Mandatory minimum sentencing in the land of the free.

*fear the oppressive state.

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Wow..."sexual harassment" just got bumped up to life in prison?! Awesome.

This is wrong. Wrong, wrong, wrong. Just wrong. *quality post, MrFisk.

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Wrong. But what the hell is the judge doing? Sounds like he's digging through a box of cookies.

Also, I would want that lawyer as my public defender any day.

Jury nullification. Jury nullification. Jury nullification.

Gotta love the judge's response:

"I don't know... Make sure we get that $25 administrative fee... I don't know... Don't know why I have to do these things they call trials... Seems like the justice system is pretty fucked, but what are you going to do about it? Hell, I'm just a judge. Good luck... Oh, and life in prison."

>> ^Kevlar:

Jury nullification. Jury nullification. Jury nullification.

You're singing my song.

She shouldn't have started crying. Judges don't go for feelings, they go for argument.

Obviously, it's an egregious miscarriage of justice and it should obviously have been reduced - I mean, this is not forced sex... it's touching a breast. Grow the fuck up, America.

Jesus Christ...does Canada have anything like that?

From Wikipedia:
Nevada has been ranked as the most dangerous state in the U.S. for five years in a row, just ahead of Louisiana[27][28] In 2006, the crime rate in Nevada was approximately 24% higher than the national average rate. Property crimes accounted for approximately 84.6% of the crime rate in Nevada which was 21% higher than the national rate. The remaining 20.3% were violent crimes and were approximately 45% higher than other states.[29] In 2008, Nevada had the third highest murder rate, and the highest rate of robbery and motor vehicle theft.[27] It should be noted that many of these statistics may not totally be attributed to the citizens of Nevada themselves, but partially to the high rate of visitors entering and leaving the state as well. In addition, the state's most populous county, Clark (accounting for 75% of the state's total population), skews the crime rate for the balance of the state.



...and people wonder why I want to get out of this shithole.

That's a pretty draconian law they have there in Nevada.

Time to get outta this country! That was insane. Whats the point of that judge... aaah my brain can't handle this crap

wtf with the crying lawyer?

She got sentenced for life because she refused to have her name on the sex offenders list. Basically, it's her own fault.

"wtf with the crying lawyer?"

Good reason why women can't be lawyers.

I think her problem is that her lawyer has Marilyn Manson make-up.

OK downvote my comment UP, but it doesn't make that lawyer look any more professional, I'd hold her contempt for that

Catholics are in trouble...

You know why the lawyer is crying; because the judge doesn't give a shit. The whole tone of that court is bullshit.

Now I'm going to use ad homimen against the quoted person below. Do you dislike the constitution; your comment would seem to put you in that category. This case is clear cut, the Judicial Branch in Nevada does not have the power to call that law what it is; bullshit. The balance of powers is not working, and it is clear in the judge’s tone of voice; "I wash my hands of this."

Read the 8th amendment.

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

In January 1952 Turing picked up 19-year-old Arnold Murray outside a cinema in Manchester. After a lunch date, Turing invited Murray to spend the weekend with him at his house, an invitation which Murray accepted although he did not show up. The pair met again in Manchester the following Monday, when Murray agreed to accompany Turing to the latter's house. A few weeks later Murray visited Turing's house again, and apparently spent the night there.[38]

After Murray helped an accomplice to break into his house, Turing reported the crime to the police. During the investigation, Turing acknowledged a sexual relationship with Murray. Homosexual acts were illegal in the United Kingdom at that time,[6] and so both were charged with gross indecency under Section 11 of the Criminal Law Amendment Act 1885, the same crime that Oscar Wilde had been convicted of more than fifty years earlier.[39]

Turing was given a choice between imprisonment and probation conditional on his agreement to undergo hormonal treatment designed to reduce libido. He accepted chemical castration via oestrogen hormone injections.[40] A side effect of the treatment caused him to grow breasts.

Turing's conviction led to the removal of his security clearance, and barred him from continuing with his cryptographic consultancy for GCHQ. At the time, there was acute public anxiety about spies and homosexual entrapment by Soviet agents,[41] because of the recent exposure of the first two members of the Cambridge Five, Guy Burgess and Donald Maclean, as KGB double agents. Turing was never accused of espionage but, as with all who had worked at Bletchley Park, was prevented from discussing his war work.[42]

>> ^deathcow:

OK downvote my comment UP, but it doesn't make that lawyer look any more professional, I'd hold her contempt for that


The Lawyer did not, at any point, disobey or disrespect the court's authority. I assume that is why you are not a Judge.

It is formal for the judge to call the court to order before issuing the threat of contempt, and sanction. The lawyer was giving her final statement, at which point she realized the futility of the situation.

