Because a running tackle on a 15 year old girl is so much more effective than shouting "Stop!! Police!!"

It's about time that cops started getting punished to the fullest extent of the law. No more Blue Code of Silence, no more complicit judges, and no more bullshit.

The Executive Branch is supposed to be separate from the Judicial Branch.

At 2:25 is that an abrasion to her head? Looks like a red patch if that's damage caused by the arresting officer his ass should be fucking grass.

This is un-fucking-believable.

man look at her "flee". So quick and agile. Like a deer, or a black person with that "quick-twitch" muscle.

"Open and shut case, Johnson. Let's sprinkle some crack on her and get out of here."

whoa...

brutal assault

halt, you're under arrest for changing from a chubby lady to a skinny asian girl, then back again, also for unexpected teleportation without license

Cop was suspended... at least. yay

>> ^ravioli:

Cop was suspended... at least. yay


It's a very small step... but probably didn't even lose any pay. Is there another profession on the PLANET where you wouldn't immediately be fire let alone have the police called and be arrested for if you did this?... i mean... ok Professional Wrestler... Professional Hockey Player... but what about the other 99.9% of us... NO WAY... we're already in jail if thats us.... Oh yeah... thats right... and f'n cop!

>> ^Januari:

>> ^ravioli:
Cop was suspended... at least. yay

It's a very small step... but probably didn't even lose any pay. Is there another profession on the PLANET where you wouldn't immediately be fire let alone have the police called and be arrested for if you did this?... i mean... ok Professional Wrestler... Professional Hockey Player... but what about the other 99.9% of us... NO WAY... we're already in jail if thats us.... Oh yeah... thats right... and f'n cop!


Suspended = pay loss. So I am not sure how you question whether it means no pay loss? Now, if you meant salary reduction, that's different.

And other professions? Hundreds, just for your info. Let's go over just a few shall we? Tow Truck driver, athletes of all kinds, movie stars, Broadway actors, music stars, repo-men, politicians, Soldiers, Marines, Air Men, Sea Men, farm hands, truck drivers, fishermen, etc.

Additionally, jobs like Walmart, Sears, Target, Sheets, etc. don't really fire you because you can just quit, and by next week you can have another job at any other low paying job (For example, you get fired from Walmart, just go to work for McDonald's.)

>> ^NordlichReiter:

It's about time that cops started getting punished to the fullest extent of the law. No more Blue Code of Silence, no more complicit judges, and no more bullshit.
The Executive Branch is supposed to be separate from the Judicial Branch.
At 2:25 is that an abrasion to her head? Looks like a red patch if that's damage caused by the arresting officer his ass should be fucking grass.
This is un-fucking-believable.


No, it's about time people start to realize that the Code of Silence has been deteriorating for YEARS. But the social machine never adapts fast, so people were oblivious based on past prejudices. No offense Nord, but even if cops changed, you wouldn't notice for a long while...

Nowadays, with cameras everywhere, cops can't afford to have each other's backs (Which is a good thing.) You lie on a report, or you lie for someone else, and you cannot be trusted in court, so you get suspended or fired. In excessive force like this--and when you tell the truth--usually you just get suspended.

Let's review some things that hold officers more accountable. GPS in their cars. It's to make sure they actually work. Dash cameras? They watch the officers 24/7 when they pull over criminals. Someone once said that those dash cameras were to protect the officer? Really? What a douche he was... Scrutiny of reports, outside boards for review of cases relating to misconduct, etc...

And these, GPS, dash cameras, etc., have been around for years. Yet nobody has cared to applaud them... In most cases, these safeguards are not mandated by anything besides a department...

What the fuck is that guy's problem? Great. Another copper desperately looking for excuses to apply force where none is necessary.

Who cares, the bitch had it coming. She had already struck the other woman, she is now a danger to herself and others. I have seen far worse examples of police brutality, and this hardly justifies this kind of anger. No one can dispute that Cops can be excessive, but come on. Judging by the Scenario, the girl that she was fighting looked to be a Loss Prevention Agent, the girl who got "booshed" prolly stole some shit first. Can you imagine how terrible crime would be if Cops didn't flex their muscles every now and then? Citizens want to commit crimes and still want all their rights respected. Stupid.

Don't start no shit, wont be no shit.

Only in America.

>> ^Mindfuck:

Only in America.


Yeah, in many other countries they would have shot her.

>> ^sme4r:

Who cares, the bitch had it coming. She had already struck the other woman, she is now a danger to herself and others. I have seen far worse examples of police brutality, and this hardly justifies this kind of anger. No one can dispute that Cops can be excessive, but come on. Judging by the Scenario, the girl that she was fighting looked to be a Loss Prevention Agent, the girl who got "booshed" prolly stole some shit first. Can you imagine how terrible crime would be if Cops didn't flex their muscles every now and then? Citizens want to commit crimes and still want all their rights respected. Stupid.
Don't start no shit, wont be no shit.


