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Self promoting this video and sending it back into the queue for one more try; last queued Friday, April 4th, 2014 8:21pm PDT - promote requested by original submitter eric3579.

Tags for this video have been changed from 'vlog brothers, jail, prison' to 'vlog brothers, jail, prison, hank green' - edited by brycewi19

Jesus Christ, America, this spooks me.

41% of juveniles before they turn 23 will have been arrested.

That blew me away.

And another sad thing is that a lot of people will just dismiss these problems as "liberal bullshit".

It's weird to think that we spend 100k a year incarcerating someone who may have started a life of crime because they were poor. We could have given them 100k a year and the may have remained a productive, free and law abiding citizen, either way it's a 100k a year so which sounds better?

Awful lot of white folks in their prison lineup. Doesn't seem accurate.

Hank and John have an immense influence to educate via the internet. It always makes me glad to see them tackle the big issues. (See Hanks video on climate change)
Unfortunately, these big problems are real and are big and that makes me sad.
Keep up the good work Brothers Vlog.

Sorry to comment to the uniformed rather harshly, but you may want to get a WORLD clue .White, black, (insert color here), cops are the strong-arm of dicks destined to cause your personal world problems, and they're being bred with control in mind and the ranks of skank are taking applications for dumb-asses everywhere who wanna join the home team, Baybylon.

It's nice to know that this is becoming common knowledge.

Personally I'd like to know more about the stat where it says we have 25% of the worlds incarcerated people.

Not saying our justice system is the best but considering how much worse it is/can get I don't think it's a fair statistic. To show how we have a problem.

It can be different. Look at the prison system in scandinavian countries.

http://theconversation.com/nordic-prisons-less-crowded-less-punitive-better-staffed-12885

Rambling must be fun.

Your wrong @eric3579. There is no protection for the wealthy--it only looks good to them but everyone is less safe for these policies.

But I must correct one injustice (among a few others) that John was wrong on. Most, and by most I mean most, solitary confinement of inmates does have both appeals policies inside the jail/prison and Judaical recourse. It is not foolproof, but lawsuits have vindicated many people. As such, this forced policies in place when confining an inmate.

Not to mention that many prisoners are mentally unstable as is--just like many homeless are. I am not saying to punish them. The medications they receive in prisons and in jails really are helpful in keeping them functioning in general population these days and should be the first reliance. They really do go above and beyond in many jails/prisons. However, someone who would rip out his own eyeball or shove a pencil up his penis, someone known to be violent, or even those severely handicapped and who would be abused, they must be protected. This guy doesn't point out this--instead it's generalized as ALL torture.

Imagine your son being raped in prison violently by someone with mental illness, just because he couldn't be justified as a danger for his entire stay... Happens every day, and so do the lawsuits. It's an impossible balance really.

And indefinite is a misnomer. 30 days is a common number of maximum days a person can be held in solitary for disciplinary infractions. While this doesn't seem like a lot of time, I understand it's a LIFETIME to spend alone in a room that is abysmal. However, it is definitely not indefinite.

Additionally, the total ratio of inmates incarcerated in general population versus is about 5%. That's pretty small considering the totality of circumstances and general population inmates whose crimes are serious in nature.

As someone who has studied this issue indepth for the last 7-8 years I can say the jail/prison system is a failure on multiple aspects. It causes more crime. It hurts people who would be better served elsewhere. It is racially biased. In most cases there is no way out. However, in the dawning of the age of cameras, much has changed for the better. The fact that guards are charged with crimes for obvious abuse is one. The fact that solitary confinement is now working well is another. Prison populations are expanding less and less.

We should expand upon the good, instead of focus on the bad.

Not sure what you're referring to or how it has anything to do with me.

Unfortunately "arrested" affects you almost as much as "convicted".

Eg. The police automatically notify your employer when you are arrested.
It's a common story where someone is let out soon after their arrest, then shows up at work only to find out they're no longer employed.

I was surprised that they left out the overall figure of 1 in 18 men in the U.S. is in jail / parole / being processed / in the system, whatever.

Also, roughly half of people in jail are in for a victimless crime.

Keep in mind that there are ~5000 federal laws, plus a wad of state laws (per state), county laws, city laws, etc.
Practically all laws are limits on behavior, and they do not involve any victims.

An exhaustive inventory of any given person's daily routine turns up multiple offenses per day. Everyone is guilty. Anyone can go to jail.

-scheherazade

WTF? The police notify your employer on ARREST? How is that even legal?

Yet another reason I'm glad I don't live in the US

Yeah, it's seriously fucked and the worst part?? Dipshits without a clue as to how the system is so seriously fucked still think they're living somewhere where 'change' can happen by casting a vote for shills on leashes held by enemies of humanity and the planet itself. EIA baby, douche or turd.

I try to keep it light considering the smug kind of retort to be expected from the willfully clueless. Yeah lawdeedaw, Dorothy ain't even near Kansas anymore and it's folks who could give a fuck about humanity letting the place go to police-state shit.

Or it's the balanced ones who realize it is better to help a system than to be a part of the problem, on either side. Your fine to have your beliefs, but you win nothing.

I really wish police were not even needed. But then we would be Afghanistan or some African country. We must understand that the base human condition is evil, vile, raping, murdering, and that laws, ie., the enforcement of laws, ie., law enforcement, would best be served balancing those impulses out.

Yeah, it is wrong. But the people demanded it and the people got it (Ie., corporations with the consent of regular folks.)

I guess there is a thinly veiled point in the policies defense, and the defense doesn't amount to shit. How dare a criminal work for me when there is liability to myself or customers! Yeah...

You were saying "and promotes the security of the few at the expense of the many."

I disagree. I think this policy makes everyone, even the "few", less safe...

Ok now i see...from the video description. Sorry, probably didn't make it clear that its the description directly taken from YouTube. Anyway thanks for chiming in. It's always good to get multiple viewpoints.