Hurray for the war on an abstract concept!


edit: Also, it seemed like people in the crowd were chanting "USA". Makes me want to move to Canada.

But as Darrell Worley asked, "Have you forgotten?"

They took all the footage off my T.V.
Said it's too disturbing for you and me
It'll just breed anger that's what the experts say
If it was up to me I'd show it everyday
Some say this country's just out looking for a fight
Well, after 9/11 man I'd have to say that's right

That truly is the lowest of tactics for trying to gather votes... truly pathetic.

And SO MANY PEOPLE WILL BUY IT.

It sickens me that so many people are such mindless puppets that they can be so easily maneuvered using such BLATENT bullshit as this, I mean, completely and utterly avoiding REAL issues, and pretending that everyone will be enslaved or killed if you don't vote for McCain, well, that's a big f*cking load of *lies right there.

Disgusting.

Really... disgusting.

Adding video to channels (Lies) - requested by spoco2.

>> ^anyprophet:
Also, it seemed like people in the crowd were chanting "USA". Makes me want to move to Canada.


I've been hearing a lot of that lately.

It's never a good sign when people want to leave a place.

The whole 2004 Republican Convention revolved around 911. It was as painful to watch as Election Day results.

What a room full of moral cowards.

^ Except for the two protesters who were still lying in wait at the time.

Today's secret word: exploitation. Disgusting.

For some reason while watching this video the images of Bush stating that he saw the 1st plane crash on closed circuit tv and then when the 2nd plane hit the secret service agent came in and told him another plane had struck.

Then remembering all the quick knee-jerk responses to this of how utterly stupid Bush is and he made a mistake (yet Bush never changed his story.. in fact he told the same exact story again to another interview).

The Repubs need to evoke the state of fear and misery and suffering so that they can offer their party as a the cure for the dis-ease that they CAUSED. It's a simple bait-and-switch -- and most of America falls for it EVERY TIME.

I dont think I've seen any propaganda as simplistic and exploitative dated later than 1936. In Germany. Congratulations GOP, a new low.

Oceana has always been at war with Eurasia

Well, this kind of fear-mongering works, apparently. I have a few friends who are very pro-bush/Mccain. One of them even insists that he's seen the projections that once we pull out of Iraq, extremists will conquer europe first, before coming after us on our own continent. It's not the ludicrousness of the story that makes it so scary, but the utter conviction he says it with. The world's a scary place, full of people that hate us, and only the Republican party stands between us and them.

Tools all, the media outlets available for consumption....Wake up faster, program your own programs....

Heh...

When I see that footage I see bush's shortcomings as a leader. Failure to act on the intelligence that stated some one some where was going to attack.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/911timeline/main/foreignwarnings.html

Smokinggun.com also has the memo that says attack imminent.

It no longer bothers me to see the footage of 911, because I know that it could have been stopped by proactive actions, but was not.

They let it happen, simple and clean. And we still do not know exactly who did it, all we have is to take the word of the administration that failed us.

What a load of shit that tribute video is. Propaganda through and through. America, you should rightfully be ashamed of yourself.

Wow, when I see something like that it makes me glad I do live in Canada. That type of fear-mongering makes me sick to my stomach.

Olbermann is the finest actor on cable tv, his performance here is drama that's Emmy worthy.

I respect Olbermann even more greatly after that one. Well put. That was wholly inappropriate to show at the RNC. The Repubs conveniently evoke 9/11 and garner support/votes through fear mongering. Though repugnant, it does garner votes. Ironically those votes are mostly from the heartland. Places which are most unlikely to be targeted by any terrorist attack.

Reminds me of the Family Guy episode when Lois was running for office. She discovered that simply saying 911 whipped the sheeople into a frenzy and used it over and over again to win the election.

When I saw this last night I was both amused and sickened they would stoop this low. It just goes to show how desperate they really are to win this election. Even the CNN announcers were upset they pulled this shit.

I can't remember the voice over guy. He's a b movie actor that looks a lot like Edward James Almos. Plays bad cops too.

>> ^anyprophet:
Hurray for the war on an abstract concept!

edit: Also, it seemed like people in the crowd were chanting "USA". Makes me want to move to Canada.


The video was sickening.

Every person in the world can wave flags and cheer on their own nations. Just don't do it in America.

Please don't leave. I will miss you.

I don't know about the rest of you but I think this is fucking *terrible to say the least

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I barfed

I don't know why, but I just can't take Olbermann seriously- he seems so 'fake' to me.

Kind of like his anger and rage come out of a microwave.

*edit (not to say that his twisted twin O'Reilly is any better)

Did this clip remind anyone else of the intro to 'Voltron'?.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9C2YLVaSBw

You can basically replace the word 'Voltron' with 'McCain' ... same superhero, fear-sploitation idea.

Olbermann is an egotist who thinks he's the next Ed Murrow, but he's the only major person on television who's saying what's needs to be said.

Very interesting Freudian slip: "And we will never let it happen again." So they are admitting they let it happen the first time?? Stop the presses! The Republicans finally confess to complicity in 9/11.

Hmmm . . . what are the chances that, if it's looking bad for McCain in mid October, that somehow we get attacked again?

Wait, McCain knows how to win the war on terror? Why hasn't he told anyone? Here I thought a war on a tactic or concept was impossible to win! He sounds smart, we'd better elect that guy.

Was anyone else reminded of the movie Idiocracy while watching that? The simplified language horrified me - it wasn't all that far off from "bad people hurt us. Make us sad. They like wrong god. McCain know how to make them stop. He nice man! "

Downvote was for Daryl Worrley, not kp.

Whenever I hear the phrase:
"America's security is at stake,"
I know that whoever says it is trying to force me, through fear, to believe whatever they say.
This is wrong. This is all wrong.

Also, I thought it was dreadfully Orwellian when, right after the exploitative video ended, the first thing it cut to was a huge, waving, American flag.

That should be illegal.

aaaaand.... now we're exploiting dead people for starpoints and comment votes

Hitler would be proud

By any chance was the title of that video "Triumph of the Will" ?

Interesting article that mentions this clip: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/08/business/media/08msnbc.html?_r=2&hp=&oref=slogin&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin

>> ^grevs:
Interesting article that mentions this clip: http://www.nyti
mes.com/2008/09/08/business/media/08msnbc.html?_r=2&hp=&oref=slogin&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin


That's a shame, but yeah, the convention coverage team on MSNBC, particularly during the DNC convention, was shamefully unprofessional.

This moment with Olbermann, though, was perfectly in-line, and it's kinda shameful the author lumped this and those other moments together.

So when did Olbermann leave ESPN and stop making those funny Sportscenter commercials? Now THAT was good TV. Oh yeah, if I see one more fearmonger-inspired Jihadist beheading video on the sift here I'm going to become sickened and outraged.

>> ^Raverman:
Hitler would be proud


I think Joseph Goebbels, the masterful propaganda minister, and Hermann Goering, Hilter's designated successor, would be proud also.


“The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth becomes the greatest enemy of the State.”
- Joseph Goebbels


“Why of course the people don’t want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally, the common people don’t want war: neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But after all it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship…Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger.”
- Hermann Goering

End of propaganda video at 2:45. For those that don't want to watch that crap.

I agree completely Curiousity.... that was disgracefull...