Zero Punctuation: Fallout: New Vegas

FlowersInHisHairsays...

Actually, while the sodium and caffeine in cola and similar beverages may have a (very, very) slight diurectic effect, you still retain more water from the beverage than the caffeine takes from your system. The same is true even of beer, though it's even more difficult to get people to believe that.

WKBsays...

>> ^FlowersInHisHair:

Actually, while the sodium and caffeine in cola and similar beverages may have a (very, very) slight diurectic effect, you still retain more water from the beverage than the caffeine takes from your system. The same is true even of beer, though it's even more difficult to get people to believe that.


This.

Ages ago I just knew it had to be wrong when my Mom told me this. I was gleeful when I was able to show her proof I was right all along.

residuesays...

Have you ever had a Sierra mist? I need about a gallon water after one of those things. I think it's even caffeine free

>> ^FlowersInHisHair:

Actually, while the sodium and caffeine in cola and similar beverages may have a (very, very) slight diurectic effect, you still retain more water from the beverage than the caffeine takes from your system. The same is true even of beer, though it's even more difficult to get people to believe that.

shagen454says...

Seems like he actually enjoyed this one... This game is pretty awesome. When you get to the town with the dino and a guy helps you find out who shot you and offers up a quest to get rid of some ghouls. TAKE THAT QUEST. One of the best quests in the Fallout series and seemed very underplayed in the dialog - "Oh you don't have to do this, since... but you could take this if you wanted." Seemed very passable. Only problem I've had in the 30 hours I've played so far are a couple of the vaults... I think it was Vault 11 and Vault 34. Both of them suck but one was extremely terribly laid out and buggy. Also, the vault in New Vegas is also too much of a pain in the arse to navigate... so terrible that I took a quest tried to find my way out for 20 minutes and then reloaded my last save... outside that vault and never went back in.

I had no qualms with Fallout 3, which surprised me having been a Fallout fanboy as a teenager... and not really wanting Bethesda to touch the franchise. I loved Fallout 3 but FONV seems to be a more proper Fallout game than 3. Lot's of writing & dialogue with better quality, the factions and return to Fallout's home - the beloved West

Fantomassays...

>> ^FlowersInHisHair:

Actually, while the sodium and caffeine in cola and similar beverages may have a (very, very) slight diurectic effect, you still retain more water from the beverage than the caffeine takes from your system. The same is true even of beer, though it's even more difficult to get people to believe that.


Sodium is not a diuretic, quite the opposite, it makes your body retain water. The added sodium in your bloodstream is counteracted by water flowing into it from your cells, your cells are then water deficient and send messages to your brain: "Drink Water!".

budzossays...

"soda and beer actually make you more thirsty!" is one of those things I first heard in third grade and never really believed. Sometimes a little more salt doesn't hurt. Especially if you've been sweating.

Xaielaosays...

>> ^furrycloud:

^ I agree completely. After playing every game in the Fallout series so far, FONV feels way closer to an actual Fallout game than FO3 did. FO3 felt more like Oblivion with guns.


That's because Fallout 3 'was' Oblivion with guns!

F:NV is a fantastic game (bugs aside) and I agree it has a serious Fallout 2 vibe going on.

Tymbrwulfsays...

>> ^budzos:

Thirstier than not drinking anything? No. That's sea water.


That's because it's a hypertonic/hyperosmotic solution (crazy high concentration of salt[solute] compared to its solution). Any hyperosmotic solution will technically have a dehydration effect because it will bring the fluid out of your intracellular space towards extracellular space to counteract the increased solute concentration.

ForgedRealitysays...

Drink lots of cola. Your pee will be yellow. This means you are dehydrated. Now drink lots of water. Your pee will be much clearer. This is good. You are becoming hydrated, and not killing your kidneys. Good job, chap!

FlowersInHisHairsays...

>> ^PalmliX:

Ummmmm, what about the ridiculous amount of sugar in cola? Around 40 grams per can, wouldn't that contribute to making you thirstier in the long run?

Sugar makes you thirsty? No. Sugar rots your teeth and makes you fat. And still, there is more water in cola than there is sugar...

FlowersInHisHairsays...

>> ^Fantomas:

>> ^FlowersInHisHair:
Actually, while the sodium and caffeine in cola and similar beverages may have a (very, very) slight diurectic effect, you still retain more water from the beverage than the caffeine takes from your system. The same is true even of beer, though it's even more difficult to get people to believe that.

Sodium is not a diuretic, quite the opposite, it makes your body retain water. The added sodium in your bloodstream is counteracted by water flowing into it from your cells, your cells are then water deficient and send messages to your brain: "Drink Water!".


Ok ok, not diuretic. But you still take in more water than the sodium makes you lose. The sodium draws water form your cells, I'll grant you - but you've just had a drink, so as long as you've taken in more water than the sodium leeches from your cells you're fine.

budzossays...

>> ^ForgedReality:

Drink lots of cola. Your pee will be yellow. This means you are dehydrated. Now drink lots of water. Your pee will be much clearer. This is good. You are becoming hydrated, and not killing your kidneys. Good job, chap!


My problem is with people saying that drinking soda/beer/coffee will *always* make you thirstier. This is the logic of a ten year-old. If you haven't had anything to drink for hours, and especially if you've been sweating, any beer pop or coffee is going to have a net hydrating (not a net dehydrating) effect. It's not like you mix all the sugar/salt in the beverage directly into the cells of all your tissue. A lot of that shit gets filtered out or absorbed where it's needed.

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