenty of people are laughing at you right now.

And lo, The Lord said, "You shall not enjoy sex. Instead, I want you to feel shame for your natural reaction to stimuli. Guilt too. Don't forget about guilt. When you are ashamed and guilty you are easier to control!"

Wait... god didn't say that... humans did.

But since I just wrote it down and said that GOD said it, it must have been GOD.

>> ^shinyblurry:

Videosift, the progressive secular humanists of the new internet? You can check the tempurature of the beliefs here by who the sift repeatedly gives a voice. Apparently homosexual atheists are in force these days.
Since the sift is so anti-christian, I don't mind speaking up about these things. Homosexuality is a sin, period. You're not born that way. We're all born with a fallen nature, with a predisposition for sinning. People have different trials. Homosexuals aren't a special class of people deserving special rights. That is a joke. They are people who are faced with this sin in particular, for whatever reason.
What Dan Savage does isn't sex. It's consensual sodomy. Thats part of what evil does is redefine the meanings of things. The love that two gay men have for eachother is not beautiful, it is repulsive. God does not approve of their union, and they should never be married. What they love is sin, and sin is not beautiful. It is an abomination before the Lord.

A group of sinners have actually convinced this corrupt culture that they deserve special rights for sinning. lol. It just shows you how far gone this country/world is. Yes, all of this so people can park their junk in whatever they want..anything but what God wants, notice, that is the key point. People who embrace sin as they do could never please God. You can't serve two masters. Gay rights? Sinners have no rights, they are a slave to sin. America is becoming more like babylon every day, especially in what it deserves as punishment for its actions.


I am having a hell of a hard time working out if this is just an elaborate parody of fear-mongering bigotry or not. It's just too good.

Sorry, it isn't bigotry. I just don't see homosexuals are being seperate or different than anyone else, because they're not. They're sinners, and what they do is sin. It doesn't make them special, it actually makes them quite common. If someone is going to lead a sinful lifestyle, no one should support it.

God gave us rules to live by and one of them is to refrain from homosexual relations. It's only recently that earth has become so corrupt and fallen so far that anyone would actually consider giving these sodomites special status in society. if it wasn't so sad it would be amusing.

>> ^shinyblurry:

Sorry, it isn't bigotry. I just don't see homosexuals are being seperate or different than anyone else, because they're not. They're sinners, and what they do is sin. It doesn't make them special, it actually makes them quite common. If someone is going to lead a sinful lifestyle, no one should support it.
God gave us rules to live by and one of them is to refrain from homosexual relations. It's only recently that earth has become so corrupt and fallen so far that anyone would actually consider giving these sodomites special status in society. if it wasn't so sad it would be amusing.


Every day you break a commandment or something set right by god. Who the fuck are YOU to say anything? you bible thumping preacher wannabes annoy me because you come on sites and throw your views at people when you themselves are breaking them, there is no way a " true " christian can live in this day and age without breaking something in the bible. You religious zealots are so full of your own judgmental shit it would surprise you to smell your underpants. But god loves you, so sleep well.

First of all, it's not special status that they are seeking; it's equal status. This will fit in nicely with the whole "I just don't see homosexuals are being seperate or different than anyone else, because they're not" thing.

Second, the rules that you are referring to come from the old testament. All of the stupid rules of the old testament, like cutting off your hand if it causes you to sin, were kind of like, you know, made fun of by this dude that began preaching around 30 C.E. He had some craaaaaazy ideas like loving your enemy, helping the poor, serving others, respecting women, paying taxes, and just generally being kind to every one even if they are mean to you. He also enjoyed just chilling with sinners. It was like, his favourite thing to do. His ideas were so radical that he was executed (to death) by close minded, selfish people, that thought that it was better to oppress people than treat them nice. "That Jesus dude will cause an uprising against us! Let's kill him!"

I find it incredibly ironic that it is the atheists that I know who actually live humble and caring lives that are closer to Jesus' teachings than the so called Christians who are only selfish beings, interested in what Jesus can do for them, i.e. granting them eternal life.

So, if you're going to call yourself a Christian, please, start treating others with kindness and actually ask your self "what would Jesus do?" I'm pretty sure that if Jesus met Dan Savage they would probably go for a beer together and chill out. Maybe they would even get high? After that Dan would give Jesus some sex tips. Jesus certainly wouldn't condemn someone for who they love.