And here's the real story, but nice try with your "scenario":

The 15-year-old and her family have not been identified. The three-minute-long video starts with the girl having a fight in public with a woman who police identified as her mother. The mother has her daughter pinned to the ground in the parking lot of Charter East, part of the Ombudsman Charter Schools in Phoenix. The girl was reportedly intoxicated and sharing alcohol at the school, ABC Affiliate KNXV reported.

The charter school works with at-risk students.

The girl, wearing denim shorts and a T-shirt, fights her mother's hold, eventually getting up. The mother keeps trying to grab the girl, nearly pulling her shirt off.

When the police arrive, the girl is walking away from her mother.

Officer Larrison can be seen on camera trying to catch up with the girl. He picks up speed. As she turns around to see him, he body-slams her, sending her to the ground.

Source: http://abcnews.go.com/US/arizona-police-officer-body-slams-drunk-teen-girl/story?id=13545127

>> ^ponceleon:

>> ^Mindfuck:
Only in America.

Yeah, in many other countries they would have shot her.


For slowly walking away!? Jesus Tap-dancing Christ! What countries are you talking about? So I can avoid them.

>> ^sme4r:

Who cares, the bitch had it coming. She had already struck the other woman, she is now a danger to herself and others. I have seen far worse examples of police brutality, and this hardly justifies this kind of anger. No one can dispute that Cops can be excessive, but come on. Judging by the Scenario, the girl that she was fighting looked to be a Loss Prevention Agent, the girl who got "booshed" prolly stole some shit first. Can you imagine how terrible crime would be if Cops didn't flex their muscles every now and then? Citizens want to commit crimes and still want all their rights respected. Stupid.
Don't start no shit, wont be no shit.


1) No matter what she did it's not in the officers' rights to exact punishment. They're just supposed to arrest her.

2) Yes, citizens want to commit crimes and still have their rights respected. That's how laws and rights work; criminals have rights just like the rest of us. Some of them can be revoked or limited through due process, but that brings us back to point 1 -- she's not guilty of anything yet. The police can't make that decision, the courts have to.

>> ^mfsteele:

Because a running tackle on a 15 year old girl is so much more effective than shouting "Stop!! Police!!"


I really dont have a problem with this. Why give the girl a chance to take off running? She could also have a weapon of some sort. She could be high. The officer doesnt know any of this and its best for their and everybodies safety to end it quickly.

>> ^Ti_Moth:

>> ^ponceleon:
>> ^Mindfuck:
Only in America.

Yeah, in many other countries they would have shot her.

For slowly walking away!? Jesus Tap-dancing Christ! What countries are you talking about? So I can avoid them.


Um, let's see. Russia (KGB-say what?!,) China (Maybe a bit different with the newer regimes,) Syria, Libya, Egypt, Iraq, Afghanistan, some nations in Africa (That goes for tribes too,) and a few others.

If you think not, then the propaganda machine obviously works well for those countries. But on a side note, only in America (and a few other countries) would this cop be punished. Upvote the comment if you like that last statement, even if you hate me...

Brutal? Yeah.

Justified? Maybe, maybe not.

Avoidable? 100%

I'm a huge proponent of police reform. I absolutely hate how much violence is perpetrated by the arrogant boys in blue.

But when a cop tells you to stop, you fucking stop! You don't have to talk to them, you don't have to incriminate yourself, and you don't have to agree to searches. But if a police officer tells you to stop, and you don't stop, expect a beating real soon. Most people who run are running for a reason, and the cop doesn't have any reason to go easy on you.

sorry at least she was a suspect disobeying a lawful order.... unlike that kid in seattle who got clocked INTO the wall and went into a coma and he didn't even do anything.


the cop tells her to comply, she doesn't. nothing to see here.

At least it wasn't in Seattle for a change . . .

>> ^Lawdeedaw:
But on a side note, only in America (and a few other countries) would this cop be punished.


QFT. This is blatant assault and it's good the cop is in trouble, but in depressingly many countries nobody would dare criticise such an act. They wouldn't dare film it so overtly either.

Agreed. Or most who don't stop are ready to fight. It is, just like clenching your fists, taking off your shirt, jumping to get the blood flowing, or crossing your arms, a sign of getting mentally ready for confrontation.

e>> ^MaxWilder:

Brutal? Yeah.
Justified? Maybe, maybe not.
Avoidable? 100%
I'm a huge proponent of police reform. I absolutely hate how much violence is perpetrated by the arrogant boys in blue.
But when a cop tells you to stop, you fucking stop! You don't have to talk to them, you don't have to incriminate yourself, and you don't have to agree to searches. But if a police officer tells you to stop, and you don't stop, expect a beating real soon. Most people who run are running for a reason, and the cop doesn't have any reason to go easy on you.

