"Some of the guys aren't even remotely smiling" Amy rocks it

I was a tad uncomfortable, until I realized the brilliance of what she is doing and continues to do.
siftbotsays...

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eric3579jokingly says...

Comedy is weird that way. To each his own I guess.

It's become apparent to me recently not everyone appreciates getting fisted in the ass. Who knew?

ulysses1904said:

I must be getting old as I don't get her at all. Only started to see her clips in the past few months and I don't think I have laughed once.

bareboards2says...

Just curious, given this comment. No judgment here, just curiosity....

Do you consider yourself a feminist? Do you think you have an appreciation for the struggles of women in today's hyper-sexualized society?

Are you annoyed at women complaining about gender issues and their struggles?

These are honest questions, I swear. I know women who aren't feminist, who don't have an appreciation blah blah blah. You could be one of them. Although I think you are a man of a certain age.

So? Are you? A self described feminist?

ulysses1904said:

I must be getting old as I don't get her at all. Only started to see her clips in the past few months and I don't think I have laughed once.

ulysses1904says...

No, don't overthink it. It's not some deep complicated reaction to artificial gender\comedy\social issues you read about in blogs, it's just stale humor to me. I'm sure many find her deadpan delivery of facial cream-pie queef soiled panty jokes to be ground-breaking. If Eisenhower was in the White House I'm sure I would think so too but it's been done a billion times.

If you don't laugh at the "why did the chicken cross the road" joke does that make you an animal rights activist?

bareboards2said:

Just curious, given this comment. No judgment here, just curiosity....

Do you consider yourself a feminist? Do you think you have an appreciation for the struggles of women in today's hyper-sexualized society?

Are you annoyed at women complaining about gender issues and their struggles?

These are honest questions, I swear. I know women who aren't feminist, who don't have an appreciation blah blah blah. You could be one of them. Although I think you are a man of a certain age.

So? Are you? A self described feminist?

articiansays...

Hilarious. So many men are so threatened by her, it's awesome. She reminds me of the character in Pitch Perfect who refers to her vagina as a "he", which is one of the greatest pro-women statements I've heard in my life. (Just about like every skit Schumer produces).

dannym3141says...

misandry
mɪˈsandri/
noun
dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against men (i.e. the male sex).

Your prejudice? "If a male expresses that he doesn't find a female funny, it can ONLY be because he is a sexist pig." The sexism is demonstrably yours and yours alone. You owe this person an apology.

Stop for a second and really ask yourself this question - what comedian (male or female) in the world receives universal approval from every other human being?

Not everything has to be about gender, and feminism could do without your misandric toxicity.

bareboards2said:

Just curious, given this comment. No judgment here, just curiosity....

Do you consider yourself a feminist? Do you think you have an appreciation for the struggles of women in today's hyper-sexualized society?

Are you annoyed at women complaining about gender issues and their struggles?

These are honest questions, I swear. I know women who aren't feminist, who don't have an appreciation blah blah blah. You could be one of them. Although I think you are a man of a certain age.

So? Are you? A self described feminist?

Asmosays...

How so? (the "men threatened by her" comment)

She's joking about fashion magazines which are mostly run by women, filled with content aimed at women, designed to make women feel like shit unless they conform to the 'style' or 'trend' or 'ideal weight - 20%'.

She makes the joke that she can catch a dick whenever she wants, I don't think it's men that have the problem...

And no, I do not find her funny either, but more power to her for getting out there. She seems well and truly aware that she doesn't need my (or any other man's) approval to do what she does. I don't think she needs the Videosift white knight brigade running to her rescue either... (talk about patriarchal)

articiansaid:

Hilarious. So many men are so threatened by her, it's awesome.

bareboards2says...

Oh honey. You are so off base.

Did you miss the bit where I say that I know women who aren't feminists?

Not every woman is a feminist.

And not every man ISN'T a feminist.

Look in the mirror, my friend. The person with the biggest gender issues, if we have to choose between you and me, isn't me.

