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Adding video to channels (News, Wings) - requested by ant.

Luckily no. My sister has gone to a few balloon gatherings in New Mexico though. Not sure how many times she's been up in one.

How is this not snuff again?

Well, you need to know the definition.

A snuff film is a film in which someone is killed for other people's pleasure, not the killer's.

I know what snuff means, but VS has always carried a narrower definition of it. Unless it is a small part of a larger video based around news or a documentary, it usually gets tagged. I've avoided posting stuff where people die for that reason, even if they die off camera.

Your news clip might get around it, but the original one definitely breaks rule 3 imo. Unless we are relaxing that rule, which would be helpful to know.

Maybe your question should have been, "How does this not go against VS rules."

I simply answered your question with no intent to humiliate you.

EDIT: As far as the original video goes it was approved by fuzzyundies BSR ant newtboy Spacey 00Scud00 C-note eric3579

To be fair, I often Upvote videos later deemed to be snuff. You can't use my Upvote to assume my position on this being snuff, I won't speak for others.
This one is on the line for me since there was no death on camera. It's kind of up to the community as I see it. If you get complaints (not just questions) taking it down is the respectful thing to do.
Technically IMO, the recent building collapse video is snuff more than this one since, although you can't see them, those deaths were on camera. I Upvoted it too. 🤦‍♂️

I believe both these videos should go straight to the heart. If it pains anyone then that is the right response for the right reason.

Edit: Technically IMO, these videos were not posted for entertainment and were not about murder therefore not snuff. It is a tragedy.

You continue to use the common definition of "snuff".
Here's what the terms and conditions say.

The presence of human fatality is acceptable and not considered "snuff" if presented as a limited, incidental portion of a lengthy educational, informative news report or documentary that encompasses a much broader narrative. Our definition of "snuff" does include but is not exclusive to any short clip in which a human fatality occurs whether or not any victims are actually visible on camera.

There was no lengthy educational or informative news report or documentary here, just a short clip in which 5 fatalities occur, although not visible on camera.

I'm not trying to have it removed, just pointing out that you are actually violating the snuff rule by the sift's definition....a definition that maybe should be reexamined.

I concur.

What would be your suggestion?

Oh shit! You want solutions!? Uh oh.

Maybe a sift talk post or poll to see if changing the definition or policy is popular would be a good start?

Too many tumbleweeds blowing around in Sift Talk.

The definition of "snuff" was incorrectly changed by inserting rules that make it inaccurate.

As a solution maybe make a stand alone rule about "death" videos?

I would never want to see a snuff video here. It's not the right place and I don't think there should be a right place.

After some discussion, it seems that we are slightly relaxing the rule so I withdraw my concerns.

"A buddhist, a muslim, a nun and a jew were stuck in a hot air balloon.

It suddenly popped and though they prayed as it dropped, it proves that God hates us all!"

-- (whatever happened to) the Chainsaw Juggler?"
The Four Postmen

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