Gecko Saves His Friend From Snake

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MilkmanDansays...

>> ^ForgedReality:

Anybody know what kind of geckos they are? I was thinking tokays, but the tail looks different. Definitely related at least. And that snake, is it some kind of green viper?


The people are speaking Thai, and Thai geckos are tokay/toukay, so I bet that is correct. Their tail does look a bit different -- most of the geckos here have a tail that gets very wide right past where it connects to the body, sort of cardioid in shape, or like an elongated second head.

As for the snake, looks like a tree viper of some kind to me, based on near the end where it extends and you can get a clear silhouette of the head. There are lots of red-throated tree vipers in my area in Thailand, but they have a more brownish green color with a geometric pattern on their backs (plus the red area around the throat) whereas this one looked pretty solidly and smoothly green. Dunno.

I'll have my wife watch and see if the people in the recording say anything definitive.


***edit:
She said they are definitely toukay, which as far as I know is just gecko in Thai. She said the snake is called a "ngoo keyow" in Thai, which just translates as "green snake", so not particularly helpful. Here is a web page with some likely suspects: http://www.siam-info.de/english/snakes_crotalidae.html

Green tree viper is probably correct, but that applies to quite a few distinct species. All are poisonous but some only mildly so for humans. Not sure if the geckos/toukay would be resistant though.

Confuciussays...

Lol...kinda was but still cool.

Im no poison/snake/giant gecko expert here but ifn that is a long-oh-so-long POISONOUS viper arent both geckos dead? Unless geckos have some kind of immunity, or its some variety on non-poisonous.....In which case shouldnt this be under some sort of romantic gesture channel?

>> ^sillma:

that was really, really, REALLY slow-paced. I slept for an hour after starting the clip and still woke up in time for the first gecko attack.

dannym3141says...

>> ^Confucius:

Lol...kinda was but still cool.
Im no poison/snake/giant gecko expert here but ifn that is a long-oh-so-long POISONOUS viper arent both geckos dead? Unless geckos have some kind of immunity, or its some variety on non-poisonous.....In which case shouldnt this be under some sort of romantic gesture channel?
>> ^sillma:
that was really, really, REALLY slow-paced. I slept for an hour after starting the clip and still woke up in time for the first gecko attack.



I agree, but i was confused by the snake because it looked like it was trying to constrict. In which case, it wouldn't be poisonous? I'm no expert, someone help, i want to know if this was epic success or not!

grintersays...

>> ^dannym3141:

>> ^Confucius:
Lol...kinda was but still cool.
Im no poison/snake/giant gecko expert here but ifn that is a long-oh-so-long POISONOUS viper arent both geckos dead? Unless geckos have some kind of immunity, or its some variety on non-poisonous.....In which case shouldnt this be under some sort of romantic gesture channel?
>> ^sillma:
that was really, really, REALLY slow-paced. I slept for an hour after starting the clip and still woke up in time for the first gecko attack.


I agree, but i was confused by the snake because it looked like it was trying to constrict. In which case, it wouldn't be poisonous? I'm no expert, someone help, i want to know if this was epic success or not!


The fact that the snake is holding the gecko in it's coils does not mean it's a constrictor. Most snakes, both venomous and nonvenomous, that consume large prey do this. It keeps the prey from escaping and is necessary so that the snake can position the prey in order to ingest it. Ingesting a prey item bigger than your head is a tricky process, especially if you don't have any hands, and once the process has begun, the snake would become extremely vulnerable.

Many lizards show some resistance to snake venoms. Several skink species, for instance, are highly resistant to elapid (cobras, kraits, adders) venom. Some geckos too show a degree of resistance.

I could be wrong about the following, but the snake in the video does not look like a pit viper to me. The neck is thin, the head shape isn't quite right, and it doesn't appear to strike like a viper. I think it is more likely to be a colubrid, perhaps a golden tree snake (Chrysopelea ornata). If so, that would mean that the snake is rear fanged, the snake would really have to bite down to inject it's relatively weak venom, and the attacking gecko is far less likely to be envenomed during a strike.

It is also probably relevant to point out that the gecko is most likely not trying to 'save his friend', but is instead reacting aggressively to the presence of a predator because of the direct benefits the gecko will receive from his actions (the harassed snake, an ambush predator who has lost the element of surprise, will leave and forage elsewhere).

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