I think that those that don't see a problem with the action the policeman takes fail to see the potential damage that could have been done to the girl. Obviously if she was told to stop and she didn't, then some force may be necessary, however she was next to a concrete wall, and fell onto concrete, she could have very easily had her head split open or suffered very serious cervical vertebra damage from the whiplash. What happened was perhaps justified if the person walking away was much larger than the cop and it was in more of an open area - however it wasn't, so it shows a clear lack of responsibility on behalf of the cop, he simply didn't think before he acted, it was all adrenaline.

Also, do those that use the excuse 'it's worse in other countries' mind if justice went the way of countries such as China? I think not...

>> ^Chaucer:

>> ^mfsteele:
Because a running tackle on a 15 year old girl is so much more effective than shouting "Stop!! Police!!"

I really dont have a problem with this. Why give the girl a chance to take off running? She could also have a weapon of some sort. She could be high. The officer doesnt know any of this and its best for their and everybodies safety to end it quickly.


Your problem with it should be that it was a vindictive act. If she had started running and he was chasing her, then he twatted her, fair enough. She wasn't running, he KNEW he was about to catch up with her, and yet he launched her into the wall and floor. He wanted to do it, it was not a thing of necessity - simples!

And you can't really argue with that.

I don't know about other countries, but you don't get shot in china for simply walking away (they may tackle your ass like this cop, though). Their due process is obviously not american, but it's not nearly so brutal.

And cops in the states have done much worse and been given a slap on the wrist. Cops in the US can straight up murder people with impunity in the right circumstances.>> ^Lawdeedaw:
>> ^Ti_Moth:
>> ^ponceleon:
>> ^Mindfuck:
Only in America.

Yeah, in many other countries they would have shot her.

For slowly walking away!? Jesus Tap-dancing Christ! What countries are you talking about? So I can avoid them.

Um, let's see. Russia (KGB-say what?!,) China (Maybe a bit different with the newer regimes,) Syria, Libya, Egypt, Iraq, Afghanistan, some nations in Africa (That goes for tribes too,) and a few others.
If you think not, then the propaganda machine obviously works well for those countries. But on a side note, only in America (and a few other countries) would this cop be punished. Upvote the comment if you like that last statement, even if you hate me...

>> ^Lawdeedaw:

>> ^Ti_Moth:
>> ^ponceleon:
>> ^Mindfuck:
Only in America.

Yeah, in many other countries they would have shot her.

For slowly walking away!? Jesus Tap-dancing Christ! What countries are you talking about? So I can avoid them.

Um, let's see. Russia (KGB-say what?!,) China (Maybe a bit different with the newer regimes,) Syria, Libya, Egypt, Iraq, Afghanistan, some nations in Africa (That goes for tribes too,) and a few others.
If you think not, then the propaganda machine obviously works well for those countries. But on a side note, only in America (and a few other countries) would this cop be punished. Upvote the comment if you like that last statement, even if you hate me...


Well, well done America for being better than a couple of warzones, a couple of virtual police states and some corrupt backwaters, pat yourselves on the back.

>> ^Lawdeedaw:

>> ^Ti_Moth:
>> ^ponceleon:
>> ^Mindfuck:
Only in America.

Yeah, in many other countries they would have shot her.

For slowly walking away!? Jesus Tap-dancing Christ! What countries are you talking about? So I can avoid them.

Um, let's see. Russia (KGB-say what?!,) China (Maybe a bit different with the newer regimes,) Syria, Libya, Egypt, Iraq, Afghanistan, some nations in Africa (That goes for tribes too,) and a few others.
If you think not, then the propaganda machine obviously works well for those countries. But on a side note, only in America (and a few other countries) would this cop be punished. Upvote the comment if you like that last statement, even if you hate me...


If you think police just execute people on the streets in these countries, you are out of your freaking mind. Stop making up bullshit just to make this shitty cop look better.

Uhm, wtf? Do you really believe this? >> ^Lawdeedaw:
But on a side note, only in America (and a few other countries) would this cop be punished. Upvote the comment if you like that last statement, even if you hate me...

In the cop's defense, I don't think he planned to hit her nearly as hard as he did.

I know there's been a couple times playing basketball where I'm accelerating and a guy in front of me decelerates (exactly what was happening here), you can end up really rolling someone over. It's much worse if you're bigger, and especially if you're a bit out of shape (and thus can't respond quickly).

I think he thought she was going to run and surged forward to grab her (or shove her forward off balance a bit so she couldn't run - a move you see fairly often in low-level tackle football), and then when she turned he didn't react fast enough. You can see afterward the cop is pretty off balance - if he had intended a painful tackle he would have followed through differently I think.

Anyways, I'm not saying he didn't do anything wrong - but I do think it turned out much worse (ie. he hit much harder) than he intended.

