Man who was sexually abused by catholic priests speaks out

Victim of sexual abuse owns the panel, by shockingly conveying his misery and anger at the people who should be sensibly dealing with the situation.
demon_ixsays...

You can upvote your own sifts, just so you know

Very powerful video of someone sharing a horrible account of his own experiences.

Needs more channels though. Not sure Lies applies (since no one actually lies in the video), but definitely British, Dark, Religion and Law.

deputydogsays...

shame we couldn't see the panel's response, if there was one.

transcript (from here)...

Start of transcript

Mr. Chairman, I’m surprised at the minister there now.

First of all Mr Minister (directed at Minister Noel Dempsey) you made a bags of it in the beginning by changing the judges. You made a complete bags of it at that time, because I went to the La Foy commission and ye had seven barristers there, questioning me and telling that I was telling lies, when I told them that I got raped of a Saturday, got a merciful beating after it, and then stuffed…

… he came along the following morning and put holy communion in my mouth.

You don’t know what happened there. You haven’t the foggiest, you’re talking through your hat there. And you’re talking to a Fianna Fáil man, a former councilor and former mayor you’re talking to, that worked tooth and nail or you, for the party that you’re talking about now. Ye didn’t do it right, ye got it wrong.

Admit it.

And apologize for doing that. Because you don’t know what I feel inside me. You don’t know the hurt I am.

You said it was non-adversarial.

My God.

Seven barristers.

Throwing questions at us.

Non-stop.

I tri.. attempted to commit suicide, there’s the woman who saved me from committing suicide, on me way down from Dublin, after spending five days at the commission. Five days I spent at the commission. They brought a man over from Rome, ninety odd years of age, to tell me I was telling lies.

That I wasn’t beaten for an hour, non-stop by two of them.

By two of them.

Non-stop from head to toe without a shred of cloth on my body.

My God minister.

And could I speak to you (comment directed to Leo Varadkar, Fianna Gael), and ask your leader, would you stop making a political football of this.

You hurt this when you do that.

You tear the shreds from inside our body.

For God’s sake, try and give us some peace.

Try to give us some peace and not to continue hurting us.

That woman will tell you how many times I jump out of the bed at night with the sweat pumping out of me. Because I see these fellas at the end of the bed with their fingers doing that (gestures) to me. And pulling me in to the room, to rape me, to bugger me and bate the shite out of me. That’s the way it is.

And you know what?

You know what, sometimes I listen to the leader of Fianna Fáil. I even listened to the apology. T’was mealy mouthed, but at least t’was an apology.

At least t’was an apology.

The Rosminians said in the report, they said they were easy on us. The first day I went to them. The first day to Rosminians in my home which is Ferryhouse in Clonmel, ’cause its the only home I know. He said “you’re in it for the money”.

We didn’t want money.

We didn’t want money. We wanted the pr… someone to stand up and say “yes, these fellas were buggered, these people were ra…”

Little girls. My daughter, oh sorry, my sister. A month old when she was put in to an institution. Eight of us from the one family, dragged by the ISPCC cruelty man. Put in to two cars, brought to the court in Clonmel. Left standing there without food or anything, and the fella in the long black frock and the white collar came along and he put us in to a van.

Not a van, a scut truck, I don’t know what you call it now. And landed us below with two hundred other boys. Two night later I was raped.

How can anyone…

You’re talking about constitution. These people would gladly say “yes” to a constitution to freeze the funds of the religous orders.

This state, this country of ours, would say “yes” to that constitition if you have to change it.

Don’t say you can’t change it.

You’re the governement of this state. You run this state. So for God’s sake stop mealy mouthing. ‘Cause I’m sick of it.

I’m sick of it.

You’re turning me away from voting Fianna Fáil which I have done from the first day that I could vote. Because. And you know me. You know me Mister Minister. You’ve met me on a number of ocassions. So you know what I’m like.

End of transcript

geo321says...

Being from Canada. I envy the Irish government for addressing this. Tens of thousands were molested and/or raped in the catholic school system in Canada. The worst affected were the native Canadians. It was so prolific that it's not a problem of a group of individuals, or of communities,... generations of native Canadians have been affected. It angers me how the Canadian government has continued to view the native canadians to such a low degree.

moodoniasays...

