Samantha Bee - Is There Any Hope For The Left?

"How the fuck do you think I feel?'

YouTube: We sent Allana Harkin and Michael Rubens to Netroots to find hope for 2018 and/or lean in to our misery. Produced by Elizabeth Skadden.
newtboysays...

Wait...what? So the DNC is now saying they are just black people telling white men what to do? ...and even the black people are sick of it? That sounds like a recipe for failure if I ever heard one.

newtboysays...

That's a good start, but it's far from a full solution.
Remember, it was the DNC itself that cheated Sanders out of a fair shot.
It's hard to have hope things will change with the same mindset (and many of the same people) in charge.

Mordhaussaid:

Quit picking Hillary to be your nominee. Instant hope.

Mordhaussays...

Yeah, the DNC is corrupt, but they would immediately have a better shot at getting voters if they distanced themselves from Hillary.

newtboysaid:

That's a good start, but it's far from a full solution.
Remember, it was the DNC itself that cheated Sanders out of a fair shot.
It's hard to have hope things will change with the same mindset (and many of the same people) in charge.

00Scud00says...

I think it's safe to say that in 2020 the Democratic party will not be running her up the flagpole again. The last time they did that half the party saluted and the other half, kinda saluted, but it's not kind of salute one would find encouraging.

Mordhaussaid:

Yeah, the DNC is corrupt, but they would immediately have a better shot at getting voters if they distanced themselves from Hillary.

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ChaosEnginesays...

Oh, come on. The DNC didn't "cheat Sanders out of a fair shot". As much as I would have liked to see him win, he never really had a chance.

The simple fact is that Hillary had more support.

newtboysaid:

That's a good start, but it's far from a full solution.
Remember, it was the DNC itself that cheated Sanders out of a fair shot.
It's hard to have hope things will change with the same mindset (and many of the same people) in charge.

newtboysays...

That's why I didn't say "cheated him out of a win".
While I think he could have won the primary given a fair shot, there's no way to be sure...what we are sure of is the DNC broke it's own rules to ensure he didn't get that fair shot.
He was absolutely cheated out of his fair shot.

And actually, I think you're wrong about the numbers too. Even with all the underhandedness (after the fact rule changes, targeted voter purging, etc) Sanders still came really close, and there's little question that he would have done better against Trump. He wouldn't have energized Trump's base 1/4 as much as her nomination did.
Clinton may have had more ardent supporters where it mattered for the primary, in the DNC and primary voting booths, but she also had FAR more ardent detractors in the general public that translated into votes for Trump, and a criminal investigation it was certain would reemerge at the last minute....things they completely ignored, which is why she (and we all) lost.

ChaosEnginesaid:

Oh, come on. The DNC didn't "cheat Sanders out of a fair shot". As much as I would have liked to see him win, he never really had a chance.

The simple fact is that Hillary had more support.

Stormsingersays...

The DNC felt that a Trump victory was a lesser threat to their owners than a Sanders victory would have been. Problem solved.

newtboysaid:

That's why I didn't say "cheated him out of a win".
While I think he could have won the primary given a fair shot, there's no way to be sure...what we are sure of is the DNC broke it's own rules to ensure he didn't get that fair shot.
He was absolutely cheated out of his fair shot.

And actually, I think you're wrong about the numbers too. Even with all the underhandedness (after the fact rule changes, targeted voter purging, etc) Sanders still came really close, and there's little question that he would have done better against Trump. He wouldn't have energized Trump's base 1/4 as much as her nomination did.
Clinton may have had more ardent supporters where it mattered for the primary, in the DNC and primary voting booths, but she also had FAR more ardent detractors in the general public that translated into votes for Trump, and a criminal investigation it was certain would reemerge at the last minute....things they completely ignored, which is why she (and we all) lost.

bobknight33says...

The DNC felt that Hillary was a land slide victory against Trump.
Heck all media pundits and polls echoed this bias.

The DNC just had to railroad Bernie out of the race.
Sanders truly did not have a chance to win the primary.

Stormsingersaid:

The DNC felt that a Trump victory was a lesser threat to their owners than a Sanders victory would have been. Problem solved.

newtboysays...

Not all pundits and polls. I saw many that echoed my theories (but it's true, many/most didn't).

Not sure what you mean with Sanders. He never had a chance at all, or was screwed out of his chance? I agree with the latter.

bobknight33said:

The DNC felt that Hillary was a land slide victory against Trump.
Heck all media pundits and polls echoed this bias.

The DNC just had to railroad Bernie out of the race.
Sanders truly did not have a chance to win the primary.

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