I won't be responding to anything else you write. I have had long long LONG private exchanges with you in the past that have garnered nothing a repetition of this same comment of yours.

So say what you will about me now and in the future. I will not be responding. It is a waste of time.

dannym3141said:

misandry
mɪˈsandri/
noun
dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against men (i.e. the male sex).

Your prejudice? "If a male expresses that he doesn't find a female funny, it can ONLY be because he is a sexist pig." The sexism is demonstrably yours and yours alone. You owe this person an apology.

Stop for a second and really ask yourself this question - what comedian (male or female) in the world receives universal approval from every other human being?

Not everything has to be about gender, and feminism could do without your misandric toxicity.

xxovercastxxsays...

I have seen a number of the skits from her show and while they often have something clever to them, they generally seem to lack a punchline. However, I find her entertaining in interviews (eg her appearance on Comedians in Cars).

So I thought maybe I just didn't care for her skits... Standup and sketch comedy are very different and being good at one doesn't mean you're any good at the other. A few weeks ago I found Women Who Kill on youtube and watched the whole thing. Amy was funny in that. Unfortunately, it's because she's basically performing Bonnie McFarlane's act.

I got to discover Marina Franklin, though, so that was a plus.

bareboards2says...

Yeah, but it is complicated on my end. Hence I find her brilliant.

I love that you picked that particular "joke". I didn't like it at first -- I thought it was crude and I was instantly uncomfortable. And in the very next moment, I got it. I got what she was doing. She was taking a woman's body and the way it works AND TAKING THE SHAME OUT OF IT.

Now, if you aren't a person who is in touch with the shame that most women have about how their bodies work, that is just a crude nothing of a nothing.

But I am a woman who carries that shame. She exploded it. She made it on par with the tired old joke of men and their skid mark underwear. She turned it into NOTHING.

It isn't a very good joke. I agree with you.

And it is brilliant for what it achieves.

And that is why I love her. She does this over and over and over again. She is de-shaming women about their bodies and their sexuality and their mistakes. Guys are really good at making fun of themselves. It is one thing I really admire about men, and as I get older, even before Amy came along, I have thought we should emulate that characteristic. Amy is doing that for us. Bless her, really really bless her.

But I don't think you get the joke. Many women don't get the joke -- they are stuck in the shame and think she is just crude.

It's okay. You don't have to get the joke. You also don't have to enjoy anal fisting. Ha.

ulysses1904said:

No, don't overthink it. It's not some deep complicated reaction to artificial gender\comedy\social issues you read about in blogs, it's just stale humor to me. I'm sure many find her deadpan delivery of facial cream-pie queef soiled panty jokes to be ground-breaking. If Eisenhower was in the White House I'm sure I would think so too but it's been done a billion times.

If you don't laugh at the "why did the chicken cross the road" joke does that make you an animal rights activist?

ulysses1904says...

Um, you’re still overthinking it. I don’t think comedy and jokes are worth dissecting, like we’re at some seminar with Powerpoint slides showing intersecting circles and flowcharts and phylogenetic trees showing comedy lineage, trying to extract the "why".

I don’t think men are “threatened” by her comedy (as someone here wrote) any more than I’m threatened by seeing a video of Miley Cyrus shouting “eat my pu**y” into the mic and then gyrating against a blow up doll. I’m sure somebody out there must find that very shocking and sexy.

Didn’t mean to hit Pause on the laugh track, I just don’t find her funny for no other reason than she doesn't make me laugh. To each his own.

bareboards2said:

Yeah, but it is complicated on my end. Hence I find her brilliant.

I love that you picked that particular "joke". I didn't like it at first -- I thought it was crude and I was instantly uncomfortable. And in the very next moment, I got it. I got what she was doing. She was taking a woman's body and the way it works AND TAKING THE SHAME OUT OF IT.

Now, if you aren't a person who is in touch with the shame that most women have about how their bodies work, that is just a crude nothing of a nothing.

But I am a woman who carries that shame. She exploded it. She made it on par with the tired old joke of men and their skid mark underwear. She turned it into NOTHING.

