The implication Newt is that you are not "decent" enough to run for president.

The only thing that is despicable is that Gingrich is trying to take the moral high ground.

We know who you are Newt.

When ever I encounter southern conservatives, I feel like I'm observing some kind of pre-human transitional species. Yes, that is harsh.

A Republican isn't perfect? SOUND THE ALARM. Suddenly it's time for liberals to pretend to have ethics and morals again! Remember that sociopathic adulterer elected to the White House in the 90s with that whole 'Suck this or lose your job' thing in his past? Yeah, me neither.

the difference is republicans act like the owners and defenders of moral integrity. They are not. In fact, they are the opposite.

>> ^quantumushroom:

Remember that sociopathic adulterer elected to the White House in the 90s with that whole 'Suck this or lose your job' thing in his past? Yeah, me neither.


Nope, sure don't. I do remember a guy who had an affair and got impeached for it though. By hypocritical Republicans like Mr. NEWT here.

His ex-wife spoke out about this because she wanted people to know that he is not morally sound to be president. This isn't some smear campaign by CNN and ABC. This is one woman with an opinion.

An opinion I completely agree with.

Spare me Newt. I am appalled that you would treat your wives in such a manner. If you treat the women you supposedly love in such a way how in the hell is anyone beyond the obviously brainwashed blind fools you've conned supposed to trust you with the entire country? This man is a pathetic lying politicians politician and the fact that he is in any way still around and relevant is the greatest sign of whats wrong with politics in this country than anything I can come up with.

I had to read the entire Starr Report - yes, all of it (for a class) - and nowhere is it remotely suggested that Lewinsky was coerced into doing what she did (emphasis in your quote below). In fact, quite the opposite: she had very strong feelings for Clinton, who reciprocated much of them.

But that minor detail aside, it sounds like you and I are in agreement on the point of marital infidelity not outright disqualifying someone for the office of the Presidency. Since you're giving Newt a free pass on his moral/ethical scorecard, you must have similarly given Clinton a free pass during the scandal and believed he should have never been impeached in the first place. After all, any other position would just be a double standard, no?

>> ^quantumushroom:

A Republican isn't perfect? SOUND THE ALARM. Suddenly it's time for liberals to pretend to have ethics and morals again! Remember that sociopathic adulterer elected to the White House in the 90s with that whole 'Suck this or lose your job' thing in his past? Yeah, me neither.

On the plus side, a Gingrich presidency would send an inspiring message to arrogant and unlikable boys and girls everywhere.

How very French of you Mr. Gingrich

Even as a liberal I have always admired Newt. He would be a very interesting, possibly good, president.

>> ^HaricotVert:

I had to read the entire Starr Report - yes, all of it (for a class) - and nowhere is it remotely suggested that Lewinsky was coerced into doing what she did (emphasis in your quote below). In fact, quite the opposite: she had very strong feelings for Clinton, who reciprocated much of them.
But that minor detail aside, it sounds like you and I are in agreement on the point of marital infidelity not outright disqualifying someone for the office of the Presidency. Since you're giving Newt a free pass on his moral/ethical scorecard, you must have similarly given Clinton a free pass during the scandal and believed he should have never been impeached in the first place. After all, any other position would just be a double standard, no?
>> ^quantumushroom:
A Republican isn't perfect? SOUND THE ALARM. Suddenly it's time for liberals to pretend to have ethics and morals again! Remember that sociopathic adulterer elected to the White House in the 90s with that whole 'Suck this or lose your job' thing in his past? Yeah, me neither.



marital infidelity is one thing, it's the way in which Newt handled and participated in it that I find reprehensible. Clinton got his dick sucked and lied about it (and more importantly actually went to court about it even if he did get off. no pun intended) and Newt has treated his wives as if they were little more than cars he kept trading off for a newer model after test driving the new one for a while on lease.

I still think this question is fair game, but if it was the opening question...that is pretty disgusting. More over, it isn't really an issue for a debate, who is going to debate him on something like that? That is the type of question you discuss in a one on one interview. I haven't watched this debate yet, I have watched the other ones, in full (my brain is bleeding from all the stupid). They usually do start the processes out with something that happened recently that is topical, but this is more personally than political.

That being said, Newt looks and feels the part of a scoundrel, my sympathy glads are churning up to much tear juice for him.

They need some candidates who come from backgrounds that most US people have the potential to live. Old money, 1% or even top 10% candidates time and time again is not representative of the country.

Hell our judges, congress people, and most of our governors and mayors are not even representative of the people electing them. They pretend they are, and want you to believe you could be them.......but cmon. Look at your neighbors and relatives....see if you think any of them could have gotten anywhere in the current political environment..even locally. Then keep stepping it up.

You have to be part snake to be a politician anymore. Deception has to be second nature.

I mean I know stuff gets dug up, but their reactions and defense of stuff is just....alien.

As much as republicans in the south clearly love this guy, the folks behind the scene who run the party know Gingritch could never hope to win against Obama. It's why the vast majority of their money is going to the moderate, Romney.

