Its OK to kill non american's they are worth less.

the police are just doing there job and that is maintaining the status quo as defined by whoever has the most money and power.

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It is amazing looking at those cops faces. Funny, if that was some kid with dredlocks the cops would have been shoving him with a baton.

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this is what happens when you put people in uniform.

The cops need to get on the other side of things. They're getting screwed by the system too.

But... these cops aren't doing anything. I'm not sure why he's yelling at cops that are just standing around.

>> ^Duckman33:

But... these cops aren't doing anything. I'm not sure why he's yelling at cops that are just standing around.


Yes at this moment that the video was shot they weren't doing anything wrong, you are correct. Now could there have been something that got this guy angry to begin with? It's possible we've seen a lot of that on this sift.

Until I see the video showing what happened prior to this to start him yelling at them, I stand by my comment. If nothing happened, then he should find cops that are actively abusing folks and yell at them some.

>> ^Yogi:

>> ^Duckman33:
But... these cops aren't doing anything. I'm not sure why he's yelling at cops that are just standing around.

Yes at this moment that the video was shot they weren't doing anything wrong, you are correct. Now could there have been something that got this guy angry to begin with? It's possible we've seen a lot of that on this sift.

>> ^Duckman33:

Until I see the video showing what happened prior to this to start him yelling at them, I stand by my comment. If nothing happened, then he should find cops that are actively abusing folks and yell at them some.


Wow, just because you are completely ignorant of the news, you go full ostrich.

Get a clue. Watch some news or videos. This footage was shot during the march to Times Square on Oct 15th. If you would like footage of NYPD cops man-handling peaceful protest during the last month, those videos are available also.

First, you get a fucking clue. I know what's going on in the news and have seen several beating tapes. My point is THESE COPS are doing nothing wrong. So why take it out on THEM?! find some that ARE doing something wrong and yell at THEM! Is that such a hard concept to fathom?

>> ^joedirt:

>> ^Duckman33:
Until I see the video showing what happened prior to this to start him yelling at them, I stand by my comment. If nothing happened, then he should find cops that are actively abusing folks and yell at them some.

Wow, just because you are completely ignorant of the news, you go full ostrich.
Get a clue. Watch some news or videos. This footage was shot during the march to Times Square on Oct 15th. If you would like footage of NYPD cops man-handling peaceful protest during the last month, those videos are available also.

did you see all the cops filming him too?

wow this guy is right on, thanks to him and his service


clear consistent, and best of all, louder than a freakin bullhorn! my oh my

its not at these cops, its because that was the moment, that was the situation. it happened. he had to say what he had to say, and he did. Obviously couldnt have planned it, because the spontaneous nature was part of the strength

Man, you wanna kill people? Go to Iraq... plenty of innocent people to kill!

>> ^Drachen_Jager:

The cops need to get on the other side of things. They're getting screwed by the system too.
F*ck cops. They are not your friend. Interesting word choice, btw.

>> ^shagen454:

Man, you wanna kill people? Go to Iraq... plenty of innocent people to kill!


Yep, that's one problem with democratic movements, if you side with a particular person on an issue, they may have a viewpoint on another issue that is really horrendous. Having said that, someone needs to be saying this to the cops, you could really feel all the energy the crowd got from him, and his point is valid.

Also, the fact that a variety of people are allowed to express their opinion is perhaps the biggest strength of this movement.

I'm going to be sick now. That article about the police fabricating drug charges is vile.>> ^Fletch:

>> ^Drachen_Jager:
The cops need to get on the other side of things. They're getting screwed by the system too.
F ck cops. They are not your friend. Interesting word choice, btw.

Vietnam re-visited. (Former soldiers coming home & "can't believe what they're seeing")

Also go see his interview on Countdown from tonight: http://videosift.com/video/Sgt-Shamar-Thomas-on-Countdown-10-17-2011

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The clipping of his voice made me think of this.

>> ^ChaosEngine:

The clipping of his voice made me think of this.


All I could think of was Samuel-mother-fuckin-Jackson

Yeah, and Marines are no different... Throwing puppies off cliffs, raping...makes you sick huh?

