David Cross on the Tea Baggers

quantumushroomsays...

Cross begins with "Purposely misinformed people, the crazy shit that they believe..." and ends with...a bunch of crazy shit, like the US 'ranking 37th in the world in health care'.

Really? Just two slots ahead of Cuba?

RadHazGsays...

>> ^quantumushroom:

Cross begins with "Purposely misinformed people, the crazy shit that they believe..." and ends with...a bunch of crazy shit, like the US 'ranking 37th in the world in health care'.
Really? Just two slots ahead of Cuba?


Thats right. According to the last study done by the World Health Organization, seen here, the US ranked 37th. This study was done back in 2000 granted, but nothing in the US moves fast enough for us to have moved more than a few positions up if not in fact down due to the economic problems since then.

He's wrong on the child mortality rates as according to the current CIA's latest in 2010 seen here, we're at 180 with about 6.22 deaths /1000 live births. Other studies in previous years show that trend of 6/1000 pretty stable as far as I saw.

Poverty is pretty darn close however as according to the OECD here, we're the 4th. For the richest country in the world to have that many children living below the poverty line? Pretty sad.

He may be off on the numbers (it is a comedy show after all not a political debate) but like all good comedy he has the core truth down. We are NOT the greatest country in the world in these categories, far from it. Its great that we have so many children live, but what kind of life do they have after that? The difference between Cross and the Teabaggers is the Teabaggers are just spouting the opinions they've been fed, Cross is just slightly exaggerating on reality.

thinker247says...

Don't bother QM with facts. He doesn't care.>> ^RadHazG:

>> ^quantumushroom:
Cross begins with "Purposely misinformed people, the crazy shit that they believe..." and ends with...a bunch of crazy shit, like the US 'ranking 37th in the world in health care'.
Really? Just two slots ahead of Cuba?

Thats right. According to the last study done by the World Health Organization, seen here, the US ranked 37th. This study was done back in 2000 granted, but nothing in the US moves fast enough for us to have moved more than a few positions up if not in fact down due to the economic problems since then.
He's wrong on the child mortality rates as according to the current CIA's latest in 2010 seen here, we're at 180 with about 6.22 deaths /1000 live births. Other studies in previous years show that trend of 6/1000 pretty stable as far as I saw.
Poverty is pretty darn close however as according to the OECD here, we're the 4th. For the richest country in the world to have that many children living below the poverty line? Pretty sad.
He may be off on the numbers (it is a comedy show after all not a political debate) but like all good comedy he has the core truth down. We are NOT the greatest country in the world in these categories, far from it. Its great that we have so many children live, but what kind of life do they have after that? The difference between Cross and the Teabaggers is the Teabaggers are just spouting the opinions they've been fed, Cross is just slightly exaggerating on reality.

quantumushroomsays...

" 1. The Left dominates the news media in America; and around the world, leftwing media are almost the only news media.

2. The media report most news in the light of their Leftwing values (whether consciously or not).

3. Most people understandably believe what they read, watch or listen to.

4. This is a major reason most people on the Left are on the Left. They have been given a lifetime of leftist perceptions of the world (especially when one includes higher education) and therefore regard what they believe about the world as reality rather than as a leftwing perception of reality."



The Left measures things in terms of "equality", not quality. If two patients in Cuba lie on filthy mattresses placed on the floor in a dirty hospital wing, that's better than one patient with health insurance and an illegal with "free" health care in America.


November 2nd can't get here fast enough. The people who are fooled ALL the time will finally be outnumbered by everyone else PLUS those numbskull 'independents' who had to learn the hard way this communism bullshit doesn't work; never has, never will.

StukaFoxsays...

>> ^quantumushroom:

" 1. The Left dominates the news media in America; and around the world, leftwing media are almost the only news media.
2. The media report most news in the light of their Leftwing values (whether consciously or not).
3. Most people understandably believe what they read, watch or listen to.
4. This is a major reason most people on the Left are on the Left. They have been given a lifetime of leftist perceptions of the world (especially when one includes higher education) and therefore regard what they believe about the world as reality rather than as a leftwing perception of reality."





What in the FUCK are you going on about?

GenjiKilpatricksays...