It isn't a very good joke. I agree with you.

And it is brilliant for what it achieves.

And that is why I love her. She does this over and over and over again. She is de-shaming women about their bodies and their sexuality and their mistakes. Guys are really good at making fun of themselves. It is one thing I really admire about men, and as I get older, even before Amy came along, I have thought we should emulate that characteristic. Amy is doing that for us. Bless her, really really bless her.

But I don't think you get the joke. Many women don't get the joke -- they are stuck in the shame and think she is just crude.

It's okay. You don't have to get the joke. You also don't have to enjoy anal fisting. Ha.

bareboards2says...

Actually, my friend, 'tis you who is overthinking it now.

Recap of our convo:

You: I don't think she's funny.

Me: Wondering if this comedy is directed at you.

You: Nah, I don't think she is funny.

Me: I hear you. Let me tell you why I find her funny.

You: Nah, you're wrong, I don't think she is funny.

Your last response "should" have been -- Huh. So that is why you think she is funny. I still don't find her funny. Or maybe -- Huh. I don't want to think about it. Don't bother me with your opinion.

No need to bring up what anyone else said in this comment stream. I'm not them.

It's all good. You don't think she is funny and you aren't interested in knowing why someone else might.

As for "overthinking", many many column inches have been written by relatively serious people over why Amy Schumer is so wildly popular. Oddly enough, none of those articles mention you personally.

That last line? That was a joke. But you don't have to think it is funny. It makes me laugh though.

TLDR: You are absolutely entitled to your opinion. You aren't entitled to belittle me and what interests me, not without getting some blowback from me.

ulysses1904said:

Um, you’re still overthinking it. I don’t think comedy and jokes are worth dissecting, like we’re at some seminar with Powerpoint slides showing intersecting circles and flowcharts and phylogenetic trees showing comedy lineage, trying to extract the "why".

I don’t think men are “threatened” by her comedy (as someone here wrote) any more than I’m threatened by seeing a video of Miley Cyrus shouting “eat my pu**y” into the mic and then gyrating against a blow up doll. I’m sure somebody out there must find that very shocking and sexy.

Didn’t mean to hit Pause on the laugh track, I just don’t find her funny for no other reason than she doesn't make me laugh. To each his own.

Mordhaussays...

Here is the basic situation. If you find her funny because she discusses women's issues in a way you find to be humorous, more power to you.

I personally don't think she is funny. In fact, I would go so far as to say that unless she is performing material that someone else wrote, she is extremely terrible at comedy.

Is it because I am a guy? Maybe. I mean I understood what she was doing. She was basically trying to use sarcastic humor to take pot shots at the magazine because they enforce a lot of stereotypes to their readers. I just think that she went about it in a lowest common denominator sort of way. It was crude and clumsy from my viewpoint.

But in the end, it really doesn't matter. You either find her funny or you don't. I can't throw stones at you if you think she is funny. I like Stephen Wright and Mitch Hedberg while a lot of people think they are terrible. Comedy is something personal to everyone, and you like who you like.

bareboards2says...

@Mordhaus I don't know if your comment was quasi-directed at me. I'm going to pretend it was.

I was awkward in my phrasing, but I was actually doing a tiny little survey.

My question really is -- IF YOU ARE A FEMINIST, are you more likely to find Amy funny? IF YOU ARE AWARE OF THE BODY AND SEXUALITY ISSUES OF WOMEN, are you more likely to find Amy funny?

I don't know if Ulysses is male or female for sure. It is just a guess that that avatar and that name makes that person male.

I have a gender neutral name and my avatar is a tribute to my father who died two months ago. So you can't tell my gender from the information presented here.

And you are absolutely right. Funny is what is funny to you.

I'm just curious who "you" is and if it might have a bearing on whether or not Amy is funny to you.

Tina Fey thinks she is funny. Tina Fey is a feminist. All the people I know who like her are feminists.

I was just asking.

Mordhaussays...