>> ^Fletch:

>> ^Drachen_Jager:
The cops need to get on the other side of things. They're getting screwed by the system too.
F ck cops. They are not your friend. Interesting word choice, btw.

>> ^Duckman33:

First, you get a fucking clue. I know what's going on in the news and have seen several beating tapes. My point is THESE COPS are doing nothing wrong. So why take it out on THEM?! find some that ARE doing something wrong and yell at THEM!


Here is a tip for you. If you watch this video you'll see the Times Square BoA neon in the background. This video was shot shortly after many of the other Times Sq video where these same riot gear cops are beating on protesters. You might even see the video where they remove barricades and run horses into a wall of people who have nowhere to move to.

I think anyone walking around on Oct15 near Times Sq would have seen these cops being abusive to peaceful protesters, and hence what motivated this marine to speak out to the cops asking them WTF are they doing.

It was? And where's your source for this information?

>> ^joedirt:

>> ^Duckman33:
First, you get a fucking clue. I know what's going on in the news and have seen several beating tapes. My point is THESE COPS are doing nothing wrong. So why take it out on THEM?! find some that ARE doing something wrong and yell at THEM!

Here is a tip for you. If you watch this video you'll see the Times Square BoA neon in the background. This video was shot shortly after many of the other Times Sq video where these same riot gear cops are beating on protesters. You might even see the video where they remove barricades and run horses into a wall of people who have nowhere to move to.
I think anyone walking around on Oct15 near Times Sq would have seen these cops being abusive to peaceful protesters, and hence what motivated this marine to speak out to the cops asking them WTF are they doing.

@Duckman33

He was there to make a point and keep the cops in line. He did that.

STFU. please and thank you. ; ]

>> ^GenjiKilpatrick:

@Duckman33
He was there to make a point and keep the cops in line. He did that.
STFU. please and thank you. ; ]


Um, well he's making a point to the wrong people. Find cops that are beating people and yell at them. Yelling at cops doing nothing proves nothing. I find it hilarious you folks will get all up in arms when cops mistreat folks that are doing nothing, but it's OK to scream and yell at cops doing absolutely nothing. I suppose all NYPD are guilty by association? Double standards much? I don't like the fact that Marines killed innocent people in Iraq. Should I find this guy and start yelling at him and any other Marine I see? LOL

Oh, and science forbid I should want some information on what actually occurred just before this was shot. Much better to assume in ignorance they had just got done beating people.

Akshully I think he was complaining about the fact that the cops were "geared out." That is, they looked as though they were preparing for war, or a violent encounter. As Sgt. Thomas explained on the KO clip, they had been in similar situations in Iraq, with people even going so far as throwing stones at them. They never took an aggressive posture towards those people. They never drew weapons. The cops seem to have no sense of restraint, nor ability to recognize the difference between dangerous and non-dangerous situations.

{edit] In fairness to the cops, if that dude was yelling at me like that, I'd view that as a dangerous situation. "Pepper spray this."

>> ^Duckman33:

>> ^GenjiKilpatrick:
@Duckman33
He was there to make a point and keep the cops in line. He did that.
STFU. please and thank you. ; ]

Um, well he's making a point to the wrong people. Find cops that are beating people and yell at them. Yelling at cops doing nothing proves nothing. I find it hilarious you folks will get all up in arms when cops mistreat folks that are doing nothing, but it's OK to scream and yell at cops doing absolutely nothing. I suppose all NYPD are guilty by association? Double standards much? I don't like the fact that Marines killed innocent people in Iraq. Should I find this guy and start yelling at him and any other Marine I see? LOL
Oh, and science forbid I should want some information on what actually occurred just before this was shot. Much better to assume in ignorance they had just got done beating people.

>> ^Lawdeedaw:

Yeah, and Marines are no different... Throwing puppies off cliffs, raping...makes you sick huh?
>> ^Fletch:
>> ^Drachen_Jager:
The cops need to get on the other side of things. They're getting screwed by the system too.
F ck cops. They are not your friend. Interesting word choice, btw.



Obviously you forgot to check the box. Bryce took you at face value.

Its OK to kill non american's they are worth less.

ಠ_ಠ REALLY?

