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I would say something clever here, but I don't want the group to evaluate me negatively.

mix it all up and you end up with "Good Enough" ... which is really all one can hope for (but dont tell certain people)

Think for yourself and don't give a damn what others think or post about you.

You know the author of this video is full of shit when he lets other people do most of the work.. you know like... just randomly using someone elses pics pulled from google..

But then again that would prove his point that groupwork is bad for creativity..

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Interesting. I was thinking about VideoSift when watching this. Was really glad he gave online collaboration a thumbs up.

Not that there's anything inherently bad with individual creativity, but to posit Apple as a font of inventiveness is being willfully ignorant for the sake of your own argument.

Yeah, he's also "borrowing" the English language and technology to make his point. What a witless chump. /sarcasm

Criticize the message, not the medium. Which I agree with, but I think he could have expanded on. And like the poster above, used more than Wozniak/Apple to make one anecdotal point. I would have focused more on the institutional oligarchy that carries huge influence and elicits unquestioned loyalty to earn our greatest minds access to all their tools, networking, and resources. Pity the focus is squarely on making more money and not healing the world.

It's an interesting video, and honestly, I'm not sure whether I agree with it or not.

I suppose I'd segregate it into art and engineering

On the one hand, having a single creative vision can result in some great art.

On the other hand, almost all modern engineering of any kind is a collaborative effort. Systems are simply too big and complex for one person to exercise an auteur-like control over.

The problem to me is not collaboration. The problem is getting the right kind of collaboration. The "design by committee" argument is a result of bike shedding.

Henry Ford famously said “If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses."

Pretty good argument for single creative vision, right? Clearly the "people" didn't understand the paradigm shift.

But no great invention occurs in a vacuum, and no great invention was ever perfect on the first iteration. It's an incredibly hard problem. Feedback from users is undeniably important, but a good engineer must be able to differentiate between useful feedback and people who don't understand the problem domain.

Personally, I work collaboratively 90% of the time. The 10% is the interesting bit though

I agree. Fun video, but maybe it's because that I am fundamentally an introvert no matter how well I try to disguise it, but the whole thing felt like a huge DUH! to me.

So you're telling me that collaboration isn't always good? Sometimes you have to work alone? No shit sherlock! What's that? striking some sort of balance between collaboration and independent work is preferable to mindlessly succumbing to group think? Common sense much?

problem is, certain people will see this and take it too far and use it as a justification for Ayn Rand's philosophies and legitimize selfishness

A balance has to be struck. There is value in individualism and there is value in collaboration. just have to find the right mix and it's not always going to be the same mix.

I'm guessing the author of this video is neither an engineer nor inventor, just an artist... group work in engineering and sciences can be highly productive, and bringing together creative people with different areas of expertise can create a positive feedback loop. The only problem is when you add marketing or business managers to that group (which happens too often in modern corporations, proving the point of the video).

there's a balance to be had in everything

tesla was a super introvert, but he also drove himself nuts

but i think the point of this vid speaks to the dominance of the ego in society, while not quite acknowledging that science is an utter collaboration

But he did mention qualifiers "when properly managed", which got me thinking. He speaks about Evaluation Apprehension, and perhaps the relatively anonymous way for contributing to Wikipedia or Linux (as his examples).

Online communities bear off some of that anonymity so that one can accrue some level of emotional support. Why else do we maintain user names, to recognize each other and internally evaluate comments within that scope? However, a place that ditches that interpersonal continuity, can click through a factorial number more of ideas in no time.

Where is it that Memes are born/bred?