I can't speak to the feminist portion of your question. I am not a feminist; more of a humanist, really. I could assume that having a related ideology might make her jokes more palatable, but it would be only a base assumption.

I asked my wife to view this clip on youtube, without reading the comments on this link. She is not a feminist either, so I simply asked her as a woman, did she find this funny? She said that clip was "mildly amusing" but she did not believe me when I told her that Amy was one of the top female comedians right now. Bear in mind that we don't watch cable, only Netflix and Prime, so she has not had exposure to her comedy skits on Inside Amy Schumer.

I do think Tina Fey is funny for the most part. I love Iliza Shlesinger. Kathleen Madigan puts me in stitches. I would say that this clip https://youtu.be/4wzpYDnqhiI is hilarious and meets your aforementioned criteria. The thing is, I personally find that clip hilarious, and I can't really say that about most of Ms. Schumer's work.

bareboards2said:

@Mordhaus I don't know if your comment was quasi-directed at me. I'm going to pretend it was.

I was awkward in my phrasing, but I was actually doing a tiny little survey.

My question really is -- IF YOU ARE A FEMINIST, are you more likely to find Amy funny? IF YOU ARE AWARE OF THE BODY AND SEXUALITY ISSUES OF WOMEN, are you more likely to find Amy funny?

I don't know if Ulysses is male or female for sure. It is just a guess that that avatar and that name makes that person male.

I have a gender neutral name and my avatar is a tribute to my father who died two months ago. So you can't tell my gender from the information presented here.

And you are absolutely right. Funny is what is funny to you.

I'm just curious who "you" is and if it might have a bearing on whether or not Amy is funny to you.

Tina Fey thinks she is funny. Tina Fey is a feminist. All the people I know who like her are feminists.

I was just asking.

Asmosays...

You seem to be offended that Ulysses spoke up that he didn't find her funny, and have taken it to the nth degree (really, analogies re: anal fisting?), but a big part of Amy's speech/performance was the idea that she has always been a bit unique and saw no reason to change herself to conform to others ideas of what she should do or be.

So why do people who do not find her funny suddenly owe you an explanation as to why? Why is it even a point of analysis? If the hypothesis is that if you're not a feminist, you're more likely to not find her funny, is it not also possible that feminists are more likely to find her funny because they subjectively want her to be funny? Aka confirmation bias.

Amy doesn't seem to mind that some people don't find her funny, so I don't see why it seems to irk you so much.

ps. Tina Fey is hilarious in ways Schumer has never managed imo, as is Amy Poehler. Similarly, I find Eddie Murphy funny but never really got much of a laugh out of Richard Prior or Bill Cosby. That doesn't say anything about my values or attitudes towards women and black men, it's just a subjective opinion based on what they say or do.

bareboards2said:

My question really is -- IF YOU ARE A FEMINIST, are you more likely to find Amy funny? IF YOU ARE AWARE OF THE BODY AND SEXUALITY ISSUES OF WOMEN, are you more likely to find Amy funny?

...

I'm just curious who "you" is and if it might have a bearing on whether or not Amy is funny to you.

Tina Fey thinks she is funny. Tina Fey is a feminist. All the people I know who like her are feminists.

bareboards2says...

Except I wasn't offended. I was curious.

Funny how a simple question gets some folks bent out of shape.

Remember I said that some women aren't feminists in my original post. I also said no judgment. I also said I was curious.

What part of that shouts that I am offended?

I am honestly curious.

Mordhaus got it. He just answered my question.

Asmosaid:

You seem to be offended that Ulysses spoke up that he didn't find her funny, and have taken it to the nth degree (really, analogies re: anal fisting?), but a big part of Amy's speech/performance was the idea that she has always been a bit unique and saw no reason to change herself to conform to others ideas of what she should do or be.

So why do people who do not find her funny suddenly owe you an explanation as to why? Why is it even a point of analysis? If the hypothesis is that if you're not a feminist, you're more likely to not find her funny, is it not also possible that feminists are more likely to find her funny because they subjectively want her to be funny? Aka confirmation bias.

