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Obamanation lolz

Absolutely Amazing... Actors are the best people ever!

Damn I want to upvote that up the wazoo... That was a star studded, musically gifted, socially conscious, gay friendly, jesus toting piece of political brilliance that must be seen by everyone.

Everyone.

No, even you.

Yep, and your blind friend... must have corneal implants... or something...

too little TOO late. suckers.

^ Exactly.

Where were these people BEFORE the fucking vote?

Andrew Sullivan can try to pin this on the "black community" all he fucking wants, but none of these people lifted a finger to prevent this from passing.

Funny video tho! =]

>> ^joedirt:
too little TOO late. suckers.


Prop 8 passed by a much smaller margin than the last prop that tried to ban gay marriage. It is only a matter of time.

The issue is not whether or not homosexuality is right or wrong. The issue is, does a majority have the right restrict the rights and freedoms of a minority?

Any video where Neil Patrick Harris is the voice of reason is a good video.

Can you atheists really argue traditional society wasn't better off when we could stone our wives?

>> In reply to this comment by Xax:
The issue is not whether or not homosexuality is right or wrong. The issue is, does a majority have the right restrict the rights and freedoms of a minority?

!!!Exactly right!!!! So lets have the liberty of the minority (right to marry) override the liberty of all (right to vote and be counted)...wait a second...

>> ^chilaxe:
Can you atheists really argue traditional society wasn't better off when we could stone our wives?


^ Of course not, but it's all about giving gay folks the right to stone their spouses as well.

>> ^dbarry3:

!!!Exactly right!!!! So lets have the liberty of the minority (right to marry) override the liberty of all (right to vote and be counted)...wait a second...

I believe your being sarcastic which means you think "majority rules" is more important then "minority rights". If all that matters is "majority rules" then there is no need for a Bill of Rights is there? Majority wants to ban gun ownership...so be it. Majority wants to ban your religion...so be it. Majority wants to ban speech from your political views...so be it.

New World Order sure knows how to pay off people They are getting desperate.

Do we really need another comment thread about rights and majority versus minority? Can't we all just get along, sing a song, hit a bong, and smoke a schlong? Jesus Christ.

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>> ^dbarry3:
>!!!Exactly right!!!! So lets have the liberty of the minority (right to marry) override the liberty of all (right to vote and be counted)...wait a second...

I've never understood this argument. Allowing gays to marry doesn't encroach upon the rights of anyone else. Unless you consider it your right to force other people to live by your beliefs, which is arrogant and immoral. The argument about how gay marriage erodes traditional marriage is nonsensical bullshit, and everyone knows it, including the people who use it.

Good stuff.

Did anyone else notice that the guy in the smiley face shirt looked like Cam-Cam?

>> ^Xax:
>>^dbarry3:
>> In reply to this comment by Xax:
!!!Exactly right!!!! So lets have the liberty of the minority (right to marry) override the liberty of all (right to vote and be counted)...wait a second...

I've never understood this argument. Allowing gays to marry doesn't encroach upon the rights of anyone else. Unless you consider it your right to force other people to live by your beliefs, which is arrogant and immoral. The argument about how gay marriage erodes traditional marriage is nonsensical bullshit, and everyone knows it, including the people who use it.

You notice that they never try to abolish divorce? Wouldn't that "protect the sanctity of marriage" better than refusing to let gays marry?

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Leviticus is the reason that I became an atheist. Any religion that seriously claimed that shellfish were an abomination, bats were birds, mixed-fiber clothing was bad, and that gays should be stoned to death just didn't make sense.

I don't understand why marriage is any of the government's business in the first place. Seems pretty clear to me that the majority of people consider it a religious thing. Seems to me this is one area where we'd get along a lot better if the government would just butt out. Of course, that's true about a lot of things.

>> ^joedirt:
too little TOO late. suckers.


>> ^volumptuous:
^ Exactly.
Where were these people BEFORE the fucking vote?
Andrew Sullivan can try to pin this on the "black community" all he fucking wants, but none of these people lifted a finger to prevent this from passing.
Funny video tho! =]


How do YOU know they did nothing to stop Prop 8 prior to the election? Just because they didn't make this video before the election doesn't mean they ALL were doing nothing. Maybe some of them donated money and/or their time to Equality For All, the main group opposed to Prop 8. NoOnProp8 web site.