@quantumushroom

Let me show you something neat. = D

~~~
1. The Left Right dominates the news media in America; and around the world, leftwing rightwing media are almost the only news media.

2. The media report most news in the light of their Leftwing Rightwing values (whether consciously or not).

3. Most people understandably believe what they read, watch or listen to.

4. This is a major reason most people on the Left Right are on the Left Right. They have been given a lifetime of leftist Rightist perceptions of the world (especially when one includes higher education) and therefore regard what they believe about the world as reality rather than as a leftwing Rightwing perception of reality.

~~~

Now, I know it's difficult but ask yourself for a second..
"What if that tables were flipped, QM old boy?! What might this come to imply?! By god. I must solve this case!"..

OH. Btw, here's this very interesting set of facts you'll logically judge as completely irrelevant. = P

http://www.gallup.com/poll/120857/conservatives-single-largest-ideological-group.aspx

ChaosEnginesays...

You really have to applaud QM. He is either a first rate troll, or a complete moron. Either way, I admire his persistence in the face of all of those inconvenient facts.

Never argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

RadHazGsays...

So I suppose YOU have visited every health facility in Cuba? You can personally vouch for your statements about the quality of care there? Do you have anything beyond the lines fed to you by Faux and the Right Radio Retards?

Does America have the *possibility* for better care? Yes. How many have the ability to take advantage of it? Not nearly as many. That's the discrepancy comes up. Unless your very wealthy or have a solid job your odds of receiving quality health care are slim to none. Is the Right going to do *anything* beyond spend the next several years balled up in a corner covering its ears shouting "nonononono" and spreading lies/fear/idiocy as far as possible?

Give us facts, not quotes from Michael Savage.

quantumushroomsays...

Oh noes. I've been burned by a fucking South Park avatar. Be Somebody, or be somebody's fool, sucka!

>> ^ChaosEngine:

You really have to applaud QM. He is either a first rate troll, or a complete moron. Either way, I admire his persistence in the face of all of those inconvenient facts.
Never argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

quantumushroomsays...

Go to youtube and type in "Cuban health care."

They can't ALL be fakes by Fox.

Do you want a crash course on why American health care is flawed? The consumer doesn't pay directly, so there's no way for capitalism to work. There is no competition and thus no way for prices to come down.

If you want more "solid" jobs, stop electing taxocrats en masse.

And Savage is 100% correct. No artist could make up the daily insanity of the left, not even Dali.

>> ^RadHazG:

So I suppose YOU have visited every health facility in Cuba? You can personally vouch for your statements about the quality of care there? Do you have anything beyond the lines fed to you by Faux and the Right Radio Retards?
Does America have the possibility for better care? Yes. How many have the ability to take advantage of it? Not nearly as many. That's the discrepancy comes up. Unless your very wealthy or have a solid job your odds of receiving quality health care are slim to none. Is the Right going to do anything beyond spend the next several years balled up in a corner covering its ears shouting "nonononono" and spreading lies/fear/idiocy as far as possible?
Give us facts, not quotes from Michael Savage.

RadHazGsays...

>> ^quantumushroom:

Go to youtube and type in "Cuban health care."
They can't ALL be fakes by Fox.
Do you want a crash course on why American health care is flawed? The consumer doesn't pay directly, so there's no way for capitalism to work. There is no competition and thus no way for prices to come down.
If you want more "solid" jobs, stop electing taxocrats en masse.
And Savage is 100% correct. No artist could make up the daily insanity of the left, not even Dali.
"nonononono" and spreading lies/fear/idiocy as far as possible?
Give us facts, not quotes from Michael Savage.



I said facts not youtube clips. You can do the exact same thing to "prove" how bad healthcare is in any country. As for paying directly, its impossible for the average person to pay medical bills in this country, or indeed any country. This is why insurance companies exist, they take the "gamble" that the money they collect from everyone who doesn't file will exceed the amount they have to pay out. The people who do file often do so for things that are WAY outside of what they can reasonably afford. This isn't like selling cars here where you can go buy used to save money. These are unexpected bills because suddenly your sick, dying or otherwise.

I will grant you that the FAR left (the genuine far left not *everyone* on the left as your radio nutjobs would have us all believe) do have some really insane ideas. No more insane than some of the far right wingnutery that goes on. Suing McDonald's because your kids are fat? That's far left insanity in my book. As for electing "taxocrats" here are some more facts for ya. How about that. The taxocrats genuinely provide more growth for everyone, where as far as the Rights are concerned if you don't make obscene amounts of money, you might as well not even exist except to vote them back into office.

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