Amy doesn't seem to mind that some people don't find her funny, so I don't see why it seems to irk you so much.

ps. Tina Fey is hilarious in ways Schumer has never managed imo, as is Amy Poehler. Similarly, I find Eddie Murphy funny but never really got much of a laugh out of Richard Prior or Bill Cosby. That doesn't say anything about my values or attitudes towards women and black men, it's just a subjective opinion based on what they say or do.

Asmosays...

You asked Ulysses a question and he answered it. Stale humour, he did not find it funny. Curiousity sated.

You escalated from there.

Perhaps offended was the wrong word, but you seem driven to prove that non feminists, particularly the male variant, seem to be colourblind to Schuler's humour, it's something they can't possibly find funny because their attitude or lack of understanding blocks out the spectrum where the funny wavelength is in this particular comedic light source. Basically any other reason than a good old fashioned, totally subjective "I didn't find that funny".

bareboards2said:

Except I wasn't offended. I was curious.

Funny how a simple question gets some folks bent out of shape.

Remember I said that some women aren't feminists in my original post. I also said no judgment. I also said I was curious.

What part of that shouts that I am offended?

I am honestly curious.

Mordhaus got it. He just answered my question.

bareboards2says...

My curiosity clearly wasn't sated, or I wouldn't have asked my question.

I am actually really intrigued by this, and plan on asking lots of people.

I know that there will probably be feminists who don't like her. I am really interested in engaging with them about what they don't like.

Why is this so important to you? Why do you need me to not ask my questions? Why the angry words being ascribed to me?

See? Now I have more questions. Wanna keep going?

I don't.

Adios.

Asmosaid:

You asked Ulysses a question and he answered it. Stale humour, he did not find it funny. Curiousity sated.

You escalated from there.

Perhaps offended was the wrong word, but you seem driven to prove that non feminists, particularly the male variant, seem to be colourblind to Schuler's humour, it's something they can't possibly find funny because their attitude or lack of understanding blocks out the spectrum where the funny wavelength is in this particular comedic light source. Basically any other reason than a good old fashioned, totally subjective "I didn't find that funny".

Asmosays...

He answered the question you asked, you just couldn't let go of your desire to make everyone think the same way as you. You did not accept his response and kept drilling for a deeper underlying cause.

I feel sorry for the feminists who know you, don't think Schumer is funny and are completely unaware they are about to be saturated with your "questions" aka badgering until everyone gives up and agrees with you just to shut you up... =)

As to why (or even whether) it's important to me, it's because you have every right to your opinion, but you've crossed over to telling people what their opinion is, and what it should be.

eg.

Recap of our convo:

You: I don't think she's funny.

Me: Wondering if this comedy is directed at you.

You: Nah, I don't think she is funny.

Me: I hear you. Let me tell you why I find her funny.

You: Nah, you're wrong, I don't think she is funny.

Your last response "should" have been -- Huh. So that is why you think she is funny. I still don't find her funny. Or maybe -- Huh. I don't want to think about it. Don't bother me with your opinion.


Ulysses never said that you were wrong, just that he disagreed with you. You're rewriting the conversation to justify the continuing role as a victim in all this. And also presuming that anyone actually cares why you think she's funny (you can have an opinion, as can anyone, but it's not a right to force it on others ; ).

We get it, you find her funny. I don't have a problem with that, you are not wrong or somehow deficient for enjoying humour that I do not. You finding her funny is not something I have a problem with. Your attitude to people who don't find her funny is. I hope this has clarified my position, but I sincerely doubt it'll make a difference... =D

Arrivederci!

bareboards2said:

My curiosity clearly wasn't sated, or I wouldn't have asked my question.

I am actually really intrigued by this, and plan on asking lots of people.

I know that there will probably be feminists who don't like her. I am really interested in engaging with them about what they don't like.

Why is this so important to you? Why do you need me to not ask my questions? Why the angry words being ascribed to me?

See? Now I have more questions. Wanna keep going?

I don't.

Adios.

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