This is pretty much the last nail in the present Irish governments coffin, the present bunch (Fianna Fail as mentioned in the video) pushed through a sweet deal with the religous orders which left those responsible for torture, rape, slavery, suicide, neglect and I dont doubt, murder (theres a hell of a lot of anonymous mass graves linked to these places), paying only €128 million in compensation.

The tax payer however has to pay the other € BILLION and counting.

To put that in context, some nuns recently sold a single property in Dublin and got €105 million for it.

-Edit-

I cant recommend this video enough, its Christine Buckley speaking about her life in Goldenbridge Orphanage in Dublin:
http://www.tv3.ie/shows.php?request=nightlynewswithvincentbrowne&tv3_preview=&video=9205

I cant find an embeddable version, but its very powerful, be warned.

radxsays...

Thanks very much for the info. I hadn't heard about this deal, but found some interesting articles about it in the Irish Times amongst others. Is it true that the bloke who pushed it, the former Minister of Education, did it on his very last day in office? Deeply troubling, if you ask me.

I'd gladly welcome any background articles about these and related religious issues in Ireland, if you have any at hand.

>> ^moodonia:
This is pretty much the last nail in the present Irish governments coffin, the present bunch (Fianna Fail as mentioned in the video) pushed through a sweet deal with the religous orders which left those responsible for torture, rape, slavery, suicide, neglect and I dont doubt, murder (theres a hell of a lot of anonymous mass graves linked to these places), paying only €128 million in compensation.
The tax payer however has to pay the other € BILLION and counting.

pipp3355says...

>> ^radx:
Thanks very much for the info. I hadn't heard about this deal, but found some interesting articles about it in the Irish Times amongst others. Is it true that the bloke who pushed it, the former Minister of Education, did it on his very last day in office? Deeply troubling, if you ask me.
I'd gladly welcome any background articles about these and related religious issues in Ireland, if you have any at hand.
>>


http://www.childabusecommission.ie/


The Commission Report is now available to download.

View the Executive Summary in accessible HTML format.
View the Commission Report in accessible HTML format.

lampishthingsays...

The government won't fall. The religious may have to pay more money in the end but I doubt it'll be much more. Knowing our country and how these things are usually handled here I expect that the government will spend a long time "figuring out how much these organisations can pay". By that time they'll figure the heat has died down enough to let them off lightly again.

This isn't about the money for most people involved though, just as man said. No amount of money will ever take away the memories and the nightmares of the victims. If it was up to me I'd close the orders within the state. If they want to stay here the have to go back to the main church, if they want to stay with their disgraced orders they can leave our abused country. I know it wouldn't solve the problems but it would shame the organisations for what their people did and maybe that little recognition from our leaders would mean something.

Tiocfaidh an lá nua, gan na n-athraí.

EndAllsays...

>> ^geo321:
Being from Canada. I envy the Irish government for addressing this. Tens of thousands were molested and/or raped in the catholic school system in Canada. The worst affected were the native Canadians. It was so prolific that it's not a problem of a group of individuals, or of communities,... generations of native Canadians have been affected. It angers me how the Canadian government has continued to view the native canadians to such a low degree.


Well said brother. Check out below video for more info on the issue described there^

http://www.videosift.com/video/UNREPENTANT-Kevin-Annett-Canada-s-Genocide

poolcleanersays...

>> ^moodonia:
This is pretty much the last nail in the present Irish governments coffin, the present bunch (Fianna Fail as mentioned in the video) pushed through a sweet deal with the religous orders which left those responsible for torture, rape, slavery, suicide, neglect and I dont doubt, murder (theres a hell of a lot of anonymous mass graves linked to these places), paying only €128 million in compensation.
The tax payer however has to pay the other € BILLION and counting.
To put that in context, some nuns recently sold a single property in Dublin and got €105 million for it.
-Edit-
I cant recommend this video enough, its Christine Buckley speaking about her life in Goldenbridge Orphanage in Dublin:
http://www.tv3.ie/shows.php?request=nightlynew
swithvincentbrowne&tv3_preview=&video=9205
I cant find an embeddable version, but its very powerful, be warned.


I just finished watching this video... Near the end a woman who was abused as a child at an institution said they had a dog that would run around biting off pieces of the kids legs and a monkey that would ride around on someone's shoulders masturbating while they ate rabbit feces.

... what the hell!

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