What did you two do? Did you donate anything to the No On Prop 8 campaign? I'll bet not. So easy to criticize while you're doing jackshit, isn't it?

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This is going off topic but Jesus-fuckstick-Christ...what is with the ads? It's bad enough they're showing up in video clips but now when you close them, they keep coming back?

If Jesus WERE real, he'd make those go away. But they continue to pop up, so therefore....

>> ^kronosposeidon:
How do YOU know they did nothing to stop Prop 8 prior to the election? Just because they didn't make this video before the election doesn't mean they ALL were doing nothing. Maybe some of them donated money and/or their time to Equality For All, the main group opposed to Prop 8. NoOnProp8 web site.
What did you two do? Did you donate anything to the No On Prop 8 campaign? I'll bet not. So easy to criticize while you're doing jackshit, isn't it?
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How do I know?

Because I live in California, am on nearly every one of these comedians email list and FB app, and there was not ONE commercial or letter-to-editor, blog or email from any of these people.

I followed prop8 very closely. Listening to the radio, following LA Times daily, etc. Hell, even Elton John didn't lift a finger, while Brad Pitt (not gay) donated $100,000.00.

And yes, I DID give money to the cause as well as protested. Is that "jack shit"?


[edit] ps KP - thanks for the downvote, for assuming that I'm a hypocrite. I didn't downvote you for unfairly attacking me over something you know nothing about. And I still won't, because downvoting a comment that you just disagree with is childish and petty.

^So YOU have a list of a every single donor to Equality For All? Right down to the $5 and $10 donors? And you know the names of every single person who performed in and produced this video, and you cross-checked the donor list with the cast and crew that produced this video? Really? Could you proivide us with this list? And you must also know how much of their free time each individual devoted to this cause? Geez, you must be like a spy or something to know so much.

Congratulations, you put your money where your mouth is. But you still don't have the right to castigate every single person involved in the production of this video when you don't know them all. THAT'S why I downvoted your comment. You paint with broad strokes by saying not one of them lifted a finger to do anything before the election, and you still can't prove that they ALL didn't. What if some of them set up and worked at information tables at malls or store fronts? What if some made phone calls? That counts too, doesn't it? Yet you say with certainty that every single person involved with this video did NOTHING.

Yeah, that deserves my downvote.

[edit] ps V - You're welcome.

I saw celebs in stupid "Don't Vote" PSAs. I don't think any of these celebs were out there for Prop 8 except maybe Margaret Cho.

The producer and writer of this skit agree with me on Too Little, Too Late.

Adam Shankman sheepishly and folksily admits he wrote "six weeks later than he shoulda."

Marc Shaiman -- "I only wish I'd written it 2 months ago. Damn,”

I just did a search on about half of the cast and crew (unlike joedirt and volumptuous) and found this much so far:


1. Written by Marc Shaiman. He gave a total of $1500 to oppose Prop 8:

http://www.sfgate.com/webdb/prop8/?appSession=33553200823611

2. Directed by Adam Shankman. He gave a total of $1000 to oppose Prop 8:

http://www.sfgate.com/webdb/prop8/?appSession=79353201509298

3. Margaret Cho acted in this. She gave $1000 to oppose Prop 8:

http://www.sfgate.com/webdb/prop8/?appSession=34153201867600

4. Neil (Patrick) Harris acted in this. He gave $2500 to oppose Prop 8.

http://www.sfgate.com/webdb/prop8/?appSession=45853204178262

5. Director of photography: Michael Barrett. He gave a total of $300 to oppose Prop 8

http://www.sfgate.com/webdb/prop8/?appSession=21053206117786


Five people alone in the cast and crew gave $6300 to oppose Prop 8. Wow.

What was that about "none of these people lifted a finger to prevent this from passing"?
Think before you slander.

>> ^kronosposeidon:
^So YOU have a list of a every single donor to Equality For All?
[edit] ps V - You're welcome.


