nice post man!
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QM, Pennypacker et al... They will respond to this in one of two ways:


1- "That's what these Spanish OWS losers get! go get a job!"
2- "This is what Obama is going to bring to America!"

Both are equally repulsive, and fictions of their imagination.

Syria needs to serve as a lesson to Spain's leadership. If you continue to meet the peaceful assembly of your own people with force, a breaking point will be reached. Eventually the people will fight back with force and things will very quickly devolve into chaos and civil war.

I agree with showing our solidarity with Spain, but I must insist we not neglect those even worse off in Syria as so many seem eager to do.

>> ^volumptuous:

QM, Pennypacker et al... They will respond to this in one of two ways:

1- "That's what these Spanish OWS losers get! go get a job!"
2- "This is what Obama is going to bring to America!"
Both are equally repulsive, and fictions of their imagination.


Sadly this IS what Obama will bring to America. It's poor consolation that it would be worse under Romney.

Bad or worse: America decides.

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Whats a Country to do when it is out of money? Cut services and keep law an order.

This is what is happening. Lots of pissed off , unemployed people receiving less government benefits, along with higher prices for goods and services due to the government deflating the currency to ease the country's debt.


In America many states and local government are on the edge of bankruptcy. These states and cities will have to do the same as Spain and Greece. Much bloodshed is yet to come.

The Federal government is printing money and borrowing like there is no tomorrow. Tomorrow will surly come and the pied piper will be paid, but only after we collapse.

With little moral fiber left in our leadership, it is easier to spend our self into a depression then face the awful truth and sell the hard sell to the people.

>> ^Mammaltron:

>> ^volumptuous:
QM, Pennypacker et al... They will respond to this in one of two ways:
1- "That's what these Spanish OWS losers get! go get a job!"
2- "This is what Obama is going to bring to America!"
Both are equally repulsive, and fictions of their imagination.

Sadly this IS what Obama will bring to America. It's poor consolation that it would be worse under Romney.
Bad or worse: America decides.


I hope so. GO OCCUPY!!! Also I'd like to point out a lot of the European problems stems from America and the World Economy that it has set up. So we gave that to you, maybe you can give us pointers on how to protest.

After watching this I realize that I am a very weak person. I have been in many protests but I have never been hit with a baton. If I experienced what these people did in the video I know now that I would simply snap. As soon as they started hitting back at that lone officer I shouted "Kill Him!" I'm a weak person, I do not love my fellow man enough to not take his life when he is beating me and in the wrong. Those protesters are immensely strong people, the weak ones have batons, the weak ones fight back with violence.

>> ^bobknight33:

Whats a Country to do when it is out of money? Cut services and keep law an order.
This is what is happening. Lots of pissed off , unemployed people receiving less government benefits, along with higher prices for goods and services due to the government deflating the currency to ease the country's debt.

In America many states and local government are on the edge of bankruptcy. These states and cities will have to do the same as Spain and Greece. Much bloodshed is yet to come.
The Federal government is printing money and borrowing like there is no tomorrow. Tomorrow will surly come and the pied piper will be paid, but only after we collapse.
With little moral fiber left in our leadership, it is easier to spend our self into a depression then face the awful truth and sell the hard sell to the people.


Or it could become a democracy and actually take the peoples votes into account rather than doing whatever it pleases and being ruled by the rich. America is not a poor country it's outstandingly rich, yet the public doesn't get that money...it's not ours but it's our rulers. Our Education and Healthcare could be free, but that doesn't help the rich, so it's not.

>> ^Yogi:
Or it could become a democracy and actually take the peoples votes into account rather than doing whatever it pleases and being ruled by the rich.

How do you change the policies when the problem is in the political machine? I believe this is true of all democratic countries now, to varying degrees.


We shall not return to democracy with democracy

>> ^L0cky:

>> ^Yogi:
Or it could become a democracy and actually take the peoples votes into account rather than doing whatever it pleases and being ruled by the rich.
How do you change the policies when the problem is in the political machine? I believe this is true of all democratic countries now, to varying degrees.