>> ^gwiz665:

Uhm, wtf? Do you really believe this? >> ^Lawdeedaw:
But on a side note, only in America (and a few other countries) would this cop be punished. Upvote the comment if you like that last statement, even if you hate me...



Absolutely. You think Mexico, or Russia, or a lot of Arab-Muslim nations would care to punish? Especially for a few bucks or in the case of Islam, a bit of heresy accusations? America may be horribly flawed, but it is still better than half the other nations (And even Canada has its beat downs of citizens that are looked the other way in the name of 'national security.')

So summing it up---I absolutely believe what I said. Am I right? I have been wrong before, but that's life.

Well, at least it went from "a few" to "half". America isn't all that great, seen from the outside. The idea of American Exceptionalism is horribly wrong and self-aggrandizing.
>> ^Lawdeedaw:

>> ^gwiz665:
Uhm, wtf? Do you really believe this? >> ^Lawdeedaw:
But on a side note, only in America (and a few other countries) would this cop be punished. Upvote the comment if you like that last statement, even if you hate me...


Absolutely. You think Mexico, or Russia, or a lot of Arab-Muslim nations would care to punish? Especially for a few bucks or in the case of Islam, a bit of heresy accusations? America may be horribly flawed, but it is still better than half the other nations (And even Canada has its beat downs of citizens that are looked the other way in the name of 'national security.')
So summing it up---I absolutely believe what I said. Am I right? I have been wrong before, but that's life.

We are better than half the nations out there--and a few other countries was being both sarcastic and true at the same time. Sooo, it didn't go from anything, to anything. (That may be picking small points, but it seems you focused far too much yourself on the small details.)

And I agree Gwiz, American exceptionalism is highly incorrect. Like I said, we are better than half, at least. But that's not saying much.

>> ^gwiz665:

Well, at least it went from "a few" to "half". America isn't all that great, seen from the outside. The idea of American Exceptionalism is horribly wrong and self-aggrandizing.
>> ^Lawdeedaw:
>> ^gwiz665:
Uhm, wtf? Do you really believe this? >> ^Lawdeedaw:
But on a side note, only in America (and a few other countries) would this cop be punished. Upvote the comment if you like that last statement, even if you hate me...


Absolutely. You think Mexico, or Russia, or a lot of Arab-Muslim nations would care to punish? Especially for a few bucks or in the case of Islam, a bit of heresy accusations? America may be horribly flawed, but it is still better than half the other nations (And even Canada has its beat downs of citizens that are looked the other way in the name of 'national security.')
So summing it up---I absolutely believe what I said. Am I right? I have been wrong before, but that's life.

Clearly, you've all forgotten that on Videosift, all police brutality videos completely justify your pet political philosophy, and is an entirely appropriate time to haughtily laugh at the small mindedness of people who disagree with you, while accusing them of being pro-brutality.

Which is to say, "Ha ha, reasonable idiots."

This is what you get for not trying to capitalize on tragedy to slander political opponents: reasonable dialogue about the issue of criminal justice. The HORROR!

I was trying to think about how to reply to this video, how to sum up the state of mind some police have and well I only had to look at the rest of videosift's top 10 for inspiration: http://videosift.com/video/Stupid-People-F-ck-Everything-About-Them

They don't want to think they just want to react on whatever basal monkey response comes first, and then rationalize it later.

Oh, its in Phoenix. Its too damn hot to try hard there, especially in an all black outfit... makes perfect sense to throw suspected miscreants against cement walls to stop them from sweatily sauntering away.

Really she's lucky she wasn't drive-by tased from an air-conditioned squad car. Too hot for Lady Justice in Phoenix.

M'eh - a lot of the griping about this cop is 20/20 hindsight. Let's look at the things that the cop DIDN'T know as he arrived there on the scene...

1. Didn't know the two females were related.
2. Didn't know the girl walking away was a teenager.
3. Didn't know whether the girl walking away was drunk, on drugs, or whatever.
4. Didn't know if the girl walking away was armed or not.
5. Didn't know who in the situation was 'the reason' they were called.

So all he really knows is (A) there is an altercation and (B) one person involved in the altercation is trying to leave the scene. I've looked at the vid in slo-mo and it is possible the hard takedown was entirely accidental. To me it looks like he charged at the suspect and then sort did a half-stutterstep / goofy stumble when he misjudged the distance and with is arm already up it just took the chick down hard.

I am never in favor of violence except as a last resort, so I'm not trying to justify such a takedown. However, it seems to me that there is a lot of unnecessary fingerpointing, and other arm-chair generalship about the cop, his motives, and all that other stuff.

That actually sounds like a pretty good way to describe human behavior across all intelligence levels.

With high intelligence you just get better rationalizations.
>> ^Crosswords:

They don't want to think they just want to react on whatever basal monkey response comes first, and then rationalize it later.

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