Thank you, @eric3579, for the follow up video.

Tags for this video have been changed from 'youtube confession, bullying, high school' to 'youtube confession, bullying, high school, sia, breathe me' - edited by enoch

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http://johnshore.com/2011/12/03/a-gay-boy-cries-out-tell-me-christian-that-you-hear-him/

"Evangelical, fundamentalist Christians—by which I mean, specifically, Christians who believe that being gay is a moral abomination, an appalling affront to God—talk to me, please, about this kid.

Tell me that your belief system didn’t help put the hot tears on this kid’s cheeks. Tell me that the bullies who torment this kid aren’t in any way encouraged or empowered by your tacit approval of their actions. Tell me that the shame this kid feels about himself has nothing to do with the shame that you believe all gay people should feel for themselves.

Tell me that you can’t comprehend the connection between your conviction that God finds homosexuals repulsive, and the fact that this kid finds himself so repulsive that he habitually cuts his own flesh.

Tell me, please, how you love this kid. Tell me how you understand his pain. Tell me how when he cries, you cry.

Tell me how you want to do everything in your power to make sure that no one, ever again, feels free to in any way victimize a young gay person.

A Christian myself, I am pleading with you to be honest with me about this.

Tell me, please, how none of this kid’s anguish has anything to do with you.

I’m listening. I really am.

We all are."

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Unfortunately we only have one fundamentalist Christian martyr representative willing to take the onslaught of our rage. Calling @shinyblurry - you got some 'splaining to do. >> ^bareboards2:

http://johnshore.com/2011/12/03/a-gay-boy-cries-out-te
ll-me-christian-that-you-hear-him/
"Evangelical, fundamentalist Christians—by which I mean, specifically, Christians who believe that being gay is a moral abomination, an appalling affront to God—talk to me, please, about this kid.
Tell me that your belief system didn’t help put the hot tears on this kid’s cheeks. Tell me that the bullies who torment this kid aren’t in any way encouraged or empowered by your tacit approval of their actions. Tell me that the shame this kid feels about himself has nothing to do with the shame that you believe all gay people should feel for themselves.
Tell me that you can’t comprehend the connection between your conviction that God finds homosexuals repulsive, and the fact that this kid finds himself so repulsive that he habitually cuts his own flesh.
Tell me, please, how you love this kid. Tell me how you understand his pain. Tell me how when he cries, you cry.
Tell me how you want to do everything in your power to make sure that no one, ever again, feels free to in any way victimize a young gay person.
A Christian myself, I am pleading with you to be honest with me about this.
Tell me, please, how none of this kid’s anguish has anything to do with you.
I’m listening. I really am.
We all are."

i've got something in my eye. actually more than one. I couldn't resist going to the original video on youtube and leaving a support comment. poor kid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwXdoKsaB9k Seems like he's begun to pull himself out of the hole. That or he's a drama queen. Or perhaps he wishes he'd never made the video. Whatever, the way he's chewing that gum makes me want to poke his eyeball with a sharp stick!

Well, first of all I will say that my heart goes out to this kid. I obviously don't approve of anyone being bullied for any reason. I remember what school was like, and how cruel kids can be. The fact that he was cutting in second grade is pretty messed up, and I think it shows how messed up this culture is, that a second grader would even find out about something like that so young. I feel bad for him, but I don't really see the justification for laying this on the shoulders of Christians. In my experience I have heard bigotry against homosexuality come from the lips of the secular man far more often than the Christians.

My perspective on homosexuality is this: it's a sin. Does that mean that a homosexual is to be held in contempt? Of course not. All people are made in the image of God.

James 3:9-13

With the tongue we praise our Lord and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in God's likeness. Out of the same mouth come praise and cursing. My brothers, this should not be. Can both fresh water and salt water flow from the same spring? My brothers, can a fig tree bear olives, or a grapevine bear figs? Neither can a salt spring produce fresh water.

The command of the Lord is to approach it with gentleness and love. Christians don't always do that, and to my shame I haven't always done that, but that is the way it is supposed to be handled.

We have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, so for one sinner to point out another one is hypocripsy. We all have our special challenges, and my sin isn't any better than his sin.

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>> ^eric3579:

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Upvote, not because I agree with you that it's a sin - but for the nuanced substance of your reply. You must represent the left wing of your fundamentalist church. I don't think your equivalence of sin stance is a very common outlook though. >> ^shinyblurry:

Well, first of all I will say that my heart goes out to this kid. I obviously don't approve of anyone being bullied for any reason. I remember what school was like, and how cruel kids can be. The fact that he was cutting in second grade is pretty messed up, and I think it shows how messed up this culture is, that a second grader would even find out about something like that so young. I feel bad for him, but I don't really see the justification for laying this on the shoulders of Christians. In my experience I have heard bigotry against homosexuality come from the lips of the secular man far more often than the Christians.
My perspective on homosexuality is this: it's a sin. Does that mean that a homosexual is to be held in contempt? Of course not. All people are made in the image of God.
James 3:9-13
With the tongue we praise our Lord and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in God's likeness. Out of the same mouth come praise and cursing. My brothers, this should not be. Can both fresh water and salt water flow from the same spring? My brothers, can a fig tree bear olives, or a grapevine bear figs? Neither can a salt spring produce fresh water.
The command of the Lord is to approach it with gentleness and love. Christians don't always do that, and to my shame I haven't always done that, but that is the way it is supposed to be handled.
We have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, so for one sinner to point out another one is hypocripsy. We all have our special challenges, and my sin isn't any better than his sin.

>> ^dag:

Upvote, not because I agree with you that it's a sin - but for the nuanced substance of your reply. You must represent the left wing of your fundamentalist church. I don't think your equivalence of sin stance is a very common outlook though.

What nuance? He is parroting the tired old line of "love the sinner, hate the sin". I said it as a joke the other day, but he actually believes it. Meanwhile, his attitude contributes to a society that encourages people to make kids like this feel like they are "broken".

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Here's the nuance as I see it: He's saying we're all equally sinners so gay people shouldn't be singled out. I realise believing that homosexuality is a sin is misguided from the start but at least it's a step away from his fire and brimstone homophobe bretheren. I do have a problem with the whole concept of sin, but that's another discussion.>> ^ChaosEngine:

>> ^dag:
Upvote, not because I agree with you that it's a sin - but for the nuanced substance of your reply. You must represent the left wing of your fundamentalist church. I don't think your equivalence of sin stance is a very common outlook though.
What nuance? He is parroting the tired old line of "love the sinner, hate the sin". I said it as a joke the other day, but he actually believes it. Meanwhile, his attitude contributes to a society that encourages people to make kids like this feel like they are "broken".

See I'll take science any day. Clueless fundamentalist believe "Neither can a salt spring produce fresh water."

Guess what guy, maybe in your bronze age view of the world this is true (as God has so commanded) but in my modern >15th century world, you can get fresh water from a salt water spring.

Uh oh. Is the Bible wrong?