We shall not return to democracy with democracy


not when the wheels of democracy are greased with the money of multinational corporations and banks

not when class warfare is being OPENLY committed by the wealthy on the poor, and any attempt to bring light to it is met with hypocrisy



democrats are the lesser of two evils
Romney is a flat out liar, has no ethics (despite what 'having' religion might say to you), and either doesn't care about anyone not in his socio-economic group... or is just plain out of touch (who let the dogs out)

if you are Republican and aren't in the 1%, you are voting against your interests... you are being distracted by "issues" that may be important to you, but aren't to the people you are voting for for any other reason than to gain power

if you are Democrat... and aren't protesting in the streets (even though your party is "in power") you are failing your country

if you stand back and say "I don't get involved, politics are too dirty"... you are failing yourself, your future, your children, your children's future, your country, and your country's future... you are the OPPOSITE of patriotic, and can only consider yourself a citizen in the form of the burden you place upon others

I'm far from saying don't get involved; only that appealing to government through existing democratic channels is not going to change much. "Please change your ways, pretty please" isn't going to cut it any more.

This isn't a war between the rich and the poor; it's a war between man and the virtual machine we insist on running. It isn't a conspiracy controlled by the few, it's en emergent behaviour perpetuated by the many.

There are those who are more guilty than the rest - where most of us are pedalling the wheels, they are actively strapping on rocket engines for their own gain; but targeting the rich will only get us so far.

If you look at different subjects - genetics, game theory and economics you can see from all of them that a population or economy will always carry the selfish. No more than the population will tolerate, and no less than they will suffer.

I believe we should accept that, and not focus on futile attempts at eliminating the selfish, but at the more realistic task of reducing the opportunity for corruption by them.

We are all responsible.

Each and every one of us that works for, or works with a corporation is contributing to the problem. It's a nonsensical system and it's ripe for corruption, yet we do it to ourselves.

Imagine a mechanical godzilla tearing through a city, causing death and mayhem; crushing schools, burning homes and squashing people in it's path; the city dwellers fleeing and screaming in terror. Imagine that monster of destruction suddenly grinding to a halt; foot steps are heard, a door cranks open.

Who steps out? Is it Mitt Romney? No it's your neighbour Larry; he's clocking off and now it's your shift.>> ^packo:

if you stand back and say "I don't get involved, politics are too dirty"... you are failing yourself, your future, your children, your children's future, your country, and your country's future... you are the OPPOSITE of patriotic, and can only consider yourself a citizen in the form of the burden you place upon others

How do you change the policies when the problem is in the political machine? Its called the 2nd Amendment.

>> ^L0cky:

>> ^Yogi:
Or it could become a democracy and actually take the peoples votes into account rather than doing whatever it pleases and being ruled by the rich.
How do you change the policies when the problem is in the political machine? I believe this is true of all democratic countries now, to varying degrees.

We shall not return to democracy with democracy

>> ^bobknight33:

How do you change the policies when the problem is in the political machine? Its called the 2nd Amendment.
>> ^L0cky:
>> ^Yogi:
Or it could become a democracy and actually take the peoples votes into account rather than doing whatever it pleases and being ruled by the rich.
How do you change the policies when the problem is in the political machine? I believe this is true of all democratic countries now, to varying degrees.
We shall not return to democracy with democracy



Goodluck...the Army has Tanks.

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Spain is in serious trouble because it spends too much money, money it does not have. The Spaniards are rioting over ginormous tax HIKES, which is what American taxocrats continue to demand at every turn.

Obama has already brought market chaos and uncertainty. However you want to polish his crown jewel, the turd known as Obamacare, the results are/will be huge tax hikes, reduction in services, continuing skyrocketing medical costs, and STILL, by their own admission, 30 million without health insurance.

Even if reelected, Obama is a fool and will be forgotten as a symptom of a larger malaise that began a century ago.

At this point, no president is capable of stopping out-of-control government spending. President Romney will only buy us a little more time before imminent revolution; it won't be an MTV version of revolution either, with underwear models with little smudges of black on their multiculural cheeks beating back government stormtroopers with the force of love. It's going to be blood up and over your knees, cities leveled, hell on earth.

Hey, sometimes it's necessary.


>> ^volumptuous:

QM, Pennypacker et al... They will respond to this in one of two ways:

1- "That's what these Spanish OWS losers get! go get a job!"
2- "This is what Obama is going to bring to America!"
Both are equally repulsive, and fictions of their imagination.