Happy Easter.>> ^shinyblurry:

Sorry, it isn't bigotry. I just don't see homosexuals are being seperate or different than anyone else, because they're not. They're sinners, and what they do is sin. It doesn't make them special, it actually makes them quite common. If someone is going to lead a sinful lifestyle, no one should support it.
God gave us rules to live by and one of them is to refrain from homosexual relations. It's only recently that earth has become so corrupt and fallen so far that anyone would actually consider giving these sodomites special status in society. if it wasn't so sad it would be amusing.

Oh, sorry, forgot to mention.

Eating potato chips, brushing your teeth, and stubbing your toe are all now sins.

No seriously, I found this rock in my back yard that said

"New sins:
Stubbing toes
Potato chips
Brushing of the teeth
~God"

Looks pretty old, and it's carved. Now, I mean, This is indisputable evidence that god exists and said these things are bad, so we all have to obey them now and never think of how idiotic following it may be.

>> ^shinyblurry:

Sorry, it isn't bigotry. I just don't see homosexuals are being seperate or different than anyone else, because they're not. They're sinners, and what they do is sin. It doesn't make them special, it actually makes them quite common. If someone is going to lead a sinful lifestyle, no one should support it.
God gave us rules to live by and one of them is to refrain from homosexual relations. It's only recently that earth has become so corrupt and fallen so far that anyone would actually consider giving these sodomites special status in society. if it wasn't so sad it would be amusing.


The reality is, when most of us hear this kind of desperate hate against homosexuality, the usual course of thought is, "oh ho, latent gay tendencies, well and truly closeted, sad ". So as long as that doesn't bother you, do go on...

everyone just lay off shinyblurry ok? i mean look at that tattoo. we don't need to make things worse.

do as i say or my gay atheist friends on the sift (of which apparently there are many?!) will find you and throw glitter in your eyes.

>> ^shinyblurry:

Sorry, it isn't bigotry. I just don't see homosexuals are being seperate or different than anyone else, because they're not. They're sinners, and what they do is sin. It doesn't make them special, it actually makes them quite common. If someone is going to lead a sinful lifestyle, no one should support it.
God gave us rules to live by and one of them is to refrain from homosexual relations. It's only recently that earth has become so corrupt and fallen so far that anyone would actually consider giving these sodomites special status in society. if it wasn't so sad it would be amusing.


I don't get it. The assumptions that you've made about the world (that god exists, that the bible is the word of a divine entity) aren't assumptions universally shared. Why should anyone allow you any of their time, especially if this bizarre ranting is your approach to the subject?

"First of all, it's not special status that they are seeking; it's equal status. This will fit in nicely with the whole "I just don't see homosexuals are being seperate or different than anyone else, because they're not" thing."

They already have equal status. When they seek to separate themselves from everyone else by their lifestyle choices, they don't deserve special recognition. If you're going to do that, then you are going to reap consequences. This is a society that even wants to empower kids to be gay, and it's sad what happens to them. They don't know what is happening to them, or why. They're taught this is normal. Well, that much is right. Among humans sinning is very normal.

"Second, the rules that you are referring to come from the old testament. All of the stupid rules of the old testament, like cutting off your hand if it causes you to sin, were kind of like, you know, made fun of by this dude that began preaching around 30 C.E. He had some craaaaaazy ideas like loving your enemy, helping the poor, serving others, respecting women, paying taxes, and just generally being kind to every one even if they are mean to you. He also enjoyed just chilling with sinners. It was like, his favourite thing to do. His ideas were so radical that he was executed (to death) by close minded, selfish people, that thought that it was better to oppress people than treat them nice. "That Jesus dude will cause an uprising against us! Let's kill him!"

I find it incredibly ironic that it is the atheists that I know who actually live humble and caring lives that are closer to Jesus' teachings than the so called Christians who are only selfish beings, interested in what Jesus can do for them, i.e. granting them eternal life."


Hey captain, why don't you leave bible interpertation to the experts. No, it's not just the OT that lays down the rules about homosexuality. The NT has them too. It's a good idea to be well versed in something before you correct someone who is well versed in something. And this pathetic image of Jesus running around with the sinners saying "Hey, it's all alright man", this is the filter of someone who has no idea what is in the bible or what it means.