Some liberals have ethics and morals, as do some conservatives. Some liberals don't, just like some conservatives. To say otherwise is truly despicable.

QM, what a horrible, crappy thing to say. Your political views do not define how good a person you are. I've seen some pretty awful things said on this site, a lot of it by you, but that's one of the most appalling.

>> ^quantumushroom:

Suddenly it's time for liberals to pretend to have ethics and morals again!

I think that whole thing was a witch hunt against Clinton, too, but facts are facts. He didn't get impeached for having an affair. He got impeached for perjury. I'm sorry, but Clinton broke the law, and a case can be made for impeachment for it. You can't just lie under oath as President of the United States. As much as I liked Clinton's policies, that's a horrible precedent.

>> ^Duckman33:

>> ^quantumushroom:
Remember that sociopathic adulterer elected to the White House in the 90s with that whole 'Suck this or lose your job' thing in his past? Yeah, me neither.

Nope, sure don't. I do remember a guy who had an affair and got impeached for it though. By hypocritical Republicans like Mr. NEWT here.

>> ^zor:

Even as a liberal I have always admired Newt. He would be a very interesting, possibly good, president.


WOW you are a stupid mother fucker.

Newt Gingrich is a man who cannot control his appetites. And now he has an appetite for power.

This would not be much of an improvement over the current narcissist-in-chief.

It's all sort of fair enough until the end. What's this 'elite media protecting Barrack Obama by attacking republicans' nonsense. I think he could legitimately claim no comment since it isn't our business, but he took the righteous indignation way too far.

That was close: I nearly had to respect something Newt Gingrich said.

>> ^heropsycho:

I think that whole thing was a witch hunt against Clinton, too, but facts are facts. He didn't get impeached for having an affair. He got impeached for perjury. I'm sorry, but Clinton broke the law, and a case can be made for impeachment for it. You can't just lie under oath as President of the United States. As much as I liked Clinton's policies, that's a horrible precedent.
>> ^Duckman33:
>> ^quantumushroom:
Remember that sociopathic adulterer elected to the White House in the 90s with that whole 'Suck this or lose your job' thing in his past? Yeah, me neither.

Nope, sure don't. I do remember a guy who had an affair and got impeached for it though. By hypocritical Republicans like Mr. NEWT here.



My facts are just as accurate as his were.

When Anthony Weiner puts his weiner on Twitter he gets forced to resign, when Newt Gingrich sticks it in a woman while being married, conservatives want him for president. Democrats shoot themselves in the foot, while Republicans forget their morality just to win.

What's that, Newt? Character doesn't matter when you're running for President of the United States? How silly of me to think otherwise.

I'll admit it was a strong response, and from a PR standpoint was probably the best he could do given the circumstances.

Paragons of virtue like...Ted Kennedy.

>> ^EMPIRE:

the difference is republicans act like the owners and defenders of moral integrity. They are not. In fact, they are the opposite.

Was Ted Kennedy a staunch supporter of "family values" and "family this" and "family that" and "morality", etc?
So you're saying acting like a person on a fucking pedestal telling others what to do or think in their lives, and then acting a lot worse than them is somehow acceptable?

>> ^quantumushroom:

Paragons of virtue like...Ted Kennedy.
>> ^EMPIRE:
the difference is republicans act like the owners and defenders of moral integrity. They are not. In fact, they are the opposite.

I had to read the entire Starr Report - yes, all of it (for a class) - and nowhere is it remotely suggested that Lewinsky was coerced into doing what she did (emphasis in your quote below). In fact, quite the opposite: she had very strong feelings for Clinton, who reciprocated much of them.

>>> I could've saved you the trouble. Just google Paula Jones and follow the trail backwards. BTW, no one here has much to say about how Slick Willie used and tossed Monica. You almost can't fault him, like all textbook sociopaths he has no depth, no real emotions. "I feel your pain." Ha ha ha ha.

But that minor detail aside, it sounds like you and I are in agreement on the point of marital infidelity not outright disqualifying someone for the office of the Presidency.

>>> Even if a President had a spouse who approved of open marriage, they'd be out on their asses. That's just the way the American people are, and vote. Marital infidelity the American people will not abide. Historically speaking, there is no evidence that being a philanderer affects political performance. In other words, when the red chinese stole our missile guidance technology during Clintoon's watch, putting the entire nation in further danger, that had nothing to do with whether he visited Monica that week. That was just being a POS excuse of a president.

>>> Bozo was impeached--and fined $90,000-for lying under oath. If you or I did it we'd still be in prison. He should've stepped down.

>>> Considering the Republic is hanging by a thread with a narcissistic marxist presently at the helm--and a false media which defends, protects and shills for him--the people are ready for someone who will get the job done. It might be Newt, it might be Romney, it might be a talking Chia Pet, but we DO know it ain't gonna be His Earness, unless you've enjoyed the chaos of the last 4 years.