>> ^quantumushroom:

Spain is in serious trouble because it spends too much money, money it does not have. The Spaniards are rioting over ginormous tax HIKES, which is what American taxocrats continue to demand at every turn.
Obama has already brought market chaos and uncertainty. However you want to polish his crown jewel, the turd known as Obamacare, the results are/will be huge tax hikes, reduction in services, continuing skyrocketing medical costs, and STILL, by their own admission, 30 million without health insurance.
Even if reelected, Obama is a fool and will be forgotten as a symptom of a larger malaise that began a century ago.
At this point, no president is capable of stopping out-of-control government spending. President Romney will only buy us a little more time before imminent revolution; it won't be an MTV version of revolution either, with underwear models with little smudges of black on their multiculural cheeks beating back government stormtroopers with the force of love. It's going to be blood up and over your knees, cities leveled, hell on earth.
Hey, sometimes it's necessary.

>> ^volumptuous:
QM, Pennypacker et al... They will respond to this in one of two ways:
1- "That's what these Spanish OWS losers get! go get a job!"
2- "This is what Obama is going to bring to America!"
Both are equally repulsive, and fictions of their imagination.



If the Market didn't like Obama, why does it support him soo much monetarily? You need to do your homework man, it's the Rich against guys like us, join the proper side.

I dislike the careless use of the term "rich", it needs a more refined distinction.

A lot of people who are rich are honest and productive to society. They're also needed to help this country out of its recession.

Others are rich because they steal from society or benefit directly from the governments or the Fed, the institutions that steals the most.

So there are the productive rich (good), and the destructive rich or squanderers (bad)

Carry on.

"What if"? I was always taught the government is SUPPOSED to be treated as your enemy. Keeps it honest.

Fuck everything about this. I usually am very pro- law enforcement but this isn't law enforcement, this is totalitarian oppression. And yes, it is mostly "the rich"'s fault. It's the fault of those who gamble with the funds and resources of whole populations and then get reimbursed when they lose their bets by robbing said populations blind. Spain is doing what the Rethuglicans in the US are doing and want to do even further: raise taxes on the poor and middle class and cut the most vital social spending (education and health) so they can pay debts caused by criminal banking shenanigans and fill their thieving pockets. Keep the people poor, hungry and uneducated so you can have an easily manipulated mass to generate riches for a tiny elite, who have the government solidly in their pocket. It's the middle ages all over again.

>> ^renatojj:

I dislike the careless use of the term "rich", it needs a more refined distinction.
A lot of people who are rich are honest and productive to society. They're also needed to help this country out of its recession.
Others are rich because they steal from society or benefit directly from the governments or the Fed, the institutions that steals the most.
So there are the productive rich (good), and the destructive rich or squanderers (bad)
Carry on.


How about we call the destructive "parasites" instead?

For the same reason a kid gives the bully his lunch money.

The American people are sitting on an estimated 2 trillion dollars. They will not invest, hire or start new businesses with Obama in the White House. And rightly so. The parasites--however you choose to define them--just want their MTV.



>> ^Yogi:

>> ^quantumushroom:
Spain is in serious trouble because it spends too much money, money it does not have...
>> ^volumptuous:
QM, Pennypacker et al... They will respond to this in one of two ways:
1- "That's what these Spanish OWS losers get! go get a job!"
2- "This is what Obama is going to bring to America!"
Both are equally repulsive, and fictions of their imagination.


If the Market didn't like Obama, why does it support him soo much monetarily? You need to do your homework man, it's the Rich against guys like us, join the proper side.

This is a really weird juxtaposition -- Andrew Napolitano engaging in one of his usual right-wing fearmongering rants about the evils of "government", played over protesters getting the shit beaten out of them for protesting...spending cuts to government programs.

This is the kind of video blankfist would post, and then leave me a personal comment saying something about how this video demonstrates that all of my political beliefs are wrong, when all it really demonstrates is the level of cognitive dissonance inherent in the entire conservative worldview.

If you let the concept of cutting government budgets get conflated with the idea of protecting your rights as an individual, then your perceptions have become so skewed you're no longer able to make rational sense out of the world you live in.

But then, I guess modern conservatives don't really believe in individual rights anymore. Not really.

>> ^quantumushroom:

For the same reason a kid gives the bully his lunch money.
The American people are sitting on an estimated 2 trillion dollars. They will not invest, hire or start new businesses with Obama in the White House. And rightly so. The parasites--however you choose to define them--just want their MTV.