Come on, anyone who puts humble and atheist in the same sentence can't think anyone is going to take them seriously. Seriously, if we were to pop some of these egos here you'd be in danger of creating a sonic boom. I find it amusing that atheists like to say they are all great happy loving people who actually do more good works than the average Christian does. LOL This must be your non-neckbearded internet dwelling variety. Not at all the bitter, purile, egotists who love to trash believers at any opportunity that I've experienced. I'm sorry but atheists are terrible people. Immoral, selfish and apathetic to a T. Violent and angry too. Atheists are usually the worst kind of people you could imagine.

>> ^BoneRemake:
>> ^shinyblurry:
Sorry, it isn't bigotry. I just don't see homosexuals are being seperate or different than anyone else, because they're not. They're sinners, and what they do is sin. It doesn't make them special, it actually makes them quite common. If someone is going to lead a sinful lifestyle, no one should support it.
God gave us rules to live by and one of them is to refrain from homosexual relations. It's only recently that earth has become so corrupt and fallen so far that anyone would actually consider giving these sodomites special status in society. if it wasn't so sad it would be amusing.

Every day you break a commandment or something set right by god. Who the fuck are YOU to say anything? you bible thumping preacher wannabes annoy me because you come on sites and throw your views at people when you themselves are breaking them, there is no way a " true " christian can live in this day and age without breaking something in the bible. You religious zealots are so full of your own judgmental shit it would surprise you to smell your underpants. But god loves you, so sleep well.


God loves everyone, first of all. Second, I have as much right to say what I did as you did what you said to me. You're entitled to your malformed, tumor-swollen opinion. Mine happens to have biblical justification.


Second, if you knew anything, which you obviously don't, you'd know that no Christian is laboring under the delusion that they're perfect. That's why this is called a fallen creation, because it isn't perfect. The only thing perfect was the life death and resurrection of our Lord and Savior. He gives us justification, apart from that we have none and neither does anyone else.

You're right about one thing in a roundabout way, which is that this is all very pearls before swine. In the context of a bunch of googly eyed mouth breathers saying God doesn't exist, where Satans special little helpers file in to preach their faith, not much is going to come out of this which is positive. So, I'll just let the topic die. Enjoy your homo-comedy.

"God loves everyone, first of all. "

Except the Gays.

And the Sinners.

And the Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, etc.

And people who stub toes and eat potato chips.



You yourself have contradicted yourself in this thread, sir.

@shinyblurry for a Christian and a human being, you sure have a lot of hatred in you.

Not a single person has been killed in the name of Atheism. So fuck right off, you wretched scum.>> ^shinyblurry:
I'm sorry but atheists are terrible people. Immoral, selfish and apathetic to a T. Violent and angry too. Atheists are usually the worst kind of people you could imagine.

>> ^shinyblurry:

Second, I have as much right to say what I did as you did what you said to me. [...]Second, if you knew anything, which you obviously don't, you'd know that no Christian is laboring under the delusion that they're perfect.

That is why you're a hypocrite. Do not come in here with your sinful life and criticize the rest of us for not being perfect; your weak interpretations of sin and perfection, no less.

>> ^shinyblurry:

What Dan Savage does isn't sex. It's consensual sodomy. Thats part of what evil does is redefine the meanings of things. The love that two gay men have for eachother is not beautiful, it is repulsive. God does not approve of their union, and they should never be married. What they love is sin, and sin is not beautiful. It is an abomination before the Lord..


did god create monkeys? did god create frogs? can these animals sin?
http://videosift.com/video/Monkey-Using-Frog-as-Sex-Toy

>> ^mkknyr:

>> ^shinyblurry:
What Dan Savage does isn't sex. It's consensual sodomy. Thats part of what evil does is redefine the meanings of things. The love that two gay men have for eachother is not beautiful, it is repulsive. God does not approve of their union, and they should never be married. What they love is sin, and sin is not beautiful. It is an abomination before the Lord..

did god create monkeys? did god create frogs? can these animals sin?
http://videosift.com/video/Monkey-Using-Frog-as-Sex-Toy


Oh don't be silly, Animals don't have souls.

I mean, it's not like god created them and asked noah to save two of every animal on a boat the size of texas so he could let them pass through the pearly gates. That would just be stupid.