Contempt of court is a court order which, in the context of a court trial or hearing, declares a person or organization to have disobeyed or been disrespectful of the court's authority. Often referred to simply as "contempt", such as a person "held in contempt", it is the judge's strongest power to impose sanctions for acts which disrupt the court's normal process.

How much time should I get when I put your 13 year old daughter's hand on my junk and tell her to fuck me?

But seriously, 10 years is a crazy sentence, look at all those priest who had WAY more power over kids and got WAY more action. And it would be really funny if that same 13 year old killed someone and was charged as an adult and got life in prison as well.

I thought the only reason they give out this sentence to a female under this law, is because the male minor in cases like this usually end up dying from excessive high-fiving.

> I would hope the people would rise up and throw you out of a window.

I will then hold them all in contempt, Nordlich

"You know why the lawyer is crying; because the judge doesn't give a shit. The whole tone of that court is bullshit. "
It doesn't matter why she is crying. If you are a lawyer, you should behave like one. I should know, I am one.

"Your way of thinking is outdated, outmaneuvered and better suited for the middle ages; also misogyny doesn't suit you. "

Sure, internet white knight, hope maybe some lady will read your text and will become more bangable...pathetic.

Actually, I think misogyny suits him to a T.

>> ^NordlichReiter:
Your way of thinking is outdated, outmaneuvered and better suited for the middle ages; also misogyny doesn't suit you.
>> ^fjules:
She got sentenced for life because she refused to have her name on the sex offenders list. Basically, it's her own fault.
"wtf with the crying lawyer?"
Good reason why women can't be lawyers.

i've been in nevada courts before (visiting, not in an orange suit), and that was pretty typical.

seriously, boo fucking hoo, oops - WRONG CAREER

Wow... Just fucking wow...


A few points:

The video's description incorrectly notes the date. An extremely minor point, but a factual one nonetheless.

I fully believe that this sentence is, as the defense attorney alluded to, a complete miscarriage of justice. I fully believe that the defendant should have been offered a plea deal. Like the judge, I can not understand why plea deals are offered to some but not others. In this case, it certainly seems warranted.

Someone mentioned that the judge doesn't give a shit, but I wouldn't expect the judge to give a shit. The judge is on the bench to act as an impartial mediator between the prosecution, defense and presumably impartial jury. The judge may very well feel for this defendant, as well as others he has had to impose similar sentences upon. It would not surprise me if this judge (as well as others in the state of Nevada) undergo some form of therapy, be it expensive psychiatry or heavy drinking or primal screaming. I feel for the judge who imposes such an unwarranted sentence and is not left with a scar upon their psyche.

For those America-bashers that are going to use this as another example of how fucked-up the United States of America is (and have attempted already), I say this:
Nevada is just one state out of fifty that comprise this nation.
The United States Constitution grants rights and powers to the individual states in matters where the values and moral compass differs from region to region due to differences in background, ethnicity and national origin.
Nevada was originally settled by Mormons, which are a somewhat extreme sect of Christianity. Some believe the Mormon church to be a cult. It is widely known that the church was founded by a person with a criminal background and that the church as a whole engages in some suspect practices.
That said, Mormons chose to impose their morality upon others within the states they helped found, specifically Utah and Nevada, but also other states to a lesser extent.

The moral standards of Mormons are not considered by sensible-thinking people as reasonable. However, it is also the basis for the laws of the state of Nevada, like it or not. The law and its associated sentences has been challenged for constitutionality and the challenge has failed. I suspect the failure of previous challenges is running up against the same old Mormon guard that still pervades the state legislature, but I have no evidence of this.
Regardless, the draconian punishment that is set in law in the state of Nevada is one glaring (and pretty fucked-up) example of how one group's morality is imposed on those around them through legislative process.
Good or bad, it is how our system of government works.

Welcome to the Republic.



Yes, I wholly get the irony of Mormons imposing a life sentence for this sort of sexual misconduct while they turn a blind eye to polygamy and incestual relations.
However, that is not the subject of this debate, however poignant that irony may be.

Not even worth it. Trolls will troll.

But think about the suffering of that poor 13-year-old boy... His palms are probably going to be swollen and red for the rest of his life from all the high fives.



In all seriousness, I wonder... If it was an old man who forced a young girl to touch his stuff and attempted to get some intercourse off of her, would people still be so offended by the sentence?

Did she really get the sentence for refusing to be listed as a sex offender? If so, it sounds like she chose the rock rather than the hard place.

Guys! This is serious stuff! We need to track down this kid... and give him the "luckiest boy in america" medal.

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