>> ^westy:

Its OK to kill non american's they are worth less.
the police are just doing there job and that is maintaining the status quo as defined by whoever has the most money and power.

Yes, all relevant footage and full context must exist on one five minute video, or else nothing is valid!

Now, I must eat some donuts before spreading more wisdom on the internet.

Is he saying that no cops should have guns? yea that makes sense

For videos like this, context is important. All I see is some guy yelling at police officers trying to do their job. I haven't seen these officers hurt anyone, pull a gun, force anyone around etc. So yes, context is important. If the officers weren't doing anything before the marine showed up, then the marine is a jerk. If they were doing something, then he's justified.

I'm getting sort of sick of the asinine opinion around here that all police are inherently bad people

>> ^kymbos:

Yes, all relevant footage and full context must exist on one five minute video, or else nothing is valid!
Now, I must eat some donuts before spreading more wisdom on the internet.

Yes, the context is important. Yes, it is possible (even likely I hope) that the policemen seen in the video were doing nothing wrong. But he was asked near the end of the clip what got him all riled up, and he stated that he was pissed off to come home and witness people that weren't doing anything get yanked out of crowds and whacked with clubs / tazed / pepper sprayed etc. We've seen that happen in other clips as well, so I believe him when he says he saw it in person -- and I think that is sufficient justification for getting upset and loudly exercising one's right to free speech.

Even if the policemen that he was yelling at had done nothing wrong themselves, I am glad that he put some in-person heat on them. If they are good cops, they needn't take any offense to his tirade, but they should be disappointed with the actions of their fellow officers that so upset this man.

Watching this made me wish I'd been there so I could shake that man's hand, clap him on the back, and call him brother.

Yep Payback, was just checkin the thread out and noticed that (Your quote never appeared in my email, how strange...)

Sorry @brycewi19, I did mean it to be sarcastic before about the Marines. I got's much love for them, even though I have much hate for the fuck ups, I don't judge the good ones on that.

>> ^Payback:

>> ^Lawdeedaw:
Yeah, and Marines are no different... Throwing puppies off cliffs, raping...makes you sick huh?
>> ^Fletch:
>> ^Drachen_Jager:
The cops need to get on the other side of things. They're getting screwed by the system too.
F ck cops. They are not your friend. Interesting word choice, btw.


Obviously you forgot to check the box. Bryce took you at face value.

@MilkmanDan

Urm, he never said he was actually there when people were beaten. He did say, which heavily implies, that he "saw" them beaten, but then again, I "saw a Marine screaming at the cops while at Occupy Wallstreet. (That implied I was at Occupy Wallstreet but of course I was not--he was at Occupy Wallstreet when I saw him. And I did see him, from my computer.)

I bring this up because people, especially in the heat of a Kill/Battle mindset, especially those that fought and most likely killed people (Some who are just defending their own nation and beliefs,) tend to say things without thought--like, "Hrm, I wonder if people will misunderstand what I say."

One thing that leads me to the conclusion that he mispoke, that he wasn't physically there when it happened, that he only took he/said she/said context, was that apparently, as he witnessed innocent people being beaten near to death, unlawfully if his words are true, he just shut his mouth like some coward and didn't lift a finger to help. Big stuff for a man now talking so much shit huh? Talking about how the cops are scared...

So either way, he is a lair or a coward--you take your pick Milkmandan...

Yes, the context is important. Yes, it is possible (even likely I hope) that the policemen seen in the video were doing nothing wrong. But he was asked near the end of the clip what got him all riled up, and he stated that he was pissed off to come home and witness people that weren't doing anything get yanked out of crowds and whacked with clubs / tazed / pepper sprayed etc. We've seen that happen in other clips as well, so I believe him when he says he saw it in person -- and I think that is sufficient justification for getting upset and loudly exercising one's right to free speech.

Even if the policemen that he was yelling at had done nothing wrong themselves, I am glad that he put some in-person heat on them. If they are good cops, they needn't take any offense to his tirade, but they should be disappointed with the actions of their fellow officers that so upset this man.

Watching this made me wish I'd been there so I could shake that man's hand, clap him on the back, and call him brother.