Look maaaaaaan, "every single donor" to EFA didn't produce this video. It was Marc Shaiman, Will Ferrell, and Adam McKay (who own funnyordie). Jack Black and the others were called by them, and they agreed.

I wasn't "castigating" every lighting technician, grip and sound designer of this video, and either you know it and are just trying to 'win', or you don't and are making a fool of yourself.

Shaiman (who's idea this was, AFTER Nov 4th) has only contributed to this "protest" movement twice. Once in this video, and once to get Scott Eckern, the Artistic Director of the California Musical Theater (the state's biggest nonprofit musical theater company) fired.



So KP - I gave as much as most of these people, who are mostly obscenely wealthy. And I'm fucking skint. Wow, what heroes they are!!!

>> ^kronosposeidon:
Five people alone in the cast and crew gave $6300 to oppose Prop 8. Wow.
What was that about "none of these people lifted a finger to prevent this from passing"?
Think before you slander.



And Bradd Pitt gave $100K, but noone went around crying for joy over that.

HAHAHA.. I gave as much as Margaret Cho, and I'm straight!

^HA! That's just the response I was looking for!

First you say "none of these people lifted a finger." Now that you're confronted with your falsehood, you move the target by saying that your contribution means more than theirs. Awesome!

Go ahead, keep on moving that target.

It was going great until the broken window fallacy at 2:00. Not that I expect serious economic analysis from this, but the disregard for opportunity costs is silly. Besides, the economic impact of gay marriage makes no difference whatsoever on the question of whether it should be legal. http://www.videosift.com/video/Barney-Frank-defends-individual-freedom

So the economic portion of this was both wrong and irrelevant.
http://www.bartleby.com/130/4.html

>> ^nadabu:
I don't understand why marriage is any of the government's business in the first place. Seems pretty clear to me that the majority of people consider it a religious thing. Seems to me this is one area where we'd get along a lot better if the government would just butt out. Of course, that's true about a lot of things.

Being non religious and married I have to disagree with your assertion that marriage is a "religious thing" It means different things to different couples depending on the culture they belong to and their world views.

Marriage has a set of legal rights attatched to it. It's not the place of a secular government to deny these rights to certain adults based on the practices of a religion.

>> ^jwray:
It was going great until the broken window fallacy at 2:00. Not that I expect serious economic analysis from this, but the disregard for opportunity costs is silly.

Not sure I follow you...just because they make the argument that there is "money to be made" does not automatically make it a "broken window fallacy". The fallacy is that everyone ignores the cost to the shopkeeper. There is no cost being ignored here other then what married gays are "willing" to spend on themselves.

Do it like they do in Europe:

1. Marriage is a private ceremony, not regulated or recognized by the government.
2. A civil union is a government-granted status that confers certain privileges regarding inheritance, visitation, etc. There are no restrictions except age or mental competence about who can enter into a civil union.

You can get one, or the other, or both. The government is only involved in civil unions. The government has no business regulating religious ceremonies, and religious dogma about who ought to marry whom has no business influencing governmentally conferred privileges.

This is the way to ensure separation of church and state, and satisfaction of all involved parties, except the truly fascist social conservatives.

I gave 4000 dollars to CureHerpes.com, but I'm still itching. That's the last time I have a sleepover at Andy Dick's house.

>> ^jwray:
Do it like they do in Europe:
1. Marriage is a private ceremony, not regulated or recognized by the government.
2. A civil union is a government-granted status that confers certain privileges regarding inheritance, visitation, etc. There are no restrictions except age or mental competence about who can enter into a civil union.
You can get one, or the other, or both. The government is only involved in civil unions. The government has no business regulating religious ceremonies, and religious dogma about who ought to marry whom has no business influencing governmentally conferred privileges.
This is the way to ensure separation of church and state, and satisfaction of all involved parties, except the truly fascist social conservatives.


Those damn Europeans always showing off, with their free health care, their mass transit, and now this. I'm starting to wonder if they're just more evolved.

>> ^HollywoodBob:
Those damn Europeans always showing off, with their free health care, their mass transit, and now this. I'm starting to wonder if they're just more evolved.

Don't forget their topless beach's.

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