>> ^Yogi:
>> ^quantumushroom:
Spain is in serious trouble because it spends too much money, money it does not have...
>> ^volumptuous:
QM, Pennypacker et al... They will respond to this in one of two ways:
1- "That's what these Spanish OWS losers get! go get a job!"
2- "This is what Obama is going to bring to America!"
Both are equally repulsive, and fictions of their imagination.


If the Market didn't like Obama, why does it support him soo much monetarily? You need to do your homework man, it's the Rich against guys like us, join the proper side.



Any evidence for any of this will be welcomed.

>> ^renatojj:

I dislike the careless use of the term "rich", it needs a more refined distinction.
A lot of people who are rich are honest and productive to society. They're also needed to help this country out of its recession.
Others are rich because they steal from society or benefit directly from the governments or the Fed, the institutions that steals the most.
So there are the productive rich (good), and the destructive rich or squanderers (bad)
Carry on.


When we use the term "Rich" we're usually not referring to just people with money. We're using it to refer to the Owners of the Country, those who buy the elections and expect what they paid for. Those who control the wealth of this nation and use the Managers to keep the mob at bay.

Also the Fed and the Government work for those owners of the nation and they have their own Welfare. Too Big to Fail it's called, knowing that no matter what happens, they will get bailed out by the Nanny state that they formed to protect them from the people and losing all their money.

@Yogi I see. Usually complaints against "the rich" are unceremoniously dismissed by some people as just envious socialist rants, since, you know, socialists are known for being against the very institution of private property. Just trying to clear things out.

I think semantics play an important role in many disagreements.

No matter how honest you are if you have a huge amount of money and / or income you have to realize that you have that at the expense of others. If you are an honest person then find ways to spend that money wisely because holding on to it slows down the economy and further hurts those that suffer in order for you to get that money in the first place.

Any evidence for any of this will be welcomed.


Idle corporate cash piles up

IRS data suggests that, globally, U.S. nonfinancial companies hold at least three times more cash and other liquid assets than the Federal Reserve reports, idle money that could be creating jobs, funding dividends or even paying a stiff federal penalty tax for hoarding corporate cash.

The Fed’s latest Flow of Funds report showed that U.S. nonfinancial companies held $1.7 trillion in liquid assets at the end of March. But newly released IRS figures show that in 2009 these companies held $4.8 trillion in liquid assets, which equals $5.1 trillion in today’s dollars, triple the Fed figure.

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“I’m afraid of the president,” said Wynn. “I have no idea what goofy idea, what crazy, anti-business program this administration will come up. I have no idea. And I have to tell you, Jon, that every business guy I know in the country is frightened of Barack Obama and the way he thinks.”

--Steven Wynn, CEO of Wynn Resorts

I turned off the audio because of the music. I don't like over-dramatization of an already dramatic video; it takes away the shock!

Romney could definitely spend some of that hard-earned money of his that's parked in The Cayman Islands to create some jobs over here. Him stowing away millions overseas instead of investing it at home, yes, I have a BIG problem with that!

>> ^quantumushroom:

Any evidence for any of this will be welcomed.

Idle corporate cash piles up
IRS data suggests that, globally, U.S. nonfinancial companies hold at least three times more cash and other liquid assets than the Federal Reserve reports, idle money that could be creating jobs, funding dividends or even paying a stiff federal penalty tax for hoarding corporate cash.
The Fed’s latest Flow of Funds report showed that U.S. nonfinancial companies held $1.7 trillion in liquid assets at the end of March. But newly released IRS figures show that in 2009 these companies held $4.8 trillion in liquid assets, which equals $5.1 trillion in today’s dollars, triple the Fed figure.
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“I’m afraid of the president,” said Wynn. “I have no idea what goofy idea, what crazy, anti-business program this administration will come up. I have no idea. And I have to tell you, Jon, that every business guy I know in the country is frightened of Barack Obama and the way he thinks.”
--Steven Wynn, CEO of Wynn Resorts

"This is the kind of video blankfist would post, and then leave me a personal comment saying something about how this video demonstrates that all of my political beliefs are wrong, when all it really demonstrates is the level of cognitive dissonance inherent in the entire conservative worldview."

Except I was never a conservative. And that's also assuming a lot from me. And possibly a misrepresentation of my character. Glad